So why are you swapping in an LS1 rather than some sweet ass turbocharged V6 engine that makes turd gens run stock LS1 times? :?:

what the heck is a T-ram. sounds like an offering from Dodge

i think its a special dual filter air intake

Yup, different heads/manifolds and slightly bigger/longer rocker arms among other little differences.


It really depends on the driver, they've gone 12.9-13.0 in stock form. That's not saying every one will run 13.0's just like not every LS1 is some 12.8-12.9 factory freak.

Don't hate that a smaller motor with no opti is faster than your car stock for stock...it's OK....your fragile ego can take it.

:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::moon:

I already have come to terms with it, hence, I threw the LS1 out there. Brought out the big guns. :rofl:

ah ok... that thing, but they had special intakes too right?

Isn't it an intake manifold?

Edt: tim is too fast.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

yes, they had a dual filter intake that went across the radiator. SLP offered them for a long time then poof. No more.

T-Ram
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...25/imagew2.jpg

with intake
http://image.highperformancepontiac....awk+engine.jpg

They can pull in some BIG $$$$. I know someone that had 2 of them, not sure if he sold them or not.

so this "creation" just on ebay now lol.... only $1,250

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...Q5fAccessories

They are big money because the molds, plans, and everything else went up in flames at SLP engineer in the early 90's I believe.

Thats kinda .. not the same. :lol:

I've always said it... TTA is the only 3rd gen I would own...

v6 powah!

Why not send one over to Taiwan (Chinese metal is too cheap to last) and have replica's made, it's not NOS, but it also wouldnt cost $1200.
Taiwan is responsible for manufacturing complete muscle car bodies for people to build. I belie ve I saw the factory while taking a train on my second day there. I looked out the window at a parking lot at a factory, and there I saw what looked like a 71 Nova ,and several other muscle car bodies!! I wanted the train to have a malfunction so I could get a closer look.
If only our head port work was alot better from the factory, our cars would have so much more potential without a turbo, but as far as being one of the fastest F-bodies, WOOT!!


FYI, If I remember correctly, wasent the TTA manufactured from the factory with the 3.8T motor, where as the Firehawk was sent to SLP to be transformed, so really the Firehawk was a aftermarket performance car that obtained those numbers right? As to where the TTA made those numbers right outta the factory line.

Hey yea, I'll put that on my list of things I'll wait for aftermarket companies to come out with at a reasonable price. Yep, right under the BBK TPI intake. :rofl:

Yes and no. PAS in California built the motors, shipped them back to GM, they were installed at GM's plants then the car would be shipped to PAS for testing/QC/etc.

IMO, if it wasn't done at a GM factory then it's not factory. Just like the 1969 Crossram is not factory.

Did they build the 3.8T or the Firehawk motor?

I agree. SLP to me is like Shelby, a company that took factory cars, upgraded them, and sold them in the same dealerships as factory cars.

And 69 crossram :drool:

The 3.8...the took the GN motor and made the changes(heads, manifolds, intercooler etc), they built the motor and then sent them back to GM.

However the car was fully assembled at the GM plant.

SLP at one point was a tier 1 supplier to GM. I don't believe they were at the time of the first hawks though.

But was their stuff done before final assembly or after?