6 cars crushed in Cali for street racing

[V]

just saw it on tv, yesterday 6 cars were crushed. The cars were in the impound for being related to street racing. At first i was like "WTF, crushed for racing??" but then they went on to say that those cars all had either a stolen engine or stolen transmission... so i guess thats what made them impossible to return to the owner they were impounded from.
After hearing that, i guess its all right. hopefully if you own ALL the car, they wont be able to crush it, lol. The cars i saw being crushed was a 99-01 Stang, a civic and an integra, not sure what the other 3 were.


EDIT: found a pic, but doesnt include the stang, maybe that was a different thing... and this is important as well...
Police need a court order to destroy the cars. They must prove that the serial or identification numbers on a vehicle or its parts are removed, altered or destroyed.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/SmokingSS/tincans.jpg

[Camvill]

as long as its not a f-body

[Fast92RS]

haha ricers...:twisted:

[WayFast84]

There could have been a worse story with it, Like they killed some one while racing.

I know the parts/cars where stolen but Ron watch out, if your ever in Cali!

[79CamaroDiva]

we discussed a story like this a while ago. personally i think that any car that they can prove as being involved in an organized street race SHOULD be crushed. and the owner should be made to watch. California, like NJ has enough dragstrips that street racing should be a non-issue.

[Savage_Messiah]

That's BS... what's to stop them from dremelling away ID numbers in the impound lot?

[NJSPEEDER]

stop who from doing it?
the california policy of crushing cars invovled in street racing was upheld in court not too long ago, taht is why this came up almost a year ago and then got dropped for a while. there was an injunction while the legalities were figured out.
it was shown in court that the cars that were determined to be invovled in street racing and got crushed were shown beyond a shadow of a doubt to have been invovled in an organized "criminal enterprise". the premise is that street racing widely invovles gambling, thus it is a way for people to make money. that money can be seen as the profit of a criminal enterprise if the event that made the profit can be shown to be both prearranged and intentionally an illegal act.
the great part is that the case that caused the 9+ month stoppage to the action was all based on someone who got busted big time in court because of his own passengers video camera. apparently everything from the phone call ahead of time, to the meet up, to the stips of the race, to determining the location, to the race itself, and even the winner collecting the cash was all on the tape. lol
when this all first came up there was a rumor that a bunch fo states were looking into creating similar laws, so far cali is alone on this one.

i love that they left the rimzzzzzz on the cars. lol the red ones on bottom made me LOL literally

[Jared1970Chevelle]

we discussed a story like this a while ago. personally i think that any car that they can prove as being involved in an organized street race SHOULD be crushed. and the owner should be made to watch. California, like NJ has enough dragstrips that street racing should be a non-issue.

tons of drag strips like jersey but only open to 9/10 like here..... streets are open 24/7.... most of the people do not even come out til like 10 or so due to work, family, kids, gf, and god only knows what else... if the track was open to 1 or 2 am for a street racing night.... it would save lifes, cars, and be a huge moneymaker where a lot of people would show up....

[NJSPEEDER]

so the tracks shoudl stay open 24/7 just so people won't be criminals?
the tracks in jersey are open 6 of the 7 days of the week. if your schedule precludes you from being able to plan far enough ahead to make it to one, the odds are that it would stop you from being out until 2am just to find a race too.
there is no reason to take it to the streets just because you want to race or jsut because you can keep yourself busy until midnight. look at how many big money show downs happen at the track. it isn't because paying an entry fee is something they want to do, it is because even the big timers know there are 3 safe locations with in our great state to get it in.

this is actually a topic that is going to become the topic of much discussion for everyone with in the next 24hours on this site. :)

[Jared1970Chevelle]

so the tracks shoudl stay open 24/7 just so people won't be criminals?
the tracks in jersey are open 6 of the 7 days of the week. if your schedule precludes you from being able to plan far enough ahead to make it to one, the odds are that it would stop you from being out until 2am just to find a race too.
there is no reason to take it to the streets just because you want to race or jsut because you can keep yourself busy until midnight. look at how many big money show downs happen at the track. it isn't because paying an entry fee is something they want to do, it is because even the big timers know there are 3 safe locations with in our great state to get it in.

this is actually a topic that is going to become the topic of much discussion for everyone with in the next 24hours on this site. :)

not saying they should be open 24/7 just to 1 or 2 would be good enough...

what tracks are open 6 out of the 7 days of the week? just curious to know so i can go tonight....

and dont get me wrong...ive seen many high doller races and been in a few myself at the track... i personally wouldnt race my chevelle on the street its simply to fast and would be very dangerous.... theres 2 spots i would however and there are also spots where other low 9 sec cars have run o.k. on the street.... the streets ment for 10-14 second cars.... single digit ones i think its to dangerous..... its also dangerous for 10-14 if you cant drive either or hit a bump, pothole, etc.... but the power of 10 and below you simply can not put all of it down to the street as it is not prepped like the sticky track.....

