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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
no.... if you joined ssu or ls1tech in the last 2 years (post IB purchasing tech) than you wouldn't automatically be on both because they didn't sell ssu.
but that is why IB is suing nineball and psj
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Are they claiming that the database is copyrightable material?
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03-22-2009, 02:57 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Prob. I would be pissed if I bought a company and then all the employees and contracts left to go join the same boss but in a different building...
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-22-2009, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Prob. I would be pissed if I bought a company and then all the employees and contracts left to go join the same boss but in a different building...
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Well they are not paid (not employees or IC's) so they are free to go whenever they please, so are the people. If they stooped copying the database to ssu after they sold the site to IB than I think they will fail (IB suit that is). Plus a database is not always copyrightable. 
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03-22-2009, 03:24 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Granted but the members and mods of a site dictate how well the site gets sponsored and in turn makes money.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-22-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Granted but the members and mods of a site dictate how well the site gets sponsored and in turn makes money.
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True, but you can't make them stay. 
Were they suppose to leave after a certain period of time, after the take over? Or did they just decided to leave at the same time?
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03-22-2009, 03:37 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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True, but you can't make them stay.
Were they suppose to leave after a certain period of time, after the take over? Or did they just decided to leave at the same time? |
PSJ and Nineball agreed to stay on for 2 years to help transfer ownership. The 2 years ended last week, thus, all of the departures.
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03-22-2009, 03:53 PM
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Co-Founder / Site Admin
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Internet Brands bought LS1Tech in the spring of 2007, and in their purchase agreement NineBall and ProStockJohn were going to stay on as forum administrators for 2 years, then they would be removed from their administrator positions. When IB bought LS1Tech (along with it's sister sites PerfomanceTrucks.net, Mod Motor Tech, and Modern Hemi) they either didn't want Seat Stays Up, or agreed to let NineBall and PSJ keep that forum for themselves. Before the sale to IB, the user databases of all 5 of these sites were the same. If you registered on one of these sites, your username and password would work on all of them.
What NineBall and PSJ did was take a backup of the userlist from SeatStaysUp that was taken just before the sale to IB, and use it on their new forum, PlanetLSX.
As far as what was written in the contract of the sale, we can only speculate, but if IB didn't have anything in the contract regarding "ownership" of the database in use on SeatStaysUp, I don't think they have any legal grounds to stand on here.
Of course, IB owns close to 100 automotive sites (along with tons of others, including vBulletin), so I would imagine that they have a pretty good contract developed by now.....but I guess we'll wait and see.
- Justin
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03-22-2009, 04:10 PM
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Wow, very ugly indeed.
When AutoForums bought GMI, they were more then happy to leave us be and only support us with technical problems. They have been great so far, have not forced anyone out, or caused any problems. I do remember when we came out with the news, the regular base of people paniced and started losing thier mind, but then settled down.
So far, no problems and in fact have helped us improve our relationship and patch up problems with GM.
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03-22-2009, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsar
Well they are not paid (not employees or IC's) so they are free to go whenever they please, so are the people. If they stooped copying the database to ssu after they sold the site to IB than I think they will fail (IB suit that is). Plus a database is not always copyrightable. |
i believe they were paid + perks and freebies
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03-22-2009, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
i believe they were paid + perks and freebies
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mods were volunteers just like here........they did get special gp's and pricing from some sponsors though
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-22-2009, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
mods were volunteers just like here........they did get special gp's and pricing from some sponsors though
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really? i guess they all bull ****ted pretty good in this one thread
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03-22-2009, 09:25 PM
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the admins were payed, and MAYBE the supermods, not the rest
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-22-2009, 09:26 PM
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yeah i would think that as well
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03-22-2009, 09:28 PM
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as "honorable" as they seem with the mass departure, you think they would have left if they were collecting a paycheck to prune threads once a night? in this economy?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-22-2009, 09:29 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Better money could make you leave, right? 
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-22-2009, 09:30 PM
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thats friggin gay. all those articles, and mod threads, and **** like that hopefully stay there. but people are going to be heading to the new site now. its all such a huge mess.
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03-22-2009, 09:31 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Ohhh boo hoo, LS1 guys can't reset their oil lits now.... sooo sad. 
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-22-2009, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilDougWS6
thats friggin gay. all those articles, and mod threads, and **** like that hopefully stay there. but people are going to be heading to the new site now. its all such a huge mess.
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I honestly don't think a lot of people know about it. All of the good bye threads and other cancer of LS1tech is in the racer's lounge. I didn't know about it until this thread. The new Admin IB Adrian is doing a pretty good job of deleting those good bye threads and it will probably take a while for every1 to figure out what's going on.
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03-22-2009, 09:32 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Ohhh boo hoo, LS1 guys can't reset their oil lits now.... sooo sad. |
Matt...let me know when your lt1 is ready to run.....I'll be waiting 
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
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03-22-2009, 09:34 PM
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google adds suck, the new search function sucks, once people realize **** isnt getting edited or deleted or locked, all kinds of bs threads will start
its the beginning of the end for that site being useful
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So much stupid, so little time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-22-2009, 09:41 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Matt...let me know when your lt1 is ready to run.....I'll be waiting |
Just needs tires.
And in all seriousness, LS1 cars are getting to where LT1 cars where when the LS1 came out, dirt cheap and falling.... Its hey day is over and the tech and knowledge is going to move to the newer platforms along with the sponsers and money....
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-22-2009, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Just needs tires.
And in all seriousness, LS1 cars are getting to where LT1 cars where when the LS1 came out, dirt cheap and falling.... Its hey day is over and the tech and knowledge is going to move to the newer platforms along with the sponsers and money....
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Basically my exact same words when having a conversation with a buddy of mine about todays cars. Well put my friend well put.
And like njnetsfan as soon as my cars done well have to see what that lt1s got.
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03-22-2009, 09:58 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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It has an opti, and its better than you.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-23-2009, 05:32 AM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Just needs tires.
And in all seriousness, LS1 cars are getting to where LT1 cars where when the LS1 came out, dirt cheap and falling.... Its hey day is over and the tech and knowledge is going to move to the newer platforms along with the sponsers and money....
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ehh, unlike the Lt1, the Ls1 was an all new design and all of the newer engines are based off of the LS1. Ls1 is still a very popular motor, yes, there are better engines out there(LS3). But like I said, any Lt1 is free to have a shot at my car. Instead of all these internet jokes, lets see what everyone has.
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
google adds suck, the new search function sucks, once people realize **** isnt getting edited or deleted or locked, all kinds of bs threads will start
its the beginning of the end for that site being useful
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The same search is on Corvette Forum, in fact I think IB bought them too. I was searching for a thread I made selling F45 shocks and it wouldn't come up in search, same with Tech, apparently it takes a few WEEKS for the thread to come up in search. I don't know a damn thing about databases but I would assume it's a setting IB has control of.
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