car fell off jack..

[WayFast84]

looks like the jack point just went :lol: and it fell. I was putting a wheel on and it fell..The wheel isnt on or anything its just like trapped on the hub. my Door is dented(pushed) out ward. is their any possible chasis damage? the rear also fell about a good 2 inches on to a jack stand :lol:

[rgaynor85]

lol all can say is next time make sure you have it up correctly so it doesnt fall off again

[WayFast84]

no it was up correctly, god knows it was uop for about 1 week! then I tried to put the tire on, and it wasnt jacked up enough..then I jacked it up some more and then 2 sec later when I went to put the wheel on it fell. the whole jack point is like gone!

[WayFast84]

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[rgaynor85]

well then u got way to much rot time for a new car

[WayFast84]

any ideas how to get it back up again with a $20 jack that takes 80 pumps to get in th air

[Firebird67dude]

Go buy a decent jack so next time it dosent fall. Funny how ur just brushing this off as nothing. What if ur leg was underneath?? Also I likew to move my jack stands up as the car goes up So if it was to give the jack stands are right there.

[WayFast84]

Yeah this is bad. I know some one coulda got real hurt. thanks for the tips on moving the jack stand up as the car goes up! Its not the jack, that jack is pretty damn good considering a aftermarket jack is worse..Im going to see if I can get the jack point fixed or even replaced maybe even add some structure to it, Im going to buy a new floor jack so I can jack the car up so I can put the tire on! Im so thankfull I didnt get hurt!! But Is their any way it coula caused damage? im especially worried about the door being pulled out like that!

[enRo]

Life lesson... my dad has 2 metal rods in each arm because he was under a car that wasnt properly jacked up by his friend and the car fell on him... but instead of laying flat, the first instict is to try and catch it, and he sent both arm bones thru his wrists. What you need to do is not put the jack where the 1 front fender bolt is, cuz thats where it looks like u put it ... if u do that, itll either push your fender in, or pull it out. Jack it up a little past it and ur set.

[Firebird67dude]

I dont know much about that but the jack that i have is huge and i either jack the car up from the rear or the front. So either way i have two wheels of the ground at once. I do this cuz i was watching my neightbor once jack up his Jeep and it fell and broke this foot once he had me drive the Jeep off of it.

[WayFast84]

Tim: Im gonna do that when I get the better jack I might even get ramps for when I dont need to the wheels off

[Firebird67dude]

Tim: Im gonna do that when I get the better jack I might even get ramps for when I dont need to the wheels off

Yea its better than DEATH.

[project89]

get urself a regular floor jack and when u kacl up the front of the car pu tthe jack under the front control arm/right underneath the spring pocket,and when u do the rear just jack up under the center of the rear,just make sure u catch the rear and not just the sway bar/or if u want to only jack up one side jack up from under were the lca mounts to the car.and always use jack stands

[Savage_Messiah]

dude, liek it's been said always jack by the center of the rear, the k-member
(although that's a little risky since it's smooth, but fine as logn as youre aware of what youre doing), or on the frame. The stock jackign locations are fine for the stck jack, but not for any others.

looks liek you messed up your rocker panel.

[GP99GT]

if it was in the air for a week...why didnt you set it down on the jackstands instead of leaving it on the jack

[WayFast84]

jack stands were in the rear, I got a nice ass jack, I got the tire on, looks like ill have to get a new jack for when I need to change a tire, it wont go down..and good news! If I can find the bolts for the y pipe I can do it my self, i just need to know where to put the ot sensor in!

[Tsar]

if it was in the air for a week...why didnt you set it down on the jackstands instead of leaving it on the jack
!common sense...

[WayFast84]

their was one wheel on the car for about 2 weeks.. i dont lack common sence I lack judgement damn it!! lol

[deadtrend1]

I told you in the thread when you spray painted your wheels to buy a floorjack....

[WayFast84]

I did have a floor jack and it sucked asssss.. Idc though cause Im still alive and the worst that happened so far today is a cut from putting the y pipe on!

[Tsar]

can you enlighten me how it can "suck ass" all the floorjacks that's ive seen looked pretty much the same major difference would be in size. most of thetime its not equipments fault its the operator....

[deadtrend1]

can you enlighten me how it can "suck ass" all the floorjacks that's ive seen looked pretty much the same major difference would be in size. most of thetime its not equipments fault its the operator....

mine stopped going up all the way .. i tried adding oil and still nothing, still goes only like 2/3 of the way. but id still use that over a scissor jack

[camaro2you]

i would sujjest in buying a good qualitly jack and some 6 ton jack stands.

