View Full Version : What else do you want? My soul?
ar0ck
12-25-2007, 01:47 AM
As some of you may or may not know, but one of my other jobs is working for a small sports photographer as a part time assistant. It was working out pretty well making a few extra bucks on the occasional weekend every month or so on top of 2 other jobs & school.
Things haven’t been to great for the company in the past month and we haven’t been able to keep up with the work. Being the nice guy that I am I tried my absolute best to help out whenever I could. I didn’t pressure him for pay either this month since I knew he was struggling just to break even at events.
This past weekend I wasn’t able to work for him, but I still some how got suckered into working! It ruined a lot of things I had set aside for my family, my friends & school. I ended up working anyway and I was not happy.
Last week I was supposed to stop by and help him process a **** load of orders, but I had to call him and tell him I wasn’t going to be able to because of my other day jobs, family obligations & finals at school. Well the guy is pissed at me for not being able to work! I haven’t heard from him since the last time I called him Monday so I emailed him to check in and apologize for being so so busy and I also asked him about my paycheck. He responded to my email today with this:
“Yes, I have your check. I also would like to talk to you about the
status of your relationship with the company.”
What do I say to that? I do my absolute best to help this guy out but I have my own life to deal with too!
Blacdout96
12-25-2007, 02:05 AM
Tire iron....that is all
foff667
12-25-2007, 07:05 AM
Tell him to pay you a doctors salary if he expects you to be "on call" 24/7 otherwise just pay you and you'll try to help out as much as you can, but working every weekend isn't going to be feasible.
WildBillyT
12-25-2007, 07:32 AM
You should probably remind him that you are a PART TIME assistant. That's not to say that you won't help out when you can (because it seems like that's what you are doing) but you have other obligations that are keeping you from being full time.
This is certainly a tough spot to be in, good luck with it.
SteveR
12-25-2007, 08:47 AM
Tell him to go ef himself. Sounds like he doesnt appreciate you and expects you to be his biotch.
Teds89IROC
12-25-2007, 10:37 AM
I agree with pretty much everyone else, especially Bill's suggestion. You're working part time as an assistant for this guy and you're only getting paid for the hours YOU work.
misterjuice
12-25-2007, 10:42 AM
they're always trying to keep the black man down
nj96z28
12-25-2007, 10:43 AM
sounds like you became his go to guy and didnt realize it was happening, also sounds like hes a bit of a dick
12secondv6
12-25-2007, 06:03 PM
burn him
procamaroz28
12-25-2007, 07:02 PM
say u couldnt make it because u had previous comitments and ask for the money u worked for and call it a day
firehawk1120
12-25-2007, 07:14 PM
while the situation sucks you don't want to burn bridges if this guy is in the field your interest in and knows a lot of people. The easiest way to screw up your career is to piss him off and have him say **** about you.
Just tell him you are sorry you couldn't work, but that you felt you were just part time and had made previous arrangements and that family and school at this point come first. If he can't understand that then just tell him your sorry that it's not going to work out it seems he needs a full time employee and you can't fit that in your schedule at this point in your life.
Use this as a learning experience when you are always saying yes and dropping everything there are some people who will take advantage of it, at least until your not there anymore.
Good luck
qwikz28
12-25-2007, 09:27 PM
while the situation sucks you don't want to burn bridges if this guy is in the field your interest in and knows a lot of people. The easiest way to screw up your career is to piss him off and have him say **** about you.
Just tell him you are sorry you couldn't work, but that you felt you were just part time and had made previous arrangements and that family and school at this point come first. If he can't understand that then just tell him your sorry that it's not going to work out it seems he needs a full time employee and you can't fit that in your schedule at this point in your life.
Use this as a learning experience when you are always saying yes and dropping everything there are some people who will take advantage of it, at least until your not there anymore.
Good luck
this man speaks wisdom.
bubba428
12-25-2007, 09:28 PM
Tire iron....that is all
I agree 100%
slasherbarb
12-26-2007, 09:28 AM
you know my services are always available...
ar0ck
01-02-2008, 12:32 AM
Got these two things in my email tonight. Clearly he is trying to no have to pay me.
Alex,
My Magellan 760 has not worked since the night you used it. I use
this for my business and you mentioned to me that you dropped it and
also I remember you trying to hook it up when It came off the
assembly. I had my Magellan 760 looked at and they said that it is
broke and shorted out. It has not worked since you used it and now I
have to purchase a new one. I am subtracting the price of a new one.
I am upset since I use this for my business. Also by you calling out
sick the days before the holiday you cost me a lot of money since
this is the busiest time of year for any retail company. I don't
think you acted very professional in the way you handled working for
me. I also received complaints from the way you handled yourself at
the North Stars event. Customers told me you had your head down on
the table while customers were viewing photos.
Victor
Alex,
I am also processing orders from the US Gym meet in NY and you never
asked for their telephone and email address like you were taught. I
have over $xxx.xx in credit card receipts that I can't process without
this information. I now have only their names to try to get this
information for retrieving payment! This will take many hours and
hopefully I can find out who they are but I don't know how yet!!!
Victor
First of all I didn't break his GPS Unit. I did use it one night and the suction cup thing failed multiple times, only once did it actually hit the floor without me catching it but it continued to work for me the entire night until he used it. He has no proof I broke anything! And the whole head down thing on the table, I was resting my head saving myself from a massive headache after working for the past 12+ hours. I wasn't able to work for him in the past two weeks because I had multiple family engagements and school work to complete before I could commit to giving him any of my own personal time. The last part about the phone numbers from customers, I wasn't even the person taking customers he hired two other random people to help me I was processing orders the entire time. Its not my business, not my problem.