[maroman88]

thats the nicest pile of crap ive ever seen lol, thank god no nice cars got crunched

[NJSPEEDER]

jared

Island is open friday, saturday, sunday
E-town is open wednesday, friday, saturday, sunday
Atco is open tuesday, thursday, friday, saturday, sunday

it is also very rare for all three tracks to have major events going on at the same time, actually they try to avoid overlapping as much as possible. so, other than monday nights, the odds are that there is a track to play at.

it woudl be great if the tracks coudl stay open later, but i think that has more to do with the surrounding home owners and politicians than the track managers desire to get out early.

[Jared1970Chevelle]

jared

Island is open friday, saturday, sunday
E-town is open wednesday, friday, saturday, sunday
Atco is open tuesday, thursday, friday, saturday, sunday

it is also very rare for all three tracks to have major events going on at the same time, actually they try to avoid overlapping as much as possible. so, other than monday nights, the odds are that there is a track to play at.

it woudl be great if the tracks coudl stay open later, but i think that has more to do with the surrounding home owners and politicians than the track managers desire to get out early.


atco is a haul for me... i dont really go there....my cars would drink alot of gas going there as well... atco would be good for a stip tho.... you could always be like follow me there then run to prove the car is a streetcar....

surrounding home owners and politicians are the downfall of late night tracks...i know that....

[jims69camaro]

if you alter your car in CA, they are saying, then it shouldn't even be registered for use on the street. if they find out you altered your car and you are anywhere near a street race, then they should crush your car. we don't have this type of law in NJ, but if you watch the parallels between the laws in the two states, then you should be very aware that NJ might be right behind CA in enacting laws like this.

the bottom line is that there have always been street races and they are finally taking the ultimate step in curbing it. kinda hard to street race with no car...

[chevyt454]

Hard headed ricers get what they deserve

[Savage_Messiah]

Everyone stop saying "hah stupid ricers", and real this again carefully.


just saw it on tv, yesterday 6 cars were crushed. The cars were in the impound for being related to street racing.

[V]

Everyone stop saying "hah stupid ricers", and real this again carefully.

lol kasey those were my own words though. but yes, these were cars impounded during street racing AND the engines or other main part were found to have been from other stolen vehicles.
so basically, if you get caught with a stolen engien in your car.. you loose your car, which is common sense in just about any state. ive seen a VW and a porsche taken in spring valley NY for having engines that came back to stolen cars. sure they didnt crush them, but honestly, what will the police do with them? they cant be given back, so they may as well crush them.

If you mod your car for fun and track racing, and all your part were obtained legally, then you have nothign to worry about. IF you get caught racing even then, as long as nothing come back to an altered or stolen VIN #, they can impound your car, but they cant crush it.

[BonzoHansen]

What a waste of taxpayer dollars. Strip them & sell the parts.

Technically, the stolen parts are not owned by the ‘street racer’ in question. They belong to the rightful owner, the person or insurance company that holds the title. There could be some rights being trampled on there. Not surprising in California.

Did they say if they were hunting down the group/people that sells the stolen engines? I’m sure the street race punks gave up their suppliers ASAP.

[Knipps]

we discussed a story like this a while ago. personally i think that any car that they can prove as being involved in an organized street race SHOULD be crushed. and the owner should be made to watch. California, like NJ has enough dragstrips that street racing should be a non-issue.

they were forced to watch :rofl:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/20/AR2007062001856.html

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/06/20/PH2007062001859.jpg

HAD to add these

Hoang said he was caught late last year racing his prized car, on which he spent at least $10,000 to get into top shape. The 350-horsepower engine topped out at 160 mph, Hoang said, swearing it could beat a Corvette or even a Ferrari.
Zavala, who admits he's been involved in street racing, estimates he and his mother spent about $10,000 on improvements to his car.

[BonzoHansen]

"Mommy, they took my car, wwwahhhhhhhh"

[Squirrel]

they'll all have a new honda in a few days and they'll be back on the street that night

[qwikz28]

they'll all have a new honda in a few days and they'll be back on the street that night

i doubt that. who could actually afford that?

by the way, thats two acura integras and three honda civics in that picture. i'd love to see them do that to a corvette or a porsche

[87GTA]

ha ha thats funny!! and um..yeah right to this!! this is what one of the kids said....Hoang said he was caught late last year racing his prized car, on which he spent at least $10,000 to get into top shape. The 350-horsepower engine topped out at 160 mph, Hoang said, swearing it could beat a Corvette or even a Ferrari.

