View Full Version : FBODY FUEL SAVING 20-40% MORE MILEAGE
Firebirdgm2000
05-28-2006, 01:25 AM
yeah I just purchased this.... It's suppost to really help let's give it a shot..... oh i didn't post link here it is http://www.savefuel.ca
people take this way too seriously so I highlighted the important facts
Tru2Chevy
05-28-2006, 01:26 AM
Just purchased what?
And chances are whatever it is won't work at all, or at least not nearly as well as advertised....
- Justin
Brando56894
05-28-2006, 01:30 AM
you wanna know something that helps your gas milage??? tuning :mrgreen: or not using your car, that saves you alotta gas :lol:
Firebirdgm2000
05-28-2006, 01:31 AM
gotta drive the extra few miles a week plus i get paid for mileage, and this has a 30 warranty i dont mind the loss for a possible good gain... here is the link http://www.savefuel.ca
BigAls87Z28
05-28-2006, 01:35 AM
Actualy, at work we are running a big Fuel System Cleaning for 59.77. It is actualy pretty cool stuff, does a great job. So if you have 50k or more miles on your car, come on by before the 29th to any Sears Auto Center and ask them for the Fuel System cleaner on sale.
Savage_Messiah
05-28-2006, 05:42 AM
Actualy, at work we are running a big Fuel System Cleaning for 59.77. It is actualy pretty cool stuff, does a great job. So if you have 50k miles on your car, come on by before the 29th to any Sears Auto Center and ask them for the Fuel System cleaner on sale.
damn salesmen!
what if you have 49k? 51k? 151k? 176k?
bad64chevelle
05-28-2006, 06:26 AM
you just wasted your money!!!
WayFast84
05-28-2006, 09:46 AM
you just wasted your money!!!
:werd: :owned:
al tell me more about this fuel cleaning thing!
BigAls87Z28
05-28-2006, 09:58 AM
No really, it does a great job. I was always questioned it untill we went to a class for it for training. They brought in one of the managers car, some old F150 and ran it through the cleaning. Pieces of carbon were coming out of the tail pipe, as well as a lot of smoke. My store manager had it doen to his car and he really has noticed some improvment in performance. My brother had it done to his car, my dad is coming into day to get it done, and Ill probably take my mom's car to have it done to hers.
qwikz28
05-28-2006, 03:08 PM
how do they plan on seperating the hydrogen from the tap water? how do they account for the impurities? im not even gonna bother reading that. if gas mileage is that much of a concern get a smaller car. that is the only reasonable solution until alternative fuels come about. i averaged 24 to my last tank which is incredible for my heavy ass foot
Actualy, at work we are running a big Fuel System Cleaning for 59.77. It is actualy pretty cool stuff, does a great job. So if you have 50k or more miles on your car, come on by before the 29th to any Sears Auto Center and ask them for the Fuel System cleaner on sale.
:stupid:
and thats a REALLY good price. We charge $121 for the same thing at my dealership. I did it to my jeep which has 166K on it and I noticed a pretty big difference in mileage and power.
GP99GT
05-28-2006, 04:02 PM
wow
just wow
hey next time anyone decides to waste money on something like that - tornado fuel saver perhaps - just wire me the money ill PM you my bank account info...
p.s. in return ill mail u brick which you put under your gas pedal which will dramatically reduce your gas consumption.
deadtrend1
05-28-2006, 05:28 PM
hey next time anyone decides to waste money on something like that - tornado fuel saver perhaps - just wire me the money ill PM you my bank account info...
p.s. in return ill mail u brick which you put under your gas pedal which will dramatically reduce your gas consumption.
it was a piece of wood. Im trying to find a archived "gasinator" add. Last time i see one was on ebay
it was a piece of wood. Im trying to find a archived "gasinator" add. Last time i see one was on ebay
i improved their design...
JL8Jeff
05-29-2006, 10:27 AM
Some form of a top end cleaner like Seafoam or GM TEC will help clean out carbon deposits and make the engine run smoother and will allow you to pick up some power and mpg. Sounds like that is what Sears is offering. But a nice, hot ignition system will also clear out that crap and stop it from reforming. The biggest danger is if there is too much carbon that gets blown out and could clog your cat or mess up your O2 sensors. As for the hydrogen thing, I'll wait until an unbiased person tests it out. With the mineral content in our water I can't see that working too well for very long.
