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10-30-2008, 09:12 PM
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GM did make a 3rd Gen M6
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car's i own
1987 Trans Am GTA,5-speed-sold
1988 Firebird Formula-Sold
1999 Dodge Durango SLT-sold
1997 GMC 1500 Sierra 4X4-sold
2001 Dodge Durango R/T
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10-30-2008, 09:16 PM
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nice, that would have been awsome if they did do that.
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87 Trans Am 5.7, Auto, posi disc rear, flowmaster muffler, all org car.
88 Iroc-Z TPI, Cammed 350, Vortex Heads, Magnaflow, T5, 4 Wheel Disc, 3.27 9 Bolt PBR.
91 Trans Am VertTPI 350. 700r4, K&N Air Cone, Ryven Muffler.
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10-30-2008, 09:20 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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ever hear of a 92 Firehawk?
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1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
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10-30-2008, 09:37 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by deadtrend1
ever hear of a 92 Firehawk?
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that was done by SLP not GM
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car's i own
1987 Trans Am GTA,5-speed-sold
1988 Firebird Formula-Sold
1999 Dodge Durango SLT-sold
1997 GMC 1500 Sierra 4X4-sold
2001 Dodge Durango R/T
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10-30-2008, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Wow so they actually thought about putting a manual behind the 5.7... That would made a sick 25th car. 14.3 is definately respectable for a stock gen 1 sbc car...
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94 2wd SBSC Gmt400. 330CI LSX, Fast 102, Trickflow 205s, close ratio nv3500, 4.30/trutrac.
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10-30-2008, 11:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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i want those rims
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1988 camaro- Also scrap
'05 Silverado- You guessed it, scrap
1988 TRX 250R- Ported w/ high compression on 110 octane- Out 60' your LT1
Jersey Shore Street Car Takeover (JSSCT) Founder
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and once i get PHB, what do i ajust it too?
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Seven.
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10-30-2008, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 87GTA
that was done by SLP not GM
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SLP doesn't make transmissions, it was given to them by GM. The GM ZF 6-speed has been around since 89 in the C4.
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10-31-2008, 07:44 AM
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GM made two of those cars. One is owned by GM still to this day and the other Im not sure about it. There was an article about this car in GM High-tech perfomance in the Dec 05 issue
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10-31-2008, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by ar0ck
SLP doesn't make transmissions, it was given to them by GM. The GM ZF 6-speed has been around since 89 in the C4.
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well yeah but they had to go to SLP as a formula automatic and then they converted them to the ZF M6
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I Want to go Fast-Ricky Bobby
car's i own
1987 Trans Am GTA,5-speed-sold
1988 Firebird Formula-Sold
1999 Dodge Durango SLT-sold
1997 GMC 1500 Sierra 4X4-sold
2001 Dodge Durango R/T
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10-31-2008, 03:25 PM
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Now I want to drive my 87...
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10-31-2008, 03:56 PM
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hm, i wonder if many people have swapped those corvette tranny's into their 3rd gens. also is it me, or did it sound a little clunky when they were goign through the gears.
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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10-31-2008, 04:14 PM
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The ZF wasnt made by GM btw.
Yeah, the ZF wasnt that great of a trans compared to the smoother motions and stronger internals of the T-56 and new TR6060.
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10-31-2008, 04:15 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
The ZF wasnt made by GM btw.
Yeah, the ZF wasnt that great of a trans compared to the smoother motions and stronger internals of the T-56 and new TR6060.
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You mean ZF Friedrichshafen AG isn't a subsidiary of GM??
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10-31-2008, 06:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
The ZF wasnt made by GM btw.
Yeah, the ZF wasnt that great of a trans compared to the smoother motions and stronger internals of the T-56 and new TR6060.
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I'm not saying I disagree but I wonder why GM didn't put the T-56 in the Vette until the C5?
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10-31-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Featherburner
I'm not saying I disagree but I wonder why GM didn't put the T-56 in the Vette until the C5?
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Maybe contract issues, or that they watned to just follow out with the C4 adn start new in the C5, plus if it isnt broke dont fix it, seems to of served the C4 well. Then again, why would GM stick to the T5 if it couldnt handle that much torque, and couldnt be set up to run with a 350.
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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10-31-2008, 07:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherburner
I'm not saying I disagree but I wonder why GM didn't put the T-56 in the Vette until the C5?
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T-56 didnt exist.
C5 uses a torque tube, and was designed by a different company for the Corvette. C4 uses a standard trans, and the ZF 6spd was the best at the time. At the time, the German ZF 6spd was in every super car from what I remember. For a 20k Camaro Z28 to use it, it was cool.
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Originally Posted by Blacdout96
Maybe contract issues, or that they watned to just follow out with the C4 adn start new in the C5, plus if it isnt broke dont fix it, seems to of served the C4 well. Then again, why would GM stick to the T5 if it couldnt handle that much torque, and couldnt be set up to run with a 350.
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I dont understand how the T-5 couldnt handle the power of teh L98, but it sat behind the more powerful 305.
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10-31-2008, 08:57 PM
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i want that car
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10-31-2008, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
T-56 didnt exist.
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What I meant was, when the T-56 became available and GM started using them in 93 why didn't they convert the vette to the T-56?
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10-31-2008, 10:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherburner
What I meant was, when the T-56 became available and GM started using them in 93 why didn't they convert the vette to the T-56?
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Cost. If you realy want a good read, find a copy of "All Corvettes Are Red" that talks about the development, death, and rebirth of the C5 program.
C5 was supposed to be out by 93.
Corvette came close to complete death several times durring teh late 80's early 90's.
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10-31-2008, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Cost. If you realy want a good read, find a copy of "All Corvettes Are Red" that talks about the development, death, and rebirth of the C5 program.
C5 was supposed to be out by 93.
Corvette came close to complete death several times durring teh late 80's early 90's.
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I own it and have read it. I would think there would be a savings using one transmission from one supplier but maybe that's just me.
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11-01-2008, 12:09 AM
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Well, the cost to recert. the C4 with a T-56 when most if not all money should have kept going towards C5 is probably why.
Remember that GM just cant plunk any engine or trans combo they have in the parts bin. Everything has to go through the Goverment's seal of approval.
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