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Originally Posted by foff667
You first tout them saying they made 490 in one guys car now lets break this down.
1. Like I said earlier before you even posted in response I said majically everyone who's made good numbers has actually gone to TSP phyically and had their car done there. INCLUDING TERMIN8R's car
but i dont get it... are they doing some sort of dyno tricks over there?
2. You say 35ths car has a beefy drivetrain and thats why he didnt make the power so would you say trmin8r's 9inch isnt beefy?
trmin8rs car was dynoed pre-9 inch, chris' wasnt
3. I also ONLY commented about the TQ numbers so that HP figure means nothing "for a big cam it doesnt make great tq #'s" are my exact words.
i do agree with you here. but this is also true due to the new advancements in cam lobe design. dont forget the MS3 is an old cam.
4. His car is a street car so making big tq #'s would be more gratifying IMHO then making big hp #'s at 6500 rpms
eh, your kinda rejecting the idea of a big cam in any street car then.
5. you also blam 35ths downfall in the heads and claim his LS6 heads are slightly ported
ok Trmin8rs heads flow http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=667&catid=40
100" 72
.200" 149
.300" 205
.400" 249
.500" 283
.600" 303
.625" 306
35ths heads flow http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=649&catid=40
100" 72
.200" 149
.300" 205
.400" 255
.500" 287
.600" 307
.625" 310
those are the heads i got for my car
UH so i guess that argument went out the window as well
What else ya got?
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its possible we are fighting the same arguement. big cams in a street car arent the best way to go. i think there are better cams out there now, but i dont know if its worth replacing at this point.
and paul, to answer your question, heres a few good cams i found that had i not ordered the MS4 right away, i probably would get:
Thunder Racing's TRak cam 231/234 .640/.590 112 LSA
Texas Speed's Torquer 3 cam 231/234 .643"/.598" 111 LSA
Futral's high lift F13 cam 230/232 .642"/.612" 112LSA
just to name a few. LS1s seem to love the new LSK lobes and these cams are all slightly lower duration cams then the MS3 and wil probably make bigger power then the MS3. an even smaller duration cam that makes awesome power is the Thunder Racing 228R but i cant seem to find it on their website. good luck man