BigAls87Z28
05-29-2006, 10:55 AM
Actualy, Mythbusters did the hydrogen thing, and it didnt work at all. It was on last week. They actualy did pour pure hydrogen from a tank into a carb of a 80's Cutlas, and it did run, but the hyrdogen out of water thing did not produce enough gas to run a car.
Our Fuel System Cleaner is a 3 step process. One for the gas tank, one for the Oil, and one for the Intake charge.
foff667
05-29-2006, 03:32 PM
wow
just wow
well put...buys a v6 fbody dumps in extra weight for the stereo then wants mpg? comon man think about this $260.90 for 20% fuel savings.
If you drive say 1000 miles a month at 25 mpg currently=40 gallons of gas per month at $2.80=$112.00
Lets say with your hydrogen thingamabobber you drive that same 1000 miles at 30mpg which is roughly a 20% increase=33.33gal per month X $2.80=$93.32 which is a savings of a whopping $18.68 per month of savings. But lets say you went another route & put that $260.90 into an ing direct savings account at 4.15% interest you'd have $271.73 in 12 months whereas the hydropooper would've only recouped $224.16 of that $260.90 initial investment in 12 months. In the end it would probably take you close to 15 months to get back your initial investment plus the interest you could've made(from only a simple savings account) I wont even go into what you could've made through an IRA or common stock.
BigAls87Z28
05-29-2006, 04:22 PM
Today is the last day of the sale. Then it goes back to normal price of 79.99. Hurry up, most stores close at 8!!
Squirrel
05-29-2006, 05:00 PM
Our Fuel System Cleaner is a 3 step process. One for the gas tank, one for the Oil, and one for the Intake charge.
3 cans of seafoam = $22.23 :p
BigAls87Z28
05-29-2006, 08:44 PM
Well, knock yourself out then big fella.
WayFast84
05-29-2006, 08:59 PM
If you honestly cared so much about gas milage youd be driving a civic or at least a v6..o wait...
TransAm619
05-29-2006, 10:31 PM
matt, i really wouldnt talk since im guessing his "slow v6" could spank ur car when u drive it... o wait... u dont
matt, i really wouldnt talk since im guessing his "slow v6" could spank ur car when u drive it... o wait... u dont
BWAHAHA :owned: again...
Firebirdgm2000
05-29-2006, 11:26 PM
funny some of you guys are so adamant on dismissing hydro-gen so quickly but you failed to read up on this in other forums. I've heard the results are flawless, knowing full well it works and picks up more horsepower..... It works by electrostatic charges into the intake hence (hydrogen) extracting those molecules from tap water and baking soda (a very light amount of it)..... Keeps the carbon down in the engine and runs cleaner, how can that be beat..... I'm only getting 20mpg right now anyways. I've also done the seafoam thing (really only works on higher mileage cars)... no big difference if you dont have anymore than 60k miles
Squirrel
05-29-2006, 11:57 PM
they give you a free one/gettin some to do all this plugging? lol
GP99GT
05-30-2006, 12:20 AM
shouldve spent that money on some more false badging
shouldve spent that money on some more false badging
:kneeslap:
Dark_Knight7096
05-30-2006, 01:06 AM
Hey, who knows, maybe it'll work. Watch him come back and pwn everyone with 35% fuel economy or something. Me, I'd rather take that 250 bux and put it towards a set of 1.84 or 1.9 rockers and some springs, but that's just me.
Savage_Messiah
05-30-2006, 01:17 AM
If anyone's interested, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas that I inherited and may be willing to sell.
Firebirdgm2000
05-30-2006, 01:22 AM
spend it now save for later :-)
Hey, who knows, maybe it'll work. Watch him come back and pwn everyone with 35% fuel economy or something. Me, I'd rather take that 250 bux and put it towards a set of 1.84 or 1.9 rockers and some springs, but that's just me.
Dark_Knight7096
05-30-2006, 01:31 AM
Kansas? No way man, Arizona, that's where it's at and then my buddy Lex is going to launch a few nukes and well, we all know how valuable my land will be then!
