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Slow-V6 04-23-2012 06:44 AM
Or you get a lawyer that is hated by the prosecuter and judge.. In this case wouldnt the prosecuter be the cop? All 3 of my reckless cases it was the cop!!

sweetbmxrider 04-23-2012 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow-V6 (Post 826663)
Or you get a lawyer that is hated by the prosecuter and judge.. In this case wouldnt the prosecuter be the cop? All 3 of my reckless cases it was the cop!!
No. Usually its State vs. (Your Name) and the prosecutor acts on the states behalf while the cop would act as the complaining witness if need be.

evilz99 04-23-2012 07:58 AM
^ that

Mike 04-23-2012 08:54 AM
The prosecutor is the attorney for the state (town). The cop that issued the tickets is a witness for the state (town). The judge is there as a moderator between the 2 sides and if you go without an attorney they will most likely side with the prosecutors recommendation.

79T/A 04-23-2012 02:11 PM
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oh ok well then you should be fine all you have to do is talk to the prosecutor there will be a huge line of everyone doing it just wait in line and when you get to him tell him you would like to have it downgraded to a no point violation. then they will all act like they dont give 2 ****s and you go back to the judge they will down grade it and thats the end
I have to disagree with this. With reckless, GET A LAWYER AND bring money with you to court.

fmybody 04-23-2012 02:37 PM
It must depend on the town because when I did not take the plea from the prosecutor, he told me to get a lawyer. So when I got a lawyer I had a separate case, and the judge was the one whom my lawyer spoke to directly.

BonzoHansen 04-23-2012 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fmybody (Post 826817)
It must depend on the town because when I did not take the plea from the prosecutor, he told me to get a lawyer. So when I got a lawyer I had a separate case, and the judge was the one whom my lawyer spoke to directly.
It appears the issue is the reckless charge, and not careless or speeding. Jake posted up before that is a misdemeanor. But he doesn't sit for the bar exam for another few weeks.;)

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 826302)
Reckless driving is a misdemeanor and technically constitutes an arrest on your record. Get a traffic lawyer. They are cheap, and effective. Good luck getting it down to unsafe operation, unless the cop is easy-going.

fmybody 04-23-2012 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fmybody (Post 826647)
If money aint a thang get a lawyer and he will tell you exactly what to do, he may even know the judge and be super friendly with him/her.

If you cant afford that then go and try to plead it yourself, depending on what town you're in they might just automatically plea with you with out even asking you what happened... in which case take the plea and then take a safe driver test or something.

just my .02 I was once facing 8 points at once, got a lawyer and left with 0 points. Had too pay like 500 that night tho just in court fees and stuff. (got help from my dad paying for the lawyer)
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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 826651)
The judge is irrelevant. You get a deal from the prosecutor. The jude will follow their recommendations.
I should have quoted.. this is what i was replying to. best of luck

B4C 04-24-2012 06:42 PM
Got a lawyer today, bye bye pay check.

redsoxsstink 04-24-2012 06:57 PM
my lawyer cost 250 bucks for the whole deal. be prepared to go to court and spend atleast $450, i would bring cash, courts like cash

B4C 04-24-2012 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by redsoxsstink (Post 827066)
my lawyer cost 250 bucks for the whole deal. be prepared to go to court and spend atleast $450, i would bring cash, courts like cash
Mine was $850 but since I had a referral he knocked $350 off the price, but from what ive heard their the best firm to have for the township I got the ticket in.

redsoxsstink 04-24-2012 07:08 PM
hmmm thats weird maybe bc of your record? when i got the ticket i got mail from atleast 5 attorneys in the area and they all seemed reasonable from 250-450$. maybe for you they tacked on extra for your record being tainted?

fmybody 04-25-2012 05:58 PM
deff bring like 500 cash with you... I think the cost of the lawyer depends on charges.. I believe mine was $600

B4C 04-25-2012 08:46 PM
Yes cost of the lawyer was based on the charges, but they are supposedly the best for the township I got the ticket in. Lawyer is already paid ill just have to pay the court fees/surcharges now pending the outcome.

91zconvert 04-25-2012 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by B4C (Post 826079)
Long story short, got a reckless ticket want to plead it down to unsafe operation. How do I go about doing that I've never been to court before. Do I need a lawyer to plead it down? I know I'm going to have to pay some.fines for this.
ask to talk to the prosecuter before you see the judge.if you have a clean record then he should agree,just be prepared to pay a heavier fine.i myself have to go to court for a speeding ticket next month.i asked around and i was told that your allowed 2 unsafe operations in 10 years.:facepalm:

keep me posted on how you make out

fmybody 04-26-2012 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 91zconvert (Post 827340)
ask to talk to the prosecuter before you see the judge.if you have a clean record then he should agree,just be prepared to pay a heavier fine.i myself have to go to court for a speeding ticket next month.i asked around and i was told that your allowed 2 unsafe operations in 10 years.:facepalm:

keep me posted on how you make out
OP does not have a clean record.

Keep us all posted, GOOD LUCK!

Slow-V6 04-27-2012 09:46 AM
If you have a lawyer I wouldnt ask anything. The Lawyer will do all the work..

1_Hot_SOM_WS6 04-27-2012 01:01 PM
I would get a lawyer. Reckless is pretty serious. From my exp, it usually goes hand and hand with a DUI.
As far as the unsafe op's you are allowed 2 in a 5yr time period.
Good luck.

sweetbmxrider 04-28-2012 05:40 PM
They changed the unsafe operation. I believe its now one and done if its not gone all together.

B4C 05-22-2012 01:37 PM
Just figured I would update, unsafe operation $330 no points

WildBillyT 05-22-2012 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by B4C (Post 833229)
Just figured I would update, unsafe operation $330 no points
Looks like it worked out well for you, aside from the $830 cost.

B4C 05-22-2012 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 833230)
Looks like it worked out well for you, aside from the $830 cost.
Yeah

bigz28man 05-22-2012 08:28 PM
if you want some advice from a cop ... here is mine, you can plea not guilty and have the the reckless knocked down to the careless and take the 2 points instead of the 5 that the reckless would give you. If you lawyer up, you more than likely will get the reckless knocked down to 2 counts of unsafe driving. speak with a lawyer about that and ask him/her what your chances are. Also what I look at with a prosecutor and similar cases as this, is what the drivers abstract looks like....if you have a clean history you should be ok. Hope that helps....btw what township were you in?

bigz28man 05-22-2012 08:45 PM
ooops....just caught the tail end of this tread, looks like you went through the process already. Well anyway glad it worked out for you.


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