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			Sorry guys no video.  Not even a pic.  Just saw a GN and TA (85-86) turn off of Amwell Road in Hillsborough onto Auten Road.  The GN was in front and shot around the corner.  The TA barked the tires, and shot into the left lane trying to pass.  Obviously a race, and during evening commute times too. 
 
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			I went to school with a kid that had an 87 GN. He really messed the motor up somehow, so he got it rebuilt, got a bigger turbo and upgraded the fuel system. He also got it tuned. I can't begin to describe how fast it is. Its rediculous    ! I got a ride in it once, but hat was before he got all the work done to it. One of my friends got to drive it after all the work and he still cant believe how hard it pulled.
 
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			whenever i have the cash i can't find one.  when the cash isn't present, they come crawling out of the woodwork.  like now, i see deals on t-types and GNs everyday.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			never had a gn/t-type and don't want one. only thing cool about those cars is the turbo'ed 3.8. you can keep the crappy generic g-box they came wrapped in. 
i am still waiting for the gn guy at work who's car is "so fast" to step up and run me.  
they are generic cars with generic combo's, they all look the same and all run teh same numbers. they are also not nearly as fast as all of the hype that surrounded them stock. a stock L98 f-body beats a stock gn. 
 
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				never had a gn/t-type and don't want one. only thing cool about those cars is the turbo'ed 3.8. you can keep the crappy generic g-box they came wrapped in. 
i am still waiting for the gn guy at work who's car is "so fast" to step up and run me.  
they are generic cars with generic combo's, they all look the same and all run teh same numbers. they are also not nearly as fast as all of the hype that surrounded them stock. a stock L98 f-body beats a stock gn. 
 
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			IMO the GN's are one of the things that GM really hit the nail on the head with as a whole package. Incredibly fast and while it may be generic, the styling is sexy. There's nothing that can catch the eye like a nice polished up GN anywhere.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			My buddy has had about 5 of them so far, and I appreciate them more and more everytime he gets a new one. The one he has now he has repainted to the Blasberry color changing paint, and it just doesnt feel like a GN. A GN is next on my list, once i drive the crap outta the Z28, and begin to make some money after school. Ill get some pics of my buddies 87 for ya. Later. 
 
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