Dark_Knight7096
05-30-2006, 01:31 AM
spend it now save for later :-)
Actually I have no problem doing that, hence the reason i've been wanting those parts for my car for the past 5 months, lol.
project89
05-30-2006, 01:32 AM
Actualy, at work we are running a big Fuel System Cleaning for 59.77. It is actualy pretty cool stuff, does a great job. So if you have 50k or more miles on your car, come on by before the 29th to any Sears Auto Center and ask them for the Fuel System cleaner on sale.
we had a system that u hooked into the fuel line at the shop was a snapon system,it ran the solevent/gas threw the rail for 30 mins then u ran the car on the mixture for 30 mins.we had ppl that swore it worked great.i myself never tried it out though,was to much of a bitch to hook to a carbed car.
Brando56894
05-30-2006, 04:21 AM
3 cans of seafoam = $22.23 :p
:stupid:
WayFast84
05-30-2006, 08:00 AM
we had a system that u hooked into the fuel line at the shop was a snapon system,it ran the solevent/gas threw the rail for 30 mins then u ran the car on the mixture for 30 mins.we had ppl that swore it worked great.i myself never tried it out though,was to much of a bitch to hook to a carbed car.
How much? 8) :rofl:
JL8Jeff
05-30-2006, 08:21 AM
we had a system that u hooked into the fuel line at the shop was a snapon system,it ran the solevent/gas threw the rail for 30 mins then u ran the car on the mixture for 30 mins.we had ppl that swore it worked great.i myself never tried it out though,was to much of a bitch to hook to a carbed car.
I watched them do that on the old Shadetree Mechanic show. It was some Ford that had all kinds of carbon buildup and was pinging like crazy. It cleaned it out pretty good and the pinging went away.
Firebirdgm2000
05-30-2006, 10:58 PM
"It will (*spank*) his TA".... I'd personally like to circuit him so I can watch my $2,000 in suspension components come in very handy and his car smoking nicely against some wall
matt, i really wouldnt talk since im guessing his "slow v6" could spank ur car when u drive it... o wait... u dont
qwikz28
05-30-2006, 11:14 PM
funny some of you guys are so adamant on dismissing hydro-gen so quickly but you failed to read up on this in other forums. I've heard the results are flawless, knowing full well it works and picks up more horsepower..... It works by electrostatic charges into the intake hence (hydrogen) extracting those molecules from tap water and baking soda (a very light amount of it)..... Keeps the carbon down in the engine and runs cleaner, how can that be beat..... I'm only getting 20mpg right now anyways. I've also done the seafoam thing (really only works on higher mileage cars)... no big difference if you dont have anymore than 60k miles
what does static repulsion have anything to do with this? there is no way to "extract" molecules without another subtance to interact with it, and that must create enough energy to reach its activation energy and that would probably require more energy then it produces. and that is also a pain in the ass. scientifically it is completely crappy
TransAm619
05-30-2006, 11:16 PM
scientifically speaking of course but ive never felt more retarded than after reading this thread
Firebirdgm2000
05-30-2006, 11:20 PM
but what your saying is scientifically your theory
what does static repulsion have anything to do with this? there is no way to "extract" molecules without another subtance to interact with it, and that must create enough energy to reach its activation energy and that would probably require more energy then it produces. and that is also a pain in the ass. scientifically it is completely crappy
qwikz28
05-30-2006, 11:23 PM
but what your saying is scientifically your theory
what im saying is called chemistry
Firebirdgm2000
05-30-2006, 11:26 PM
well chemistry doesn't say there might be more than what's to the eye
what im saying is called chemistry
qwikz28
05-30-2006, 11:31 PM
well chemistry doesn't say there might be more than what's to the eye
so we'll just defy the laws of science for the sake of gas mileage... im convinced. a matter-of-fact, i'll take 2
BigAls87Z28
05-30-2006, 11:41 PM
You need more energy to seperate water into hydrogen and oxygen then it would take to power the car. Such a waste.
If you wana save the world, get a Hyrbid.
Brando56894
05-31-2006, 01:42 AM
:werd:
Savage_Messiah
05-31-2006, 02:34 AM
but what your saying is scientifically your theory
I see no theories (only fact) besides your static repulsion will separate molecules BS
Dark_Knight7096
05-31-2006, 09:05 AM
Actually, I remember doing an expirement (sp?) in 9th grade where we took some plain old tap water and some sort of catalyst and we passed a small current through it to get hydrogen and oxygen. That was 9 years ago and using very rudimentary equipment. I'm sure its more than possible, there's just one thing I don't understand. How does it save you gas? It says it will burn the hydrogen (VERY volitile and exothermic fuel, hindenburg anyone?) and save your gasoline, but how? The car does not know you are adding the extra fuel to the system, is there a parameter in the computer for added hydrogen? Also too, the resultant material of the combustion (sp?) of hydrogen (read: the OXYGENATION of hydrogen) is water.