[Squirrel]

a 350 hp honda walking a ferrari, i wouldnt be surprised...

[unstable bob gable]

"DAYUM, YO! DEY CRUSHED MY VTEC AND ****!"
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/06/20/PH2007062001859.jpg

[Savage_Messiah]

Smartest one there: that white integra??? in the middle of the stack.

reason: hubcaps on car.... the rimzzz are probably on ebay right now. lol

[procamaroz28]

thats the nicest pile of crap ive ever seen lol, thank god no nice cars got crunched
lol i bet i can make nicer pile of crap w/ a good meal

[matt01Z28]

you know what else i find kinda funny they said " when they popped the hood they saw a stolen transmission" ...........???????????

[bubba428]

$10,000 for 350 hp...whats he got a 200 shot lol

EDIT: HAD :rofl: !!!!

[BMF]

doing something like that to something that these guys spent alot of money and time building should be offensive to you guys, reguardless.

the punishment doesnt fit the crime IMO.

[jims69camaro]

doing something like that to something that these guys spent alot of money and time building should be offensive to you guys, reguardless.

the punishment doesnt fit the crime IMO.

it's illegal to street race.

cop writes a ticket, makes racer go to court. judge hands down fine and court costs, but since racer had such a good night, he's laughing as he counts the bills off of his stack to pay the court clerk. that night, he's back out on the street looking to stip another race.

it's illegal to street race.

cop writes a ticket, makes racer go to court. judge hands down fine and court costs, but since racer had such a good night, he's laughing as he counts the bills off of his stack to pay the court clerk. that night, he's back out on the street looking to stip another race.

it's illegal to street race.

cop writes a ticket, makes racer go to court. judge hands down fine and court costs, but since racer had such a good night, he's laughing as he counts the bills off of his stack to pay the court clerk. that night, he's back out on the street looking to stip another race.

get it? crushing the car stops the vicious circle. no more street racing if there is no car. you know what i find offensive? people who think that street racing is ok. people die in street races. and sometimes it's an innocent bystander. now, that's offensive.

[Savage_Messiah]

Only a matter of time before in their eyes there's no differentiation between a street racer and someone cruising around in a modified car who only races at the track. After all, you can't tell one from the other just by looking at them,

[chemicalstylez]

doing something like that to something that these guys spent alot of money and time building should be offensive to you guys, reguardless.

the punishment doesnt fit the crime IMO.

I have to agree, Honduh's or not. Getting a car crushed for street racing is total crap. All it would take is someone messing with you and taking off, a cop sees that pulls you both over for "street racing" and BAM your car is crushed for no reason. Its crap. All it would take is 1 bored cop to screw someone innocent over.

[Wasted Youth]

yo kid look at mah rimz...lol it would depend on the situation, If you are a repeat offender, yank driving privileges. If it's a big dollar race and stolen parts are involved, they will just steal another car and build something until they get caught again...If someone wants to do something bad enough they are going to do it regardless. An organized street race is one thing and messing around in traffic is another...They were talking about an organized race, a road would more then likely be closed and just the street racers are there, everyone knows what could happen in terms of an accident and if someone does die, its part of life...you knew the consequences when you showed up that night, you can die anywhere in a car it happens everyday...street racing will never completely stop it can only slow down

[bobb1589]

i think you are all missing the point... the biggest reason they crushed them was BECAUSE THEY WERE STOLEN PARTS

[matt01Z28]

I have to agree, Honduh's or not. Getting a car crushed for street racing is total crap. All it would take is someone messing with you and taking off, a cop sees that pulls you both over for "street racing" and BAM your car is crushed for no reason. Its crap. All it would take is 1 bored cop to screw someone innocent over.

there is a video floatin around on youtube of an eagle talon racing a lingenfelder vette (course the talon gets crushed) , could you imagine spending $100,000+ on like a lingenfelder vette or say a viper, lambo, etc and "getting caught street racing" thats destroying like 1/3 of a fairly big house ... that's f***** up

[V]

i think you are all missing the point... the biggest reason they crushed them was BECAUSE THEY WERE STOLEN PARTS

thank you, lol, i didnt feel like saying it myself again.

[Batman]

there is a video floatin around on youtube of an eagle talon racing a lingenfelder vette (course the talon gets crushed) , could you imagine spending $100,000+ on like a lingenfelder vette or say a viper, lambo, etc and "getting caught street racing" thats destroying like 1/3 of a fairly big house ... that's f****** up


Simple solution to that problem, Don't street race. If you had your $100,000 car crushed for racing it is your own fault not the cops. Course with a $100,000 car you should get away..........