I didn't go and retrieve the check in person like I was going to because of this exact kind of BS. I know I would not have been able to keep my cool. He owes me a good $700+ dollars from the entire month of December.
I think I'm going to have to take legal action.
CALL911
01-02-2008, 07:36 AM
I think you might be thinking too deep into what appears to me as a simple matter. Its more than obvious that there is a dispute brewing between you and the company. From what you have told us, it sounds obvious that he is demanding too much for the part time position you held, and witholding compensation from you is a matter you have the right to take legal action in. However if that is the route you wish to take, know that he will use the same info you just posted as evidence against you and why you haven't been paid.
If you want advice, I say cut your losses, try to get him to pay you what he will, and then quit and move on. It sounds like you don't have time or extra money to jump into a legal dispute of which you may or may not end up on top of in the end.
WildBillyT
01-02-2008, 09:21 AM
Wait a second. What is Victor's full name, and what company does he work for? This sounds familiar for some reason...
Rafterman
01-02-2008, 12:28 PM
Got a paintball gun? :twisted:
Teds89IROC
01-02-2008, 04:56 PM
I agree with call 911, if he owes you a couple hundred dollars, legal action isn't worth it, especially if the outcome isn't guaranteed. As call911 said, see what he's willing to pay you and maybe argue his story of the GPS. He doesn't have proof you broke it. Maybe just threaten legal action. Nothing can be proven, except that he owes you money that you earned.
misterjuice
01-02-2008, 06:19 PM
tell him you'll send Mustafa after him
ins0mnia24
01-02-2008, 06:26 PM
Actually in the state of New jersey it is illegal for an employer to withhold your pay, deduct money from your pay check due to damaged or missing work tools, items ect,ect..
Unless they have your written consent..
That is why you have to fill out paperwork at a job to begin Medical benefits, 401K plans ect because they are required to have your written consent to with hold or deduct money from your paycheck..
And it is fully supported by the New Jersey department of Labor if you have a dispute they will file it for you for free and pursue it for you against the employer...
Plus you will be compensated with interest added on top of the money owed to you depending on how long they drag it out to pay you.
If I remember correctly I was given an additional 10% on top of the money that a past employer refused to pay me..
Even if you broke the guys GPS on purpose he legally can not deduct the money from your paycheck it is a civil matter..
Brando56894
01-02-2008, 06:46 PM
Tell him to go ef himself. Sounds like he doesnt appreciate you and expects you to be his biotch.
yea that sounds like a good description steve. i guess it all depends on how the pay is and if its worth putting up with the BS just to gain some experience.
BonzoHansen
01-02-2008, 07:02 PM
Give him your soul, it's not worth anythng anyways! :mrgreen:
Kojak
01-02-2008, 10:22 PM
tell him you'll send Mustafa after him
"I'm not dead yet but I'm very badly burned!"
slasherbarb
01-02-2008, 10:28 PM
my services are still at your disposal...
firehawk1120
01-03-2008, 12:25 PM
"I'm not dead yet but I'm very badly burned!"
are you james's alter ego???
Pampered-Z
01-03-2008, 03:08 PM
I know it's your field and something you like, but it is a PT job that is causing you greif and interfering with the rest of your life and it doesn't sound like you can justify the money equaling the BS.
Talk to him, I'd say try to be professional as you can, you never know when or if things might change in the future, and then leave it at that. If he calls you back to work for him, then you can do it on your terms, and you know to always CYA with the guy. If not just chark it up to a learning experience of how some people can be. You made a few buck, got some expereince for your resume, and learned a few thing. So even with the stuff you're dealing with now it was worth it. Just look at it like that.
It's funny ( in a strange way ) in your other post about the 35mm, and I was remembering all the BS I went through dealing with "professional" models and agents! Which is why I eventually gave up and switched to computers.
JB
chrisfrom nj
01-03-2008, 04:47 PM
all you need to do is show up there when hes closeing punch the guy in the face and break the guys legs for your if he owed you 700 and gives you 1500 call that working over time
Blacdout96
01-03-2008, 05:08 PM
you can take him to small claims, yoiu dont need the whole lawyer deal, its like the judge judy deal, you show up, he shows up, you both express your cases, and most likely it wil bei n your favor since what your broke was the companies, and not personally his.
bubba428
01-03-2008, 05:10 PM
all you need to do is show up there when hes closeing punch the guy in the face and break the guys legs for your if he owed you 700 and gives you 1500 call that working over time
I have a sledge and a 4ft crow bar in my car, I'm game :rofl:
chrisfrom nj
01-03-2008, 05:11 PM
I have a sledge and a 4ft crow bar in my car, I'm game :rofl:they dont call me the landscaper for nothing
Tru2Chevy
01-03-2008, 05:21 PM
you can take him to small claims, yoiu dont need the whole lawyer deal, its like the judge judy deal, you show up, he shows up, you both express your cases, and most likely it wil bei n your favor since what your broke was the companies, and not personally his.
There is no need....as was stated earlier, he's legally obligated to pay Alex for the hours that he worked, and he can't take anything out of the check unless Alex signed something when he started working there stating that he would pay for any damaged equipment belonging to the business.
- Justin
jims69camaro
01-07-2008, 11:18 PM
you should call the labor board to make sure you know what your rights are before you even go to collect your last pay from him.
i would only advise to stop writing emails with him. i would only contact him one more time to find out when you can pick up your last pay. communication beyond that is only going to muddy the waters.
if someone is available to go with you to collect your last pay, like a female friend or relative, then take them. they are less threatening to the employer and tend to pay more attention to what's being said. if you call the labor board and they tell you to do something, do it. they aren't trying to make it difficult for you, they are trying to protect your rights.
good luck.
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