Those are just a few reasons why I don't get it, but it wouldn't surprise me if I was wrong, it happens all the time. If you get it and it works well be sure to post up, I'm sure a lot of people would like to know.
WayFast84
05-31-2006, 05:32 PM
"It will (*spank*) his TA".... I'd personally like to circuit him so I can watch my $2,000 in suspension components come in very handy and his car smoking nicely against some wall
TA?? I dont have a TA, I dont have any Trans am badges on my firebird. Nor will I ever. why not? because im not a ****ing idiot, unlike most people think around here, and as for a "circuit" my cars not going to built for that, Im going to build it for street strip, and right now Im saving up for a 350, so Id watch what you say.
edit, if you want to save money, convert your FIREBIRD to ethonal and start growing ur own corn.
Savage_Messiah
05-31-2006, 05:39 PM
TA?? I dont have a TA, I dont have any Trans am badges on my firebird. Nor will I ever. why not? because im not a ****ing idiot, unlike most people think around here, and as for a "circuit" my cars not going to built for that, Im going to build it for street strip, and right now Im saving up for a 350, so Id watch what you say.
edit, if you want to save money, convert your FIREBIRD to ethonal and start growing ur own corn.
HOLY ****!!!
i NEVER in a million years thought i'd say this when quoting Matt... but....
:owned:
how can that be beat..... I'm only getting 20mpg right now anyways.
your car has bigger problems than needing a fuel system cleaner if your 3.8 is getting less mpg than my ls1, and similar mpg to my 5000 pound ls2 truck.......
but do whatever gay mods float your boat
Frosty
05-31-2006, 07:09 PM
yeah I just purchased this.... It's suppost to really help let's give it a shot..... oh i didn't post link here it is http://www.savefuel.ca
Are you going to add that to your cardomain "mod" list and list the price as well? :rofl:
Current Mods Include:
Dash scanner bar *tossed and broken $15.......good mod
2 2 way speakers and tweeters in door $80
Kitt Light ^currently uninstalled $40 ....good mod
Full Blown Alpine Sound System 1 10"Sub 8 Custom Speakers $1400 do you have cheap speakers like stated above or a decent system like stated here?
B&B Quad Tip Exhaust, Random Tech Cat (Shop Install) $1800...thats quite a bit of money for a cat back
SLP Custom Cold Air Intake $140 if slp made it its not custom
Whipser Lid Package deal/K&N Air Filter $180
BMR Performace Panhard Bars/Sway Bars $500 our cars only have one panhard bar
6 NGK TR6-IX Iridium Spark Plugs $45 ..might be part of your mileage problem, tr6 is a nitrous plug
SLP Camaro/Firebird Traction Control Reversal Module $70...coulda tuned it out
O2 Simulator $50...o2 sim AND cats?
Firehawk Firestone Indy 500 Tires $600 tires are not a mod
Trans Am Badges (Door) $60....poser
Trans Am Spoiler/Hatch $500...see above
Trans Am Bumper $150...see above
Trans Am Rear End (Complete Calipers and Rotors) $250...decent mod till it breaks
Leather Interior Door Panels/Seats $900...decent mod
Lumbar Support Hoses/Connections $40...should be on the same line as seats stop trying to make your list longer than it is
B-Quiet Extreme Sound Deadner 100SQ FT $100 should be on the system line see above
2 10" Alpine S type subs $160 just making your list long you putz
SubThump Rear Amp Rack 2 Stealth Enclosures $285 see above
Trans Am Hatch Struts $23 ooooo ahhhhh
Key Fobs (2) $25 see above
Hatch Motor $25 not a mod
HVAC Overlay (Flames/Ice) $30 admitting your a flamer... priceless
Sequental Tail Lights (*Needed 2 New Socket Housings) $90 see above
Brass Headlight Gear Kit $60 best mod on your list
Ram Air Hood (Fully Functional With Cold Air Kit) $1300 is it cold air or ram air?
Frosty
05-31-2006, 08:56 PM
Holy owned Batman!
