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07-17-2016, 12:14 PM
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Location: Hackettstown, NJ
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Power Window fun times.
A couple of days ago, my passenger side power window decided that it only wanted to roll up in 2 inch increments.
Yesterday, I tackled the problem. Thought I'd take it apart first and see if I can fix it before getting new parts for it. After removing the motor and taking the end cap off, the commutator looked pretty dirty. Cleaned it, the motor housing and the brushes, re-lubed the bushings, and soldered the thermal switch shut.
Odd thing is that they're the original motors from 1998 (The rivets were all original/intact with no access holes drilled) and they had the somewhat newer style white end caps.
Also found a rattle that had been driving me crazy; turns out that one of the three rivets that hold the window regulator assembly never went through the metal bracket it's supposed to anchor. Drilled it out and installed a nut and bolt.
Previous owner had installed tweeters on the doors. Well, almost. Only one of them was actually hooked up. Removed them. Found out that the door speakers are not original. Debating on changing out the original radio for one that has bluetooth/audio jack but so far I can't find one that isn't ricer-boy neon. The audio is still better without the add-on tweeters, though.
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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07-17-2016, 03:20 PM
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Power Member/NJFBOA Bookie/Moderator
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Noticed mine are slowing down. I'm right behind you.
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1995 Firebird... Stock-ish.
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Originally Posted by LS1ow
Good. He microwaved my phone 6 years ago, i hope his intake erupts.
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07-17-2016, 03:24 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Just changed my drivers side and have one for the passenger side when it decides to stop working. Didn't find any treasures but 2 weeks later, my cooling fans decided to stop working.
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07-17-2016, 04:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Millstone
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Theres a kit to put an audio jack on the stock radio
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07-17-2016, 07:53 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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This is tech?
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07-17-2016, 08:26 PM
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Power Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
This is tech?
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Well, the windows motors are powered by electricity and part of the car, so yes?
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Originally Posted by DirtyBird
Theres a kit to put an audio jack on the stock radio
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Any links to it? I have one of those FM transmitters and it's a POS.
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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07-17-2016, 09:13 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
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every time I roll my windows up at the track in the staging lanes i pray it closes lmao
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07-18-2016, 02:25 PM
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Resident Camera Guy
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What brand did you go with for replacement? I had used the Pep Boy ones years ago because they come with a warranty. Its definitely on my long list for the Firebird.
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07-18-2016, 03:01 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Not sure if you were asking me but I went AC Delco. I'm not confident in any brand at this point and per a recommendation from Sweetbmxrider, I may calculate the $/up-down for fun (sobs into hands).
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Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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07-18-2016, 05:23 PM
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Power Member
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I took the end cap off the motor, cleaned the brushes and commutator, and re-lubed it. Only modification was to disable the thermal cutoff strip (cleaned both ends then soldered it shut) as when I checked for resistance it was in the 2-3 ohm range. After soldering, was <1 ohm. Window is noticeably quicker and less noisy. Also put a bit of spray white lithium in the window tracks.
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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07-19-2016, 06:28 AM
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Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Bishop
Well, the windows motors are powered by electricity and part of the car, so yes?
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You should have taken pics of the process along the way, would have been a great little write up. Instead, it reads like a journal entry 
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07-19-2016, 08:23 AM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Day 273: Dear diary, my drivers side window motor refuses to lift the window completely. It mocks me. It rained yesterday and the sleeve of my sweatshirt became damp from the drips coming from my leaking t-tops. The honda 2000 in the other lane put up his windows so fast I thought they would surely damage the convertible top. He must have a 100k under those door panels for them to move that fast. One day I will find a window motor that lasts more than a season. I hate my car. I love my car.
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Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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07-19-2016, 08:38 AM
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Power Member
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Ok, so now you have to come here and clean the coffee out of my keyboard.
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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07-19-2016, 09:42 AM
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Meet Coordinator
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07-19-2016, 09:51 AM
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11 Second Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
Day 273: Dear diary, my drivers side window motor refuses to lift the window completely. It mocks me. It rained yesterday and the sleeve of my sweatshirt became damp from the drips coming from my leaking t-tops. The honda 2000 in the other lane put up his windows so fast I thought they would surely damage the convertible top. He must have a 100k under those door panels for them to move that fast. One day I will find a window motor that lasts more than a season. I hate my car. I love my car.
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Mic Drop!
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07-19-2016, 11:08 AM
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Power Member/NJFBOA Bookie/Moderator
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Visualize the lift, Brian. I'm serious You got to listen to me, man.
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1995 Firebird... Stock-ish.
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Originally Posted by LS1ow
Good. He microwaved my phone 6 years ago, i hope his intake erupts.
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07-19-2016, 01:24 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Location: Millstone Township, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Bishop
Ok, so now you have to come here and clean the coffee out of my keyboard.
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I owe you nothing! 
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Originally Posted by jeff wilson
Mic Drop!
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I couldn't resist. Better if read in a solemn voice.
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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike
Visualize the lift, Brian. I'm serious You got to listen to me, man.
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I visualized me changing the motor and being thankful I didn't need to drill anything since it was done years prior.
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97 T/A Ram Air Convt
Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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07-21-2016, 10:48 AM
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11 Second Club
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Im glad my current fbody has crank windows. Way back when i had the 02 ws6 the first window motor left me at 19,000 miles. I feel like i beat the system this time
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