[bobb1589]

yet AGAIN... you are missing the point... THERE WERE STOLEN PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
god dam... are you people illiterate?

[Wasted Youth]

yet AGAIN... you are missing the point... THERE WERE STOLEN PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
god dam... are you people illiterate?


we aren't responding to the initial story, we are responding to the response the story got, we get off topic sometimes....it happens...bare with us

[bobb1589]

oh... i just kept looking at it as people werent getting the point :X my bad :p

[Savage_Messiah]

i think you are all missing the point... the biggest reason they crushed them was BECAUSE THEY WERE STOLEN PARTS

in this situation yes, however it can pave the way for more and more leniency on the reason for crushing. "Well if we can do A we can do B.... and eventually that makes it close enough to doing Y"

[BonzoHansen]

yet AGAIN... you are missing the point... THERE WERE STOLEN PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
god dam... are you people illiterate?No. Well, not most of us. LOL.

Where is the correlation between crushing the cars & the stolen parts? How does that hurt the guys stealing & selling parts? Do they really think this is a deterrent to guys looking to buy used parts? They might not have even known they were stolen. Do you check the pedigree of all the used parts you buy? I certainly don’t. I don’t see why the parts being stolen or not should impact the outcome.

Do they crush guns used in robberies? Just stolen guns?

I'll ask again.
What a waste of taxpayer dollars. Strip them & sell the parts.

Technically, the stolen parts are not owned by the ‘street racer’ in question. They belong to the rightful owner, the person or insurance company that holds the title. There could be some rights being trampled on there. Not surprising in California.

Did they say if they were hunting down the group/people that sells the stolen engines? I’m sure the street race punks gave up their suppliers ASAP.

What are they punishing, street racing or theft? I agree with BMR, the punishment does not fit the crime – it makes no logical sense. And I'm not soft on street racing. I think actual street racers (not fast cars in general) shoud be punished.

[Savage_Messiah]

it's illegal to street race.

cop writes a ticket, makes racer go to court. judge hands down fine and court costs, but since racer had such a good night, he's laughing as he counts the bills off of his stack to pay the court clerk. that night, he's back out on the street looking to stip another race.

it's illegal to street race.

cop writes a ticket, makes racer go to court. judge hands down fine and court costs, but since racer had such a good night, he's laughing as he counts the bills off of his stack to pay the court clerk. that night, he's back out on the street looking to stip another race.

it's illegal to street race.

cop writes a ticket, makes racer go to court. judge hands down fine and court costs, but since racer had such a good night, he's laughing as he counts the bills off of his stack to pay the court clerk. that night, he's back out on the street looking to stip another race.

get it? crushing the car stops the vicious circle. no more street racing if there is no car. you know what i find offensive? people who think that street racing is ok. people die in street races. and sometimes it's an innocent bystander. now, that's offensive.


Easier way to stop the cycle? throw them in jail. They can't rae anything behind bars.

[matt01Z28]

hey i just saw that my post was edited for language ... sorry about that whomever does the editing .. I didn't even realize it

[jola]

What a waste of taxpayer dollars. Strip them & sell the parts.

Technically, the stolen parts are not owned by the ‘street racer’ in question. They belong to the rightful owner, the person or insurance company that holds the title. There could be some rights being trampled on there. Not surprising in California.

Did they say if they were hunting down the group/people that sells the stolen engines? I’m sure the street race punks gave up their suppliers ASAP.
My thoughts exactly. It would have been more beneficial to sell those cars for like $5 then to crush them and just create garbage.

[V]

look at it from a lawyers point of veiw... they city/town sells that parts(or even whole car cheap) and soemone gets hurt or blames a bought part for soemthing, the city is now facing a huge lawsuit. regardless if they sell parts "as-is" etc. Plus if its stolen parts, the insurance companies probably already paid out so the iriginal owners have no claim to it anymore im many cases, and the insurance companies already wrote it off in their books, they dont want parts back. By crushing the cars, its the end all and leaves no loose ends that could come back and bite them in the ass

[BonzoHansen]

look at it from a lawyers point of veiw... they city/town sells that parts(or even whole car cheap) and soemone gets hurt or blames a bought part for soemthing, the city is now facing a huge lawsuit. regardless if they sell parts "as-is" etc. Plus if its stolen parts, the insurance companies probably already paid out so the iriginal owners have no claim to it anymore im many cases, and the insurance companies already wrote it off in their books, they dont want parts back. By crushing the cars, its the end all and leaves no loose ends that could come back and bite them in the ass

Insurance companies don't throw money away. If there is salvage to be had, they get it. It all sounds like crap to me (not your reply, what CA is doing).