Savage_Messiah
06-01-2006, 01:30 AM
:rofl: uber-ownage... AMAZING!!! hahahaha
Brando56894
06-01-2006, 02:42 AM
wow, you guys make me laugh :lol:
GP99GT
06-01-2006, 08:43 AM
your car has bigger problems than needing a fuel system cleaner if your 3.8 is getting less mpg than my ls1, and similar mpg to my 5000 pound ls2 truck.......
my GP only gets like 20....mixed city/highway
foff667
06-01-2006, 08:52 AM
my gtp gets better mileage then you with a bad o2 sensor(gp/gtp's only have one front o2 sensor stock) :lol:
GP99GT
06-01-2006, 10:08 AM
your gtp has 2.93 gears as compared to my 3.29 so if you stay out of boost then of course you get better mileage :p
79CamaroDiva
06-01-2006, 10:18 AM
:bow: to mike :rofl:
bad64chevelle
06-01-2006, 01:05 PM
"It will (*spank*) his TA".... I'd personally like to circuit him so I can watch my $2,000 in suspension components come in very handy and his car smoking nicely against some wall
Whoa whoa whoa...youre going to take a V6 Automatic with almost NO performance mods that has had about 300 lbs of BS mods onto it around a road course?!?!?!? i know im late on this but damn! okay okay if it was a stick shift yeah it would be a little bit better, but from my recollection thats an Auto. Hell, my camaro is an automatic and I wouldnt take it to a road course, and it has an 8cylinder. With all the money you have in Trans Am badges you coulda saved it up for a 8cylinder 6speed car with money left over to buy a honda as a daily driver!
Firebirdgm2000
06-03-2006, 10:46 PM
To say the least, when your car dont run dont shoot your mouth off, none the less
unlike most people think around here, and as for a "circuit" my cars not going to built for that, Im going to build it for street strip, and right now Im saving up for a 350, so Id watch what you say.
try saying i've got it done
by the way no ownage cuz there wasn't any
To say the least, when your car dont run dont shoot your mouth off, none the less
by the way no ownage cuz there wasn't any
both my cars run, and both will beat you in a quarter mile, auto-x, or road course........and by both yes i mean a bone stock suv
Squirrel
06-04-2006, 12:20 AM
To say the least, when your car dont run dont shoot your mouth off, none the less
try saying i've got it done
by the way no ownage cuz there wasn't any
negative ghost rider...you got owned bad, and this is coming from one of the better owners on the board....my car runs, wanna play?:naughty:
WayFast84
06-04-2006, 01:09 AM
Whoa whoa whoa...youre going to take a V6 Automatic with almost NO performance mods that has had about 300 lbs of BS mods onto it around a road course?!?!?!? i know im late on this but damn! okay okay if it was a stick shift yeah it would be a little bit better, but from my recollection thats an Auto. Hell, my camaro is an automatic and I wouldnt take it to a road course, and it has an 8cylinder. With all the money you have in Trans Am badges you coulda saved it up for a 8cylinder 6speed car with money left over to buy a honda as a daily driver!
+ heavy ass ground effects
WayFast84
06-04-2006, 01:11 AM
To say the least, when your car dont run dont shoot your mouth off, none the less
try saying i've got it done
by the way no ownage cuz there wasn't any my car runs, and if I had the same amount of money that you put into your FIREBIRD, I WOULD be runing 11's
$9818 PLUS what you payed for your car! allow me to edit my statement above
I would be runing 11's N/A!
I could have a ls1 swap
I could have a 98+ formula or trans am
what a waste of money!!
Frosty
06-04-2006, 09:46 AM
both my cars run, and both will beat you in a quarter mile, auto-x, or road course........and by both yes i mean a bone stock suv
lol nice
I'll run him in on the Auto-X course too, I have most of the same suspension stuff too.
this thread is funny! :lol: ohh and aparantly my LT1 gets good gas mileage. at least the same as v6 :lol:
qwikz28
06-04-2006, 02:55 PM
3.8 V6s are known for getting crap gas mileage in comparison to other V6s.
trashman01
06-04-2006, 03:16 PM
"It will (*spank*) his TA".... I'd personally like to circuit him so I can watch my $2,000 in suspension components come in very handy and his car smoking nicely against some wall
alright lets go, ur 4th gen vs my 3rd gen at lime rock, i spent 200$ on my suspension, just rear LCAs, relocation bracket, panhard bar. oh i even have a one wheel wonder, lets go right now
WayFast84
06-04-2006, 03:41 PM
wow! do I have people standing up for me? or do they just not like firebirdgm.?
wow! do I have people standing up for me? or do they just not like firebirdgm.?
they just dont like him, u are still annoying as ****.
