"GTFO"

[project89]

ok mister running a large injector will put them out of sync with the valves lmfao

[bubba428]

yea that was a brain fart..i'll admit it...but you try taking two calls, calling them in as impounded to PD, releasing a car over 6000lbs that was dollied and the people want to know why it was $250 and thinking about fuel system tech all at the same time. then do that 8-8 every day and see if you dont **** up...that actually came from my specific build. i'm having a problem with the cam cause it has no cam sensor pick up on it. so the injectors are firing all willy nilly.

[project89]

but back to my original point running a 60# injector and only needing 42;s will not make it run lean or be inefficiant
i donno u but id rather have a big injector then not enough

[enRo]

:orlyflag: :dancinglock:

[bubba428]

to an extent...if your duty cycle is to low they will spit, if its too high they will spit I worked mine out to run at 75-80% at stock fuel pressure.

[deadtrend1]

the more you say the dumber you look....you don't catch on to quick do ya

the more you argue the dumber you look also

[bubba428]

i realize this but i just don't give a *****

[Knipps]

i realize this but i just don't give a *****

then what makes you think he does?
:threadsu:

[project89]

not if the fp is right,and the only issue may be idle tunning if the injectors are to large u cant get the pulse width low enough.

if the injectors are to oversized u wont be able to open and close them fast enough,basically u will just crack them open resulting in poor idle and very hard tunability

an lt1 needs a 50# injector open 9.2 msec for 100% ve at wot add in the 1.1 msec opening timeand u have a 10.3 msec pulse width
thats without any enrichment running a 14.7 afr
now for 12.0 afr that would be closer to 12.3 msec or about 42% duty cycle on the na motor

bring that down to idle and ur looking around a 1.5 msec pw at idle + the 1.1msec opening time plenty of time to allow for idle tunning even though it is a lil on the low side by about .7 msec

idle pw shoudl be around 2.3 msec without opening time for ease of tunning the mixture,with low pw time the only thing that happens is an enrichment in the ve bin becomes exaggerated a 1% increase in the table could actually become a 4% increase in injector flow or decrease depending on which way ur going

but at idle ur already dropping fp when vacum is aplied to the regulator as long as u have an adjustable fpr its fine u can just take out an additional 1-3 psi of fp at idle

but 50's are well within the range of being tunable at idle something like say a 60 or 70 pound injector would make for hell trying to tune at idle with ultra short pulse widths

[Tru2Chevy]

Nice job Dave....glad to see the car is finally starting to come together and put down the numbers.

- Justin

[bubba428]

Nice job Dave....glad to see the car is finally starting to come together and put down the numbers.

- Justin

OMG HE SAID SOMETHING NICE :willy:

[NJSPEEDER]

42% is not much of a duty cycle and certainly not with in the range that an injector will be efficient. 60# at 42% is also not equal to 50# at 100% unless the fuel pressure referenced is massively different.

Sounds like you just decided to over complicate things with a Vafpr that you didn't need and the wrong sized injectors that you most likely picked up with all of the other second hand stuff you used in the super combo.

[bubba428]

42% is not much of a duty cycle and certainly not with in the range that an injector will be efficient. 60# at 42% is also not equal to 50# at 100% unless the fuel pressure referenced is massively different.

Sounds like you just decided to over complicate things with a Vafpr that you didn't need and the wrong sized injectors that you most likely picked up with all of the other second hand stuff you used in the super combo.

yea thats what i was trying to say...:moon:

[98tadriver]

you should quit messin around and go 90 degree

lol hmmm who else did we say this to? it was a while back and i dont think its even running

[bubba428]

funny funny....which one of your cars runs again?

[NJSPEEDER]

Ron had his T/A at the Roadhouse.

[98tadriver]

WOW my brain hurts...I think you are going to demolish another perfectly good F-body...unless you plan on running 600+hp you don't need 50lb/hr injectors. When you get this abortion on the road call me...I'll race you with my 88 Saab, cause with your track record anything that can finish will win


this comes from somebody who demolished 2 of them! :nod: :lol:

[98tadriver]

Ron had his T/A at the Roadhouse.

correct, and that was a nice turnout too

funny funny....which one of your cars runs again?

both of them run and drive fine. one gets 32mpg, the other 26mpg and runs low 12s all day :)

[bubba428]

this comes from somebody who demolished 2 of them! :nod: :lol:

1st off I wasn't driving the T/A and at least that car got some use and was turned into something better as opposed to rotting away in the weeds...

and the camaro being a bastard right now she'll be out to play soon enough

[98tadriver]

1st off I wasn't driving the T/A and at least that car got some use and was turned into something better as opposed to rotting away in the weeds...

and the camaro being a bastard right now she'll be out to play soon enough

lol it wasnt "rotting away in the weeds." the car looked so much better before you got a hold of it. i remember cringing along with a few njfboa members at the track when we saw it there. i remember putting the car on the lift and showing you and you bought it. it wasnt like u bought it blindly. that camaro has been a bastard for a pretty long time now.

[bubba428]

a yea and a few months, and I know what the car looked like when I got it, and when it was wrecked...your ****ing crazy if you think it was better the way it was

[98tadriver]

a yea and a few months, and I know what the car looked like when I got it, and when it was wrecked...your ****ing crazy if you think it was better the way it was

if its as bad as u say it is, then why on earth would you buy it? Only a complete idiot would do something like that... my trader feedback on every forum is 100% positive with nothing but good things to say, and people who know me (which would be quite a few) know i wouldnt make up stories.

[sweetbmxrider]

internet fights!!! ....ducks....

