2014 Z28

[Mike]

Right but not the price of a midlife crisis cruise night warrior

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Mike

I skimmed right over James posting that rotors are 5k. Just thinking about brake jobs has my head spinning right now....

And I don't think they can cut the carbon ceramic rotors. So it's new ones at every brake job. Maybe multiple times a season if used for intended purpose

Carbon rotors should last more than 100,000 miles even with track use from what I am reading. Most people aren't even keeping high performance cars that long, or using them to that point. Some things I am reading are saying that the rotors should last 200,000

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by LTb1ow

Don't get me wrong, its awesome that GM is making kick ass all around cars like this. I am with nasty, its great that GM is making a sweet ass car like this, but the price tag is still a shocker to me. And def throws into question whether it will actually be used to the full extent of what 75k gets you as far as race car stuff.

IE like what Mike was saying.. if I have a shiny new 75k car I certainly wouldn't wanna get it dinged up etc.

Car pricing is absurd, I will stick to my old style LT1. Even switching to trucks, a nice diesel is in the sky pricing these days. Inflation, gah.

Most track events, you aren't slamming into each other and disintegrating the car on lap 2. There is a lot of engineering and R&D into this car. Its not one they bolted a bunch of parts to, slammed a badge on it, and said buy now! Its not marketed to be sold to the masses as per the article. Its a flagship style car to show what the automaker is capable of and will act as R&D for future developments. See first year car.

Originally Posted by Mike

I skimmed right over James posting that rotors are 5k. Just thinking about brake jobs has my head spinning right now....

And I don't think they can cut the carbon ceramic rotors. So it's new ones at every brake job. Maybe multiple times a season if used for intended purpose

As Bear said, these rotors aren't like your conventional rotors. They use the same style on high end exotics. I believe they are on some vettes as well, most likely the zr1.

[Fast92RS]

The zl1 front rotors are $500 a price and pads are $250 for a set I can't imagine the cost of a brake job on the z28

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Fast92RS

The zl1 front rotors are $500 a price and pads are $250 for a set I can't imagine the cost of a brake job on the z28

Probably be north of $6,000

[Paul Huryk]

Originally Posted by Mike

I skimmed right over James posting that rotors are 5k. Just thinking about brake jobs has my head spinning right now....

And I don't think they can cut the carbon ceramic rotors. So it's new ones at every brake job. Maybe multiple times a season if used for intended purpose

Those rotors don't wear out that quickly. You may get a set to last a full season of racing. I think that if you bed new pads on them first, you can just swap them out with not too many problems.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by Fast92RS

The zl1 front rotors are $500 a price and pads are $250 for a set I can't imagine the cost of a brake job on the z28

And that's conventional cast iron rotors and regular pads.

Carbon Ceramic brakes, on average, can be a 12-15k option on some exotics.
And that's just the brakes. You are forgetting the special forged 19" wheels, the F1-style shocks and a bunch of other Z28-only parts that add to the cost.
The car isn't for everyone, and GM highlighted that several times in both the press conference and in other materials.

If you want a great handling 5th gen, get a 1LE.

[WildBillyT]

Note the presenter.

[BonzoHansen]

The tires slipped on the rim 360*! wow

Yeah, that is Mark Stielow, he was head suspension engineer on that car. He knows his stuff upside down. Same guy who says it would be extremely difficult to build an old car to match a car like this and still maintain the same level of street car' manners and reliability. And he builds that type of 1st gen for fun (ones that outrun new ZL1s and are totally go streetable, incl. A/C), so he knows both platforms well and is true car guy. BTK and I talked to him in November at SEMA about this car.

[Jersey Mike]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Note the presenter.

That's awesome...
ETA on public perception of "American Cars Can't Handle" being put to pasture?

[WildBillyT]

Won't happen in my lifetime.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Jersey Mike

That's awesome...
ETA on public perception of "American Cars Can't Handle" being put to pasture?

well, GM cars can handle.

[sweetbmxrider]

That thing sounded good...

[LTb1ow]

dat sound

Could pull a FFB and just go drop 75k, regret it later.

[Paul Huryk]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Note the presenter.

Came across this earlier today on yahoo. GM is really pushing the "technical competence" of the Z28 parts at a level I have never seen before - a good thing.

The question I have is is there some sort of wheel design or manufacturing problem with these wheels? It's not like the Z28 is stopping from 60mph in 70 feet or something rediculous like that. Might just be an issue of 4,000 lbs of car with a crapload of braking power? I'm curious...

[BigAls87Z28]

3,700lbs, but there are other cars out there that are that heavy, have that much power, and that much brake. I wonder if the media blasting is common elsewhere.
Tires are also crazy sticky, so combined with the massive CC brakes, I can see why it would rotate.

[Fast92RS]

This is one of the reasons why I bought my ZL1. Yes the Z28 was taken to the next level but with both cars GM didn't just bolt on a bunch of parts and sent it out. They took there time with wind tunnel testing, track testing and tons of other work that went into making these cars better than the competition for a great value. IMO I think that what Ford is doing with there mustang. Just basically bolting on more power and claiming they have the most powerful pony car.

[BigAls87Z28]

That's what the internet wants. Big engine, live rear axle, manual trans and with little to no work on anything else.

[LTb1ow]

I just wanna go fast.

[Fast92RS]

"If that wasn’t enough proof that Chevy believes the Z/28 is a true track machine, think about this. General Motors will provide you full warranty service even if you cane your Camaro at the local track. There are essentially no other manufacturers that will cover your engine explosion in turn 6 at VIR."


http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar162637.html

[Fast92RS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnHiDiBNymc

[BonzoHansen]

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...4455.html?vp=1

"we didn't bring any mustang because that would be too easy"

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by Fast92RS

"If that wasn’t enough proof that Chevy believes the Z/28 is a true track machine, think about this. General Motors will provide you full warranty service even if you cane your Camaro at the local track. There are essentially no other manufacturers that will cover your engine explosion in turn 6 at VIR."


http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar162637.html

Might be where some of the price comes from, too.

[Fast92RS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbdhNc_36Kc

[Featherburner]

Up against Big Red!



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