WayFast84
06-04-2006, 03:57 PM
they just dont like him, u are still annoying as ****.
thought so
thought so
dont, the process might damage your fragile brain...
Savage_Messiah
06-04-2006, 05:09 PM
:rofl: @ this whole thread
qwikz28
06-04-2006, 05:12 PM
internet balls at its finest.
internet balls at its finest.
are u refering to anyone in particular?
qwikz28
06-04-2006, 05:39 PM
are u refering to anyone in particular?
yes everyone whos claiming their car is fastest or handles the best. or while we're at it challenges a high school kid w/o a liscence to race. but i'm not complaining. keep it coming this crap is funny. :lol:
Savage_Messiah
06-04-2006, 05:55 PM
I think we need some roflcopter in here
NJSPEEDER
06-04-2006, 05:55 PM
3.8 V6s are known for getting crap gas mileage in comparison to other V6s.
that is because many of the cars they are put in are a bit heavy. 4th gens easily weigh 3500lbs, getting that rolling to freeway speed with only 200hp and not enough gear is going to leave your foot in the throttle a long time.
GP/GTP's are not much better, many of which curb at 3300+ and are stuck with much less efficiant drivetrains and commonly even less final drive gearing.
yes everyone whos claiming their car is fastest or handles the best. or while we're at it challenges a high school kid w/o a liscence to race. but i'm not complaining. keep it coming this crap is funny. :lol:
well high school kid is just annoying and should /himself. i dont care about the other crap
trashman01
06-04-2006, 05:59 PM
im not saying my car is better, ill just prove that suspension mods doesnt matter, its the driver
qwikz28
06-04-2006, 07:49 PM
im not saying my car is better, ill just prove that suspension mods doesnt matter, its the driver
QFT!!!!! thank you o ye of great knowledge!
trashman01
06-04-2006, 08:55 PM
QFT!!!!! thank you o ye of great knowledge!
im only 19:mrgreen: but i beat a corvette thru some twisties cuz the driver was a ****ing tard:scratch: the driver matters, not the car
WayFast84
06-04-2006, 08:57 PM
heres my challange.
need4speed most wanted tournament! :rofl:
no more tuff talk :mrgreen:
GP99GT
06-04-2006, 09:18 PM
GP/GTP's are not much better, many of which curb at 3300+ and are stuck with much less efficiant drivetrains and commonly even less final drive gearing.
track weight with me in the car, no seats except drivers...3380. which means about 3230 without me...which isnt too bad i guess but yeah 3.8s suck for gas mileage
Dark_Knight7096
06-04-2006, 10:09 PM
heres my challange.
need4speed most wanted tournament! :rofl:
no more tuff talk :mrgreen:
You really think you got a snowballs chance in hell against my car? It's got a V-TAK man, you just don't see that ***** anywhere man. Well, IDK, you know my cam's not cammin right, and I think my computer's got a virus. How much does your car weigh? Oh, oh, you are fu*ked man, power to weight ratio says, you're fu*ked.
And I don't doubt the drivers have a lot to do with the cars, I've kept up with a Vette in a Mustang GT and kept up with a Mustang Cobra in my Marauder, but if you take two drivers with similar levels of skill and put one behind the wheel of a Vette and another behind the wheel of said Mustang GT, i'd be willing to bet the Vette would come out ahead.
trashman01
06-04-2006, 10:29 PM
your right the two drivers with similar skills the vette would beat the gt, but it still comes down to the DRIVER not the car. i took my friends GTI into the 14s. his best 60ft was a 2.7, mine on that car was a 2.2 which aint bad for a 98? GTI VR6 M5, esp with ****** good year RSAs
Dark_Knight7096
06-04-2006, 10:35 PM
your right the two drivers with similar skills the vette would beat the gt, but it still comes down to the DRIVER not the car. i took my friends GTI into the 14s. his best 60ft was a 2.7, mine on that car was a 2.2 which aint bad for a 98? GTI VR6 M5, esp with ****** good year RSAs
I'm not saying that the driver is not important, but what you are saying, in essence, is that the potential of the car means absolutely nothing compared to the skill of the driver, you're just taking the car's abilities completely out of the situation and you can't really do that. I'm saying theres an interaction effect between the two, you are saying the only important factor is driver skill. If this is not what you're saying, I apologize, but that is certainly how it looks to me.
trashman01
06-04-2006, 10:52 PM
the car plays a part but how can a car be put to the limit with a weak(lack of a better term) driver? like that corvette, it was a mid to late 90s C5, it shoulda spanked me up the hill thru the corners but i actually was on his ass the whole way. but had there been a more skilled driver, i woulda gotten dusted.