[maroman88]

the factory jack points suck and should only be used with the factory jack. i have a nice big floor jack and always jack it up from the frame except on the passenger side front cuz the Y-pipe is to low and the lip and the pinch weld are GONE and both my fenders are pushed out from the lift at the shop, (they now use the frame too)

[trashman01]

matt please dont tell me u left the car with the tire trapped on car without the lug nuts on. btw matt, if ur gonna have a car in hte air for more then a few minutes, always use jack stands to SUPPORT the car, not catch it

[WayFast84]

i know i know.I had the rears on the jack stands!! well I cant open my door up all the way, dented and chipped it, pretty pissed because the paint job is 6 months exzactly!!!

[Lost My License]

I typically don't trust jacks or jack stands so whenever I put a car up in the air I have a minimum of two floor jacks holding it up, at least 4 jack stands and I block the car everywhere possible without being in the way, using nice solid blocks of wood, and on some occasions huge paver stones under tires that arent off.

[Mike]

screw fixing the oem jack point.........weld in subframe connectors........jack points anywhere you want them :)

[WayFast84]

how much do sfc cost? and about how much to be welded in?

[rgaynor85]

just sell your car, by the time u can drive u wont be able to afford gas anyway lol

[Tsar]

how much do sfc cost? and about how much to be welded in?
http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05415/google-mother****er.jpg

[Savage_Messiah]

:funny:

[WayFast84]

http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05415/google-mother****er.jpg
What? :lol:

[84HOtransam]

subframes from spohn were 190ish...check their website...

my install was free..ive got a welder..

if you pick them up id be happy to give you a hand

[Savage_Messiah]

What? :lol:

pulp fiction...

[rgaynor85]

subframes from spohn were 190ish...check their website...

my install was free..ive got a welder..

if you pick them up id be happy to give you a hand

wanna give me a hand welding mine in, the bolts on these suck they always start gettin loose

[84HOtransam]

wanna give me a hand welding mine in, the bolts on these suck they always start gettin loose

id be happy to take a look at it and let you know.. where is are you from..im in clifton and i have a garage in fair lawn

[BMF]

pulp fiction...

His "what" was a joke, hehe.

English mother****er! do you speak it!

[Savage_Messiah]

hm, see, knowing who we're talkign about I asn't sure, so I put the assumption towards the "I have no idea what that is but im gonna laugh because i think it should be funny" category

[LS1Hawk]

Life lesson... my dad has 2 metal rods in each arm because he was under a car that wasnt properly jacked up by his friend and the car fell on him... but instead of laying flat, the first instict is to try and catch it, and he sent both arm bones thru his wrists. What you need to do is not put the jack where the 1 front fender bolt is, cuz thats where it looks like u put it ... if u do that, itll either push your fender in, or pull it out. Jack it up a little past it and ur set.
Agreed. F-bodies have the weakest jack points I've ever seen. When I bought mine, I noticed the driver side front fender was a little pushed out on the top...no big deal, lossened the blot by the windshield and pushed it back. But then the next time I was under my car, I see the bracket from the fender where it bolts to the bracket on the frame is completely bent up, like this...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Johnboy81/Car/HPIM0316.jpg

The "true" jack point is just beyond this bracket. The bracket should be down with the blots pointing toward the pipe. My guess the previous owner jacked it up wrong, or when it was put on a lift it happened.

[camaro2you]

i think just about every fourth gen i ever see has the fender poped out at the bottom like that my passenger side on the 98 was like that.

[GrandmasterCow]

mines like that too

[Tru2Chevy]

My '87 was like that when I got it. It's pretty much fixed now though...

- Justin

[qwikz28]

attach locking pliers to it and pull. you know, 60% of the time, it works everytime

[WayFast84]

attach locking pliers to it and pull. you know, 60% of the time, it works everytime
u serious? vice grips to what?

[camaro2you]

mines like that too

next time ur around remind me ill look at it.

[Savage_Messiah]

u serious? vice grips to what?


the part thats bent :rofl:

[trashman01]

not the fender matt, where it bent and pull it str8(the "jack point")

[WayFast84]

ok so today i went to go torque my collector bolts but I didnt cause I didnt feel safe under the car. wear do I put the jack stands in the front of the vehicle? that wont mess anything up?

[trashman01]

k frame, control arms(under spring pockes, front frame rails, thats bout it.