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Czop418 09-11-2009 07:48 PM

Need Help - 3.4 to LT1 wiring issues
 
Ok Lately ive converted a 3.4 firebird into a lt1. Evrything went smoothly but wiring for the 2 extra cylinders has me stumped. I ran the 5.7 harnes to the 3.4 harness to fire the 2 other injectors. But its still loading up the 7 & 8 cylinders. Please guys help me out. Thanks Rich.

BonzoHansen 09-11-2009 08:00 PM

What did you do? You still have the 3.4 engine harness? I'm confused

LTb1ow 09-11-2009 08:30 PM

Say what?

transmaro93 09-11-2009 09:10 PM

yea whaaa....? did you swap the entire engine harness??

Czop418 09-11-2009 09:37 PM

I combimed a 5.7 engine harness into a 3.4 body harnes. And put in a lt1 ecu. And wired the last 2 cylinders into a hot so it would fire . But now 2 of the cylinders i belive 7 and 8 are loading up any suggestions to get past this ?

BonzoHansen 09-11-2009 09:39 PM

you used relays on injectors?

LTb1ow 09-11-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Czop418 (Post 634964)
I combimed a 5.7 engine harness into a 3.4 body harnes. And put in a lt1 ecu. And wired the last 2 cylinders into a hot so it would fire then put them on a relay. But now 2 of the cylinders i belive 7 and 8 are loading up any suggestions to get past this ?

How about a proper harness?

Relays to control injectors... wow.

Czop418 09-11-2009 09:45 PM

Ok lt1 has 2 connectors going to the body harness and the 3.4 has 1. So i took the 2 combined it into 1 matched all the wires , for the 2nd connector had 1 wire in there that i found on all data to control the secondary injectors so i just added a power to kick them on to start the vehicle.

BonzoHansen 09-11-2009 09:46 PM

electrically what you did is wrong. relays are far too sloppy timing wise


You should have made the lt1 harness more or less stand alone

LTb1ow 09-11-2009 09:48 PM

What year PCM is it?

Czop418 09-11-2009 09:50 PM

94 pcm with a 95 ecm.

Czop418 09-11-2009 09:51 PM

And sorry for the typo we never tied it into a relay thought we did. My buddy did the wiring not me.

LTb1ow 09-11-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Czop418 (Post 634978)
94 pcm with a 95 ecm.

Hmn, what?

BonzoHansen 09-11-2009 09:54 PM

do you mean BCM? you keep talking body harness

Czop418 09-11-2009 09:54 PM

the power control module is stock form the 94 3.4. Then we used a 5.7 95 Engine Control Module.

LTb1ow 09-11-2009 09:55 PM

So how did you do all the pin outs?

Czop418 09-11-2009 09:56 PM

All Data.

BonzoHansen 09-11-2009 09:58 PM

i think that your friend should step away from the wires.

did he try to integrate the two?


All data? you mean he looked at a diagram & started cutting & splicing?

LTb1ow 09-11-2009 09:59 PM

So you are using a LT1 PCM and parts of a 3.4 harness?

Why the relays?

Czop418 09-11-2009 10:01 PM

Becuase have you EVER tried to replace a WHOLE BODY HARNESS. Its Probable atleast a 15 hr plus job. Now dont get me wrong i have the 5.7 harnes and worse case scenario i will put in the lt1 body harness. But im trying to see if theres ANY Possible WAY wiring wise that DONT HAVE TO DO THAT!

LTb1ow 09-11-2009 10:02 PM

I am so confused.

BonzoHansen 09-11-2009 10:03 PM

You don't need to replace a body harness. I guess I would have made the LT1 harness basically a stand alone harness. what does the body harness need to know, rpm? gotta be a way around that.


And yeah, I've rewired some cars.

transmaro93 09-11-2009 10:08 PM

the harnesses on f-bodies really arent that hard to do... its a big job... but... its better to do things right then Frankenstein up your car... i suggest you start ripping stuff apart and change the harnesses properly... way to much important stuff running to and from those harnesses to screw it up... just my .02 take it for what its worth... with that said... what is it with people trying to save a minute and doing stuff 1/2 asked... first the guy cutting holes in his floor and now this... good luck either way man

Czop418 09-11-2009 10:13 PM

Ok Im going this explain this thoroughly and when you understand this Say OK.

Czop418 09-11-2009 10:19 PM

Ok LT1 5.7 engine has 2 body harness conectors.

A Firebird 3.4 Has Has 1 Conector to body and Engine.

I took the 5.7 engine Harness Plugged Everything In But the Car would not start. So I recently found out , that it was not firing on 2 injectors becuase it was a 6 cylinder. So I went to All Data , I traced the wire diagram from the connectors , I found my main Power wire for the other 2 injectors. And I ran it into 1 connector. The car started started ran evenly but now when it gets up tempeature the cylinders load up. There were no cutting or splicing , I popped 2 wires out that was for a serial wire and the other injecor and pinned it into the other connector.


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