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 07:32 PM
first off who's 88ta5speed another wayfast84 we really dont need more 15 year olds challenging people to grand turismo while wayfast challenges in Need For Speed... anyways to the complete moron who first said something here we go...
I would be a gay moron
I could have been splattered on my mothers face
i'm a waste of semen and should have been a bed stain!!
and quote... douch bag you have no money your a waste of life plus your car looks like crap, you wont get anywhere with your knowledge and you can't even use a wrench stay in school idiot. Quit posting on forums that might actually help someone rather than talk trash on this site providing no useful info for anyone...
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 07:43 PM
who cares? contribute something useful you lack fundamentals..... and your vibrator was on way too low last night you could get some extra pleasure with wayfast and 88ta5speed you 3 have fun in the back of that SUV....... back to fuel savings
both my cars run, and both will beat you in a quarter mile, auto-x, or road course........and by both yes i mean a bone stock suv
Frosty
06-05-2006, 07:53 PM
internet balls at its finest.
Run me bitch! ;):D
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 07:59 PM
i love the way faketransamgm2000 resorts to name calling when he cant come up with anything witty to say
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 08:01 PM
As for you why dont you get a job and buy an Fbody rather than wishing you even had a faketransam
i love the way faketransamgm2000 resorts to name calling when he cant come up with anything witty to say
WayFast84
06-05-2006, 08:02 PM
first off who's 88ta5speed another wayfast84 we really dont need more 15 year olds challenging people to grand turismo while wayfast challenges in Need For Speed... anyways to the complete moron who first said something here we go...
and quote... douch bag you have no money your a waste of life plus your car looks like crap, you wont get anywhere with your knowledge and you can't even use a wrench stay in school idiot. Quit posting on forums that might actually help someone rather than talk trash on this site providing no useful info for anyone...
ok first off, learn to take a joke, and you think im ****ing immature? look at you! go order some more trans am badges, thats what girls do right? shop? :-P
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 08:04 PM
omg no wonder.... didn't your parents ever tell you to go out and play with the other kids?
ok first off, learn to take a joke, and you think im ****ing immature<<<<-----yes ? look at you! go order some more trans am badges, thats what girls do right? shop? :-P
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 08:08 PM
well i have a job, thanks. i can drive my GP in the snow, and it looks way better than a firebird with a bunch of body **** stuck all over it. news flash - f-body is not the best car ever made
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 08:11 PM
newsflash, why did you even have something to say and yes I can drive my firebird in the snow
well i have a job, thanks. i can drive my GP in the snow, and it looks way better than a firebird with a bunch of body **** stuck all over it. news flash - f-body is not the best car ever made
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 08:12 PM
because youre acting like a child calling people names...you sound like a kid in middle school that just found out being a douchebag makes you cool
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 08:12 PM
hypocrite..... that makes you a little younger if you did your reasearch which you obviously haven't I wasn't the one to start cracking quotes
because youre acting like a child calling people names...you sound like a kid in middle school that just found out being a douchebag makes you cool
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 08:13 PM
ah but see...i didnt actually call you a douchebag, or call you a child....i said youre acting like one. theres a difference, maybe youll figure it out someday
qwikz28
06-05-2006, 08:15 PM
Run me bitch! ;):D
o its on!
IBTL and Jacob pwnz all!!! :)
trashman01
06-05-2006, 08:19 PM
firebirdgm im not 15, im 19 i just happen to grow up around cars my whole life, been at tracks. im not challenging u to a video game, thats for matt, im talking real road course but i guess u aint man enough and since u think im a kid ill take that as a no, so as i sit right now, im the better driver:argue: u need to calm down and think before u speak, u could be one hell of a driver but the way it seems to me, u have a ****** attitude hell u could be a good guy in person but what i have seen in this thread, i think matt is more mature then you.
WayFast84
06-05-2006, 08:22 PM
for record the need 4 speed comment was a joke.
