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			ive had both a H/C/I 5.0 and a 383 LT1, and it goes both ways. in the stang the Fbodys want it, in the Camaro the stangs want it.  its just natural.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				ive had both a H/C/I 5.0 and a 383 LT1, and it goes both ways. in the stang the Fbodys want it, in the Camaro the stangs want it.  its just natural. 
			
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			I once had a guy in an 08 mustang gt weave through large amounts of traffic to get next to me while i was just minding my own business on the way to the north meet. I had previously done a full throttle on ramp entrance that he apparently heard   . He yelled "sounds good man" out his window to me. He fell back behind me and we cruised for a few miles until I got off. The guy was in his 30s. Its mostly young mustang owners that are the problem.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I own both.... And I have gotten more LT/LS1's wanting to ***k with my 4 valve than the other way around.... lol Then again, my LS1's hardly ever see the road, so that could be why lol
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i still dont know if i hate the mustang or mustang owner more? thats a hard decision..... 
 
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			IMO, ford over-engineered the 4.6, and had less then desirable numbers compared to the relativly simple design of the LT/LS block, but it seems that Ford always over-engineered their engines in the 90's. 
I do wish GM followed Ford in creating aluminum heads for the 3.8's, and factory shorty headers, but then again, why should I complain when in the end my engine makes 45 more hp from the factory compared to the 3.8 from Ford, AND we have a strong aftermarket backing. 
 
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				I do wish GM followed Ford in creating aluminum heads for the 3.8's, and factory shorty headers, but then again, why should I complain when in the end my engine makes 45 more hp from the factory compared to the 3.8 from Ford, AND we have a strong aftermarket backing. 
			
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			I remember one thing that my dad once told me after i told him a story about raping some mustangs on the road. "Just because you have all that power, doesnt mean you have to prove it to them everytime"  I took that advice for the most part. i dont go challenging people. usually its the other way around. If i think itll be a good one, i might partake, but 90% of the time when they [hondas, mustangs and other slow cars] roll up next to me and try to race, the thumbs down and laugh
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Yeah, that's why I said the early versions (first style) of our cars got the restrictive ones, as to where that 1994 3.8 mustang I worked on had tubular manifolds on it, and aluminum heads. HOW could 3100,3400, and 3500 series motors get aluminum heads, but the 3.GREAT's got cast, and nothing more until ZZP finally came out with a set..... and yeah we were close on HP, if only GM spent more time on the intake side of the heads to make them flow better, our gas mileage would be so much better ( not that its already not that bad), and we would have a little more power to play with. The downside is the torque, we are making 225ft. lbs, compared to 305ft. lbs, but what do you excpect, ewre V6's. But just like you said, 215? weren't Fox bodies getting 10 more HP from the show room floor stock? 
			
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 Work with what you have! If you want to build your V6 then dont waste the money on aluminum heads just get a stock set of heads for 100.00 or less and port the **** out of them! I also saw that they make Longtube headers now for the V6! When I built mine the only headers out there were the crappy RKsport shorty headers..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				i wana start racing them for there ponys in there grills and put them on my fender kinda like a ww2 fighter plane for everyone i take out lol 
			
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  I had a buddie in Virginia Beach that had a HCI 98 Camaro on a 150 shot and would run cars for there front plates!! He had a big collection of plates..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-25-2010, 11:05 AM
			
			
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			i love messing with mustangs.... they dont bother me in the vette as much as my fbodys
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-25-2010, 02:45 PM
			
			
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				thats actually halarious...  did u drive around with that ? 
			
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 no thank god i didnt. as you can see in the pic, we were in the middle of a fuel pump gasket change. went to open the hatch after school and saw it. lol
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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