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Lt1_8U 09-18-2011 06:27 PM

fact or false
 
today i was watching the speed channel and they were building a 383 chevy and towards the end of the show they were dynoing the motor and they stated that sometimes by switching spark plug wires 4 and 7 you can make more power. has anyone tried doing this or ever heard of this?

thanks

jim

Tru2Chevy 09-18-2011 06:30 PM

Yes, you can - however it's not that simple. You need a 4-7 swap cam as well, and it won't always make more power. Depends a lot on your setup.

- Justin

Lt1_8U 09-18-2011 06:35 PM

ahh okay, i figured it was more involved than just switching wires lol they didnt explain it, they just stated that sometimes it makes more power. they also said they have additives to make your exhaust smell like, cherries, and a whole bunch of stuff haha pretty weird

BonzoHansen 09-18-2011 06:36 PM

fact, but everything I've read/been told it the advantage is really for high revving, high hp engines engines. Happy reading

sweetbmxrider 09-18-2011 06:43 PM

It also loads the mains evenly, supposed to help something somehow?

Lt1_8U 09-18-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 784765)
fact, but everything I've read/been told it the advantage is really for high revving, high hp engines engines. Happy reading

a lot of different information out there lol. supposedly the horsepower tv build picked up 33 hp by doing this

dugeman 09-18-2011 08:04 PM

I have a 4-7 swap on my motor ,it's done thru the cam , then firing order. Doesn't really make any more hp, but smoothes the motor and help cooling . It's a little more involved ,and some motor s will make a few more ponies.

Lt1_8U 09-19-2011 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dugeman (Post 784801)
I have a 4-7 swap on my motor ,it's done thru the cam , then firing order. Doesn't really make any more hp, but smoothes the motor and help cooling . It's a little more involved ,and some motor s will make a few more ponies.

thanks for the input, thats a nice motor you have there8-)

jam01 09-19-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt1_8U (Post 784764)
ahh okay, i figured it was more involved than just switching wires lol they didnt explain it, they just stated that sometimes it makes more power. they also said they have additives to make your exhaust smell like, cherries, and a whole bunch of stuff haha pretty weird

that was for the barrel of alcohol, it has no smell to it thats what the additive does along with adding lubricant to the fuel.

Pampered-Z 09-21-2011 11:36 AM

The SBC 4-7 swap is an old school trick used allot when racing classes had intake/carb restictions. One of the issues with a small plenum volume was that the normal firing order resulted in the air flow in the intake to "reverse direction? between the #1/#8 and #2/#7 cylinders (I think they were the one), but baciscally starving the rear cyclinders. Changing the firing order elinimated the reversal from front to back,and made more power, the swap ( ala ford firing order, now LSx firing order ) does also place less stress on the crank, it is also why they sound different/smoother then a older style SBC.

I don't think those scents are ment for unleaded fuel? In the past they wern't. if you ant a nice smell, put CAM2 in the car!

Blacdout96 09-21-2011 12:12 PM

So if it smoothed the engine, allowed it to prevent it from starving the engine, etc. how come GM didn't do it on production SBC?

91chevywt 09-21-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 785136)
So if it smoothed the engine, allowed it to prevent it from starving the engine, etc. how come GM didn't do it on production SBC?

They did it on the LS1 :shrug:

Lt1_8U 09-21-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pampered-Z (Post 785135)
The SBC 4-7 swap is an old school trick used allot when racing classes had intake/carb restictions. One of the issues with a small plenum volume was that the normal firing order resulted in the air flow in the intake to "reverse direction? between the #1/#8 and #2/#7 cylinders (I think they were the one), but baciscally starving the rear cyclinders. Changing the firing order elinimated the reversal from front to back,and made more power, the swap ( ala ford firing order, now LSx firing order ) does also place less stress on the crank, it is also why they sound different/smoother then a older style SBC.

I don't think those scents are ment for unleaded fuel? In the past they wern't. if you ant a nice smell, put CAM2 in the car!



haha that true, i love that smell! thanks for the info!

Pampered-Z 09-22-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 785136)
So if it smoothed the engine, allowed it to prevent it from starving the engine, etc. how come GM didn't do it on production SBC?

My opinion on that is because they lose the traditional sound and SBC characterizes Sound, torque curve (along with changing all their tooling such). You do give up some low/midrange torque. If you are running a single plane intake or high rise that increases the plenum volume this does cure allot of the starvation issues.

the 4-7 swap isn't going to give you big gains, all else being equal, let use a fairly stock 250-275HP engine you may pick up 10-15HP at best, it not going to make you run like an LS1, an LS1 has allot of other things that allow it to rev the way it does, light reciprocal weight, short stroke, eliminated crank pressure etc.


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