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townsend 04-26-2012 08:16 PM

random lt1 issue help!
 
hey guys so the mods are now on hold. i need to figure out what is going on with this thing.

it seems as though its randomly running out of fuel/retarding spark. right off idle pulling away from a light and when cruising barely touching the pedal then pushing it down to accelerate 5-10 mph, the motor "chugs" for a second. it only does it when the motor is warm. if i let off then push back down it smooths right out. im kinda at a loss right now considering it has good gas in it and a relatively new msd billet opti. any suggestions will be appreciated.

i have been reading about the ignition module going because of its placement on the drivers side head. anyone else had this start to go and act up?

sweetbmxrider 04-26-2012 09:15 PM

That will usually give you extended cranks, you should space the coil off the head now anyways. I would take some carb cleaner and clean the throttle body blades and opening some. Maybe reset the computer after and see how she runs after it relearns idle etc.

townsend 04-26-2012 10:03 PM

FIXED!! for now...unbelievable how a msd billet opti comes with vacuum hoses that are cheaper than the air hoses for my fishtank. 2nd broken one in a week...time to replace all vacuum hoses since p.o. said they are all original. plus the maf is oily from the air filter.

LTb1ow 04-27-2012 07:25 AM

MSD units do not come with hoses. So, odds are,their stock.

greenformula92 04-27-2012 08:07 AM

yes sir those would be stock hoses. and just as a FYI the ICM usually doesn't give you any warning, you will be driving down the road and all the sudden it will just die. then when the engine cools and the ism cools it will start and you can try to get it home.

townsend 04-27-2012 04:08 PM

yeah just got home with new hoses...they must all be original hoses because they are all cracked..

townsend 04-27-2012 08:07 PM

Well now I have an issue. It's still acting up. Put all new vacuum hoses on and cleaned maf, but it still randomly chugs off idle. I also have a nasty smell coming from underhood almost like really hot metal mixed with rotten eggs. The car has a new highflow cat so I doubt that its burning out already. I'm going to try to get a video so everyone can atleast try to see it when it acts up looking at the tach.

greenformula92 04-27-2012 08:28 PM

any codes?

townsend 04-27-2012 08:30 PM

nope no check engine light nothing....jumped out aldl and got nothing.

townsend 04-27-2012 08:32 PM

uploading video now i apologize for my complaining and your probably going to have to turn up your volume.

greenformula92 04-27-2012 08:32 PM

hmm. the rotten egg thing begs clogged cat but you said it was recently replaced. not saying that cant be it but chances are it isn't. does this only happen when warm, or is it all the time?

townsend 04-27-2012 08:45 PM

now its starting to become all the time cold or hot...it seems to be getting worse. you will see and hear when the video finally uploads to my photobucket. its like its either cutting most spark and missing all over or losing all fuel and missing all over.

townsend 04-27-2012 09:52 PM

here it is listen from 14 seconds on and ignore my talking...if you turn it up you can hear it go "pop pop pop pop" then it smooths out all of a sudden

http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/..._VIDEO0018.jpg

zraffz 04-27-2012 11:28 PM

How long does it take to start when you crank it? What do your plugs look like?

Check your fuel pressure, bust out a can of ether and spray all the vacuum hoses.

greenformula92 04-28-2012 08:31 AM

check you fuel presure, check plugs and wires and look for any and all vac leaks. Whens the last time the fuel filter was changed?

townsend 04-28-2012 09:09 AM

fuel filter is questionable i asked previous owner and he said he didnt know a while maybe so im gonna change that today. also im gonna start checking every plug and wire. vacuum leaks should be nonexistent unless its a gasket mating surface

townsend 04-28-2012 09:10 AM

oh it starts right up when u crank it doesnt take more than 2 or 3 seconds cold

JL8Jeff 04-28-2012 09:20 AM

Does it still have the AIR stuff hooked up and the EVAP stuff? If the EVAP solenoid goes bad (it's on the side of the intake) it might allow air to be sucked into the intake all the time which will act like a vacuum leak. You might need someone to scan it to check the fuel trims.

townsend 04-28-2012 09:30 AM

yes all emissions are in place...i dont know anyone who could scan it..worst part about this is that there are no codes at all and its not everytime you hit the gas, although it is now doing it more and more

zraffz 04-28-2012 10:27 AM

Use a can of ether and get spraying. You'll quickly find out if you have vacuum leaks still.

Next do the fuel filter. Check fuel pressure. Check out your plugs and mist your wires when it's running (at night) to see if it arcs anywhere. Is your MAF damaged by any chance?

townsend 04-28-2012 10:52 AM

not sure if maf is damaged i was super gentle with it and i just cleaned it last night. after reassembly it got worse. your saying to spray the connections of the vacuum lines with ether? all i have is carb cleaner and starting fluid

greenformula92 04-28-2012 12:32 PM

unplug the MAF and see if that changes anything. it will give you a code but the ECM will just use the MAP for fuel trim

townsend 04-28-2012 01:12 PM

ok trying it right now

zraffz 04-28-2012 01:22 PM

Starting fluid = ether. Don't use carb cleaner, I think that would do more bad than good to your lines. Mist it over your vacuum lines and any place you have gaskets preventing vacuum leaks (ex: throttle body) while the vehicle is running. If their is a leak the idle will raise.
It's the fastest and easiest way to find vacuum leaks without owning any special tools.

bigz28man 04-28-2012 02:37 PM

Did you check the fuel pressure at the rails? Had a similar problem a few years ago, found out I had not enough pressure at the rails. Every time I would hit the gas it would fall on its face. Let of the gas and it ran at idle fine. Also check maf sensor as stated above, anyone you know that could swap theirs out to rule that out.


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