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so I can get a motor thats smogged, put a action plus intake, cam it and it can be a decent street motor?
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If I were you, I wouldn't spend a dime on your 305 and find yourself a 350. There are plenty of them out there. You may even luck out and find a 400 out of a caprice or other large car. Then it's REALLY game on. |
all right I got my headers un attached from the y pipe and the block I got the drivers side out, but I cant get the passanger side out.
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matt one more word of advice.dont start disconecting stuff till u have a new motor to go in.
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To answer your question, you are only partially right, but not 100% For the most part a smog motor is nothing more then a standard short block, flat top piston motor, with a cam designed to reduce emmisions and heads with big chambers to reduce compression, this would relate to a carbed or TBI motor. In the late 80s with fuel injection and TPI the builders were able to better control the Air/Fuel ratios so heads with smaller chambers could be used to increase compression and gain HP, but these heads still retained smaller valves and ports then an aftermarket/high performance head. Putting in a cam and intake will only give you some gains, if you want real gains you'll need to look at the entire engine, and again you need to decide first what you want to end up with before you can begin ...................... Let's start over. What do you want your car to do? Street cruiser/ occasional strip. Street/strip 50/50 Strip with occasional street? AND WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO WITH THE CAR??? :mad: |
street strip, more street then strip
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wayfast if u can find a flattop shortblock my uncle has those bowtie heads/victor jr intake/and holley 750 carb for 400$'s. would deff be a nice street/weekend warrior setup.
u would have to change the valve springs and get a matyching cam to put it all together, |
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well if u want brand new shortblock i have one,well sorta its a bare machined block.with crank and rsized shotpeened rods with arp wavelock bolts.ill get rid of cheap.u would have to buy pistions and the bearings to assemble it.about 200$'s
but u can get a shortblock from anywere,junkyard classifieds etc.though buying a used shortblock i would recomend installing new bearings and rings anyway if the bores check out |
how much for the block? and how much would it cost to get everything installed?
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ill take 500$ for the block/crank/rods,and when u buy the pistions/bearings ill even assemble the shortblock for u
500 may seem much but the block has been cleaned/checked bored and honed .030 over,and painted, and its a 4 bolt main/the crank is perfect 0/0 stock size journals not a mark on them/and the rods have been resized fluxed and shotpeened,and have arp weavelocks installed ill even throwe in the right flywheel/dizzy and other compnents i have laying around to go with it |
Ill tell you what, when My mom gets home I will talk to her about it, and if she says yes, Id want to pay for forged pistons, a cam, and your uncles intake/heads/carb all together and installed so id have the peace of mind its done right.
edit will you still trade for the nitrous? |
ill assemble the whole thing for u if u like,dont forget u will still need a cam/valve springs,and a gasket set.
i will trade for nitrous but cash/nitrous ill knock it down to 250$ with the nitrous kit fair enough? |
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I have the gasket set so really id need to buy pistons cam/valve springs |
the block/crank/rods/+the other odds and ends i have +getting it assembled for free
250 and the nitrous kit and u have a deal if u think thats fair |
the heads and stuff arent mine so i cant cut u a deal on those and for 400$'s ur already getting a deal anda half on them
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Thanks alot, and if you would also be intrested in a action plus intake I wont need it if I get the head/intake/carb |
wayfast before i sell u or assemble anything for u.im gonna need ur parents to sign a waiver,after talking with a few ppl this may be a very bad idea to give somone ur age a motor that can/will make alot of power .god forbid i build this thing for u and crash it,i am liable for building the engine and can be sued by ur parrents
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well how much power will it have, and what numbers would it run in the 1/4th?
thats no problem btw |
depends on a few things,i need to get some info from u before i can match up any parts.im at workj now but ill be oon later tonight to get the info from u so i can start looking stuff up and give u the parts numbers/total cost
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allright I DONT want a ten second motor just yet(doesnt want a cage), Ill take a low 12 or high 11's though ;)
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o yeah, Ill be returning my nitrous and my cam, because I realized how much I paid for the camshaft.. so it would make sence to return them both.
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wayfast the heads were on an old 355 in a 3,400# car and was going high 10's low low 11's,but that was with 11.0-1 cr ratio and a massive cam.
for u i figure it best to keep the cr to 9.0-9.5-1 and a cam around 224/234@50 .520/.510.to let this thing have nice street manners and to keep the power level down.u by no means need forged pistions,alls u have to get are hyperetic, from summit for a whole engine kit flattop or dome pistions/w rings , bearings,oil pump,freeze plugs,full engine gasket set is ;about 300,if the cam dosent go any larger then what i posted above the springs on the heads are fine,and ur looking at 100$'s for a cam. what were the specs on the cam u have now? |
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