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elle 02-01-2012 03:51 PM

Brakes and Rotors
 
I'm looking to replace my brakes and rotors. Owner before me had someone cut the rotors and i don't like the feel. Should i just get stock replacement or upgrade. The car is street driven very lightly and drag races. Thanks!

WildBillyT 02-01-2012 03:52 PM

What type of car?

elle 02-01-2012 04:31 PM

:facepalm:Sorry, 2002 SS Camaro.

fmybody 02-01-2012 05:10 PM

IMO unless you have mods that give you a substantial amount of power and speed, where you will need substantial stopping power... there is no need to upgrade you brakes from factory. Unless you have bigger wheels or something and your little brakes look silly...

just my two cents... not to mention you could spend the money on other things...

WildBillyT 02-01-2012 05:15 PM

It kind of depends on your budget.

For a street car Brembo blank rotors and a set of Hawk HPS pads work well. If you are flushing the brakes going to braided hoses makes a difference too.

1320B4U 02-01-2012 05:33 PM

^ I agree. Too many people do the engine mods and forget about the brakes. At the very least do powerstop/slot rotors and hawk pads...from summit they aren't that much at all. SS lines will help combat that squishy feeling as well...well worth it. I run the baer street setup on the camaro..worth every penny...going to do the wilwood on the rears soon.

Jersey Mike 02-01-2012 06:16 PM

$165 shipped for rotors and pads. Running them since the summer and no gripes at all. Coming from OEM rotors and Hawk pads, and I like these for a street car.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/sponso...ices-ever.html

elle 02-01-2012 06:51 PM

Thanks for the help. I didn't think anything special would benefit me at this time. That last deal seems pretty sweet! Now i just have to decide if i want to install a line loc...powerbraking sux.

WildBillyT 02-01-2012 07:03 PM

Do it. SLP kits even have prebent lines.

jam01 02-01-2012 08:42 PM

i bought from a guy in pa, sam strano good guy. i replaced all 4 rotors and i bought hawk pads. he also sold me brake fluid, this was a few years ago so what i paid wouldnt matter. dont buy junk rotors, you can buy cheaper but you get cheap that warps easily.

elle 02-02-2012 06:54 AM

I'm going to do some research before i buy. Thanks again.

maroman88 02-03-2012 08:21 AM

i got cross drilled n slotted zinc coated rotors and ceramic pads from an ebay vendor CHEAP for the vette, very happy with them

WildBillyT 02-03-2012 08:25 AM

FYI, if you are worried about "warping" you may want to read up a little bit. Stoptech has some good white papers.

BonzoHansen 02-03-2012 09:33 AM

I've read that. I understand what they say but I've cut too many rotors to totally buy into what they say about it's pad buildup and not warping.

WildBillyT 02-03-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 808281)
I've read that. I understand what they say but I've cut too many rotors to totally buy into what they say about it's pad buildup and not warping.

I've heard it from Raybestos too...

BonzoHansen 02-03-2012 12:54 PM

Does it discuss why over torquing lugs or cheap china rotors ' warp' easier? I forget, I'll have to review.

sweetbmxrider 02-03-2012 01:00 PM

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about but I've definitely dealt with warped rotors before. As scott said, throw a rotor in question on a lathe and see how true it is.

I prefer napa rotors and adaptive one pads. They are a little on the dusty side but quiet as can be.

WildBillyT 02-03-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 808357)
I'm not sure what you guys are talking about but I've definitely dealt with warped rotors before. As scott said, throw a rotor in question on a lathe and see how true it is.

I prefer napa rotors and adaptive one pads. They are a little on the dusty side but quiet as can be.

What I have been led to believe is that the rotor itself does not "warp", that it runs out of true because of uneven pad transfer. If you mic the rotor and it comes out uneven it's not that the rotor itself lost its shape, it's that the pad material did not cross to the rotor evenly.

Stoptech says this, and a dude who used to run the brake dyno at Raybestos (i.e. running a rotor/flywheel up to high rpms and then slamming on the "brakes") said the same.

sweetbmxrider 02-03-2012 01:11 PM

Interesting and it could definitely be a contributing factor.

BonzoHansen 02-03-2012 01:12 PM

6 of this, 1/2 dozen of that. ok i guess it is the 'why' in their eyes. i'll have to read again. end result is still pulsation, noise and rotor resurfacing/replacing.

sweetbmxrider 02-03-2012 01:16 PM

I remember back in the day getting bad rotors out of the box too. Manufacturing/quality control has come some ways I guess.

WildBillyT 02-03-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 808368)
6 of this, 1/2 dozen of that. ok i guess it is the 'why' in their eyes. i'll have to read again. end result is still pulsation, noise and rotor resurfacing/replacing.

Only reason I bring it up is because of the "reasons" given for those symptoms. Buy OK parts house rotors but run **** pads and it's a bad brand of rotor? I guess my point is that I prefer to cheap out on the rotor (if I had to) and run good pads vs good rotors and cheap pads. YMMV I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 808371)
I remember back in the day getting bad rotors out of the box too. Manufacturing/quality control has come some ways I guess.

Yeah, that too. Can't go TOO cheap or the parts QC on the way over isn't good enough.

elle 02-03-2012 02:01 PM

Mine work fine but pulse like a sum bytch.

BonzoHansen 02-03-2012 02:30 PM

^^then they don't work fine lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 808371)
I remember back in the day getting bad rotors out of the box too. Manufacturing/quality control has come some ways I guess.

we got into the habit of resurfacing new rotors when the brand was questionable.

i got a cheap rear rotor for my olds from advance and the casting was bad. all pitted. i got what I paid for

KevinW 02-03-2012 02:49 PM

GM rotors 'warp' because of 2 things. lugs not torqued properly (in sequence to 100ft/lbs) and 'power brakers' :) people who slam on the brakes and keep there foot on the brakes when stopped. The pads heat up rapidly and then transfer the heat to one spot. The proper way to brake is to stop a little short of where you want to be, then let the tires roll a bit to spread the heat out. And stopping smoothly instead of panic stops helps too. since I have been doing that, no pulsating brakes!


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