[jola]

look at it from a lawyers point of veiw... they city/town sells that parts(or even whole car cheap) and soemone gets hurt or blames a bought part for soemthing, the city is now facing a huge lawsuit. regardless if they sell parts "as-is" etc. Plus if its stolen parts, the insurance companies probably already paid out so the iriginal owners have no claim to it anymore im many cases, and the insurance companies already wrote it off in their books, they dont want parts back. By crushing the cars, its the end all and leaves no loose ends that could come back and bite them in the ass
Wouldn't that go for any car sold used or w/o a title though?

EDIT: Or any aftermarket non-OEM parts for that matter.

[Frosty]

tons of drag strips like jersey but only open to 9/10 like here..... streets are open 24/7.... most of the people do not even come out til like 10 or so due to work, family, kids, gf, and god only knows what else... if the track was open to 1 or 2 am for a street racing night.... it would save lifes, cars, and be a huge moneymaker where a lot of people would show up....

Do you actually believe that? :rofl: :rofl:

My ass is sleeping at 1AM and not thinking of racing a car,lol. If you schedule doesn't allow you to go to a track during normal hours that's just tough.

[Knipps]

look at it from a lawyers point of veiw... they city/town sells that parts(or even whole car cheap) and soemone gets hurt or blames a bought part for soemthing, the city is now facing a huge lawsuit. regardless if they sell parts "as-is" etc. Plus if its stolen parts, the insurance companies probably already paid out so the iriginal owners have no claim to it im many cases, and the insurance companies already wrote it off in their books, they dont want parts back. By crushing the cars, its the end all and leaves no loose ends that could come back and bite them in the ass

i agree. that and by selling the parts back to the public it could be seen as encouraging more street racing and someone would have something to say about that

[Frosty]

i agree. that and by selling the parts back to the public it could be seen as encouraging more street racing and someone would have something to say about that

OR it could be viewed that the local governments are trying to "cash in" on the street racing craze which would then raise concerns that the cops/judges would be pressured to really start handing out these penalties to generate revenue.

[Knipps]

OR it could be viewed that the local governments are trying to "cash in" on the street racing craze which would then raise concerns that the cops/judges would be pressured to really start handing out these penalties to generate revenue.

:werd:

[jola]

That's a good point.

[Blacdout96]

They could always make a racign league wiht the cars they capture, like how cops are goign around in cali and nevada givig them not traffic tickets, but free passes into a local drag strip to keep them off the road ( they only give em to ya if your not caught racing, theyll jsut come up to you adn write you a free pass if they suspect you might street race) but like they could use them in autocross, drag race, and road racing sanctioned events. Free cars, good race, and it wouldshow people that it would be alot more fun and safer to race on a track wiht a car liek that then on the streets. I know im gonna get flamed on this, but go ahead and make your points guys, its just my thought.

[Frosty]

EVERYBODY that street races knows it's illegal, case closed. Now, I'm not saying I haven't done it because I'd be a liar. However I knew the consequences if I got caught. The fact is no matter what you do there will always be people that street race. How many times have we all laughed at the riced out cars wondering why they even bother running at the track with 18 second cars? It's better than the street right? Well some don't like getting made fun of at the track. There's no right or wrong answer, people are going to do what they want to do.

[Savage_Messiah]

Well some don't like getting made fun of at the track.


I don't but I still go!!! :lol:

[cam70nfs]

they could have parted them out or sold at auction and fed some starving kids

[unstable bob gable]

They should crush the owners of those ricers, too...:mrgreen:

[Knipps]

they could have parted them out or sold at auction and fed some starving kids

there would be extreme legal repercussions.. think about how many angry mothers would write/call/email the hell out of them

[Blacdout96]

there would be extreme legal repercussions.. think about how many angry mothers would write/call/email the hell out of them

well if they pose a threat, then crush the mothers as well :lol:

[jims69camaro]

well if they pose a threat, then crush the mothers as well :lol:

the best reply in this thread!

[Mark B]

They crushed them to make a point/example. Sure they could have parted the cars out or whatever, but what does that do? It puts go fast parts in the hands of people who will do what with those parts? Street race. By crushing the cars, they are trying to scare the other street racers & send a message. Well worth the 30k hit they took by not parting out the cars.

As said above, the reason the police were allowed to crush the cars is because parts of the cars were stolen. From how the story reads, it sounds like most of the drivers were part of gangs anyway. Im sure the cops had good reasons to pick these 6 cars.