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 08:26 PM
mmmmm so where do you come off challenging me?
firebirdgm im not 15, im 19 i just happen to grow up around cars my whole life, been at tracks. im not challenging u to a video game, thats for matt, im talking real road course but i guess u aint man enough and since u think im a kid ill take that as a no, so as i sit right now, im the better driver:argue: u need to calm down and think before u speak, u could be one hell of a driver but the way it seems to me, u have a ****** attitude hell u could be a good guy in person but what i have seen in this thread, i think matt is more mature then you.
trashman01
06-05-2006, 08:29 PM
came to defend a fellow third gen owner, its his car, he loves it(i think) its what he can afford. and hes a damn kid, just move on with your life
WayFast84
06-05-2006, 08:30 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/Wayfast84/e-thug.jpg
OMFG! you ****ing dumb ass! he comes off challanging you because you challanged me, he has a simular car to me he has a liscence and doesnt have a $2000 suspension system!! He also is a better skilled driver then you, and will prove his point about mods and what not....
edit,
what he said above me
yeah I do love it, i just dont love the **** I get for it.
i dont understand how i lack fundamentals......
and i dont understand how me posting that my cars can beat yours (when your the one that offered wayfast a challenge in the first place) makes me gay?
and if you want to resort to personal attacks please pm or im me... i dont feel like being banned over your pos thread
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 08:37 PM
http://www.mayvalley.org/events/bog1998/cris_with_cereal_bog.jpg
Matt ate as much cereal as he wanted.
1. you suck at the intraweb
2. that made absolutely no sense
3. the filename clearly states his name is cris so even if you wanted to pretend that was a picture of matt it wouldnt be anyway
WayFast84
06-05-2006, 08:38 PM
1. you suck at the intraweb
2. that made absolutely no sense
3. the filename clearly states his name is cris so even if you wanted to pretend that was a picture of matt it wouldnt be anyway
:rofl: :owned:
trashman01
06-05-2006, 08:40 PM
firebirdgm, i think its best to let this thread die be4 some1 slits their wirst
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 08:40 PM
http://home.hio.no/sevu/Pi3web/bilder/ET%20computer%20kid%20happy%20surprised2.jpg <<---WayFast84 gets dissed
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 08:41 PM
http://myspace-546.vo.llnwd.net/00374/64/53/374563546_l.jpg
hey look its firebirdgm2000
notice how mine also makes no sense, even though it is in fact you
you all suck
:popcorn: continue.
qwikz28
06-05-2006, 08:43 PM
whats going on right now?
whats going on right now?
e-fight :popcorn:
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 08:45 PM
rofl he deleted the first picture he attempted to post
trashman01
06-05-2006, 08:46 PM
this is :supergay:
qwikz28
06-05-2006, 08:46 PM
e-fight :popcorn:
egyptians are the best drivers in the whole wide world!
egyptians are the best drivers in the whole wide world!
pfff russia pwns egypt with nukes...all egyptians are gone and now russians are the best!
qwikz28
06-05-2006, 08:51 PM
pfff russia pwns egypt with nukes...all egyptians are gone and now russians are the best!
yeah but i'm from africa so i have a bigger penis
WayFast84
06-05-2006, 08:52 PM
yeah but i'm from africa so i have a bigger penisno jake, they messed up with u they gave you a bigger head instead :nod:
yeah but i'm from africa so i have a bigger penis
i cast a spell to put on a magic hat which gives me teh infanate cockage...
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 08:53 PM
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6654/firebird2oo.jpg awww guys look, sean learned how to use a computer
(horrible chop i know)
qwikz28
06-05-2006, 08:54 PM
i cast a spell to put on a magic hat which gives me teh infanate cockage...
damnit! well we have pyramids so take that ****er!
no jake, they messed up with u they gave you a bigger head instead :nod:
:rofl:
Firebirdgm2000
06-05-2006, 08:55 PM
Awwww look what I saw the other day...
WayFast84 and GP99GT
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f48/Firebirdgm2000/bbbbb.jpg
WayFast84
06-05-2006, 08:59 PM
damn, if ur at least gonna do a chop like that, use real pics...
qwikz28
06-05-2006, 09:04 PM
you guys are boring now. im going out
GP99GT
06-05-2006, 09:10 PM
last time i checked my head doesnt stick through my windshield
NJSPEEDER
06-05-2006, 09:11 PM
goodbye
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