[LTb1ow]

What happened to the geometry guy and his 65 degree six banger?

[bubba428]

i didn't say you were making **** up...but when I got the car it was faded black with ****ed up GFX
http://http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3084/imgp4556bx2.jpg

does that look "worse" to you?

that and it went from a high 15s car to a 13s car that doesn't consitute worse to me

[sweetbmxrider]

i think hes in space, flying a space camaro

[LTb1ow]

I bet its got a sweet one bank turbo on it.

[sweetbmxrider]

thats all you need to break out of the atmosphere. duh

[deadtrend1]

i didn't say you were making **** up...but when I got the car it was faded black with ****ed up GFX
http://http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3084/imgp4556bx2.jpg

does that look "worse" to you?

that and it went from a high 15s car to a 13s car that doesn't consitute worse to me

dude, you rattled canned it. Unless you had a professional paint job, don't comment on that.

[LTb1ow]

And then of course there is the 50#s for extra kick when entering black holes.

[deadtrend1]

And then of course there is the 50#s for extra kick when entering black holes.

lol :lol:

[LTb1ow]

I wonder if he has the V6 coupled with the LT1 for jumps to lightspeed....

[project89]

42% is not much of a duty cycle and certainly not with in the range that an injector will be efficient. 60# at 42% is also not equal to 50# at 100% unless the fuel pressure referenced is massively different.

Sounds like you just decided to over complicate things with a Vafpr that you didn't need and the wrong sized injectors that you most likely picked up with all of the other second hand stuff you used in the super combo.


42 % was for wot na not turbo the injector will sit around 60-68% with boost

who cares if its to big it still works, when i already have a set of 50 pound injectors why would i go spend a few hundred for a set of 42's when the 50;s will work just fine

[LTb1ow]

Back from space!

[98tadriver]

i didn't say you were making **** up...but when I got the car it was faded black with ****ed up GFX
http://http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3084/imgp4556bx2.jpg

does that look "worse" to you?

that and it went from a high 15s car to a 13s car that doesn't consitute worse to me


your flat black paint job and intake too tall so run aircleanerless setup was ghetto as hell. It went from 15s stock to 14s. and looked like crap in doing so. it never ran 13s. Now you are just like your buddy project89 on here, speculating what your car mightve ran.

[LTb1ow]

Huh? What did I do?

[deadtrend1]

Huh? What did I do?

touched yourself at night?

[LTb1ow]

Nooooo thats why the dinosaurs died, but I am curious as to why I was lumped with Bubba.

[98tadriver]

well, id love to keep arguing, but im going to play cod4 on xbox live. im going to use juggernaut, M16, noob tube and last stand and piss more people off. and then knife them with night vision on when its daylight.

[LTb1ow]

RPD FTW.

[bubba428]

your flat black paint job and intake too tall so run aircleanerless setup was ghetto as hell. It went from 15s stock to 14s. and looked like crap in doing so. it never ran 13s. Now you are just like your buddy project89 on here, speculating what your car mightve ran.

no speculation it DID it just can't do it again

[sweetbmxrider]

lightspeed :lol: thats great!

[98tadriver]

no speculation it DID it just can't do it again

have proof? video?

[LTb1ow]

He says so, thats proof!

[Savage_Messiah]

This thread is garbage.

[enRo]

This thread is garbage.

:orlyflag: +1...



My car runs 12.9 with what it has... but, when I overnight parts from Japan it's gonna be 3 seconds faster. I have proof. I ran the same mods on Gran Turismo 4 and it ran 9's. :lol:

[LTb1ow]

In conclusion, running a turbo off of one bank, having it on a V6 and spray painting your car are all very good ways to make it secretly fast.

[Savage_Messiah]

that's just knocking on his v6, not all of them, right?

[LTb1ow]

Yes.

[sweetbmxrider]

you guys are so nice. group hug

[LTb1ow]

Well I do try...

[V]

you guys are seriously retarDed

[LTb1ow]

Just bored.

[sweetbmxrider]

you guys are seriously retarted

Mental retardation is a generalized, triarchic disorder, characterized by subaverage cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors with onset before the age of 18. Once focused almost entirely on cognition, the definition now includes both a component relating to mental functioning and one relating to the individual's functional skills in their environment.

i'm kinda a dick....and i'm bored :lol:

i used to do that all the time too

[LTb1ow]

Ruiners of threads.

[sweetbmxrider]

Ruiners of threads.

seriously that should be our user titles hahaha

[LTb1ow]

Lol yea well, way to much free time and not nearly enough booze.

[GP99GT]

you just ruined another ruiners thread though....fail

[LTb1ow]

Nah, this one covered a lot of random ****.

[sweetbmxrider]

you just ruined another ruiners thread though....fail

isn't two fails a win?

[12secondv6]

Just ban his ass.... he is an idiot.

[LTb1ow]

Are you jealous of his sweet V6?

[12secondv6]

Are you jealous of his sweet V6?

:rofl: HELLLLL no.

Mine does WAY better ;)

[LTb1ow]

Idk, he only needs THREE cylinders to run his turbo. That must be fast.

[trashman01]

So do it?
money is the issue, i still gotta get the rockers and floors fixed:lol:

you wont, no balls!!!
even if the car ends up living up to his fantasy, he's still a tool

i got better stuff atm to spend my money on, me and my girl are trying to get some coin and move out. and bubba hows he a tool when he has running f-bodys, and i bet he has rear brakes 2:moon: so goodnite, there is dead bodies and trash to be picked up.

[LTb1ow]

Dead bodies.

[Savage_Messiah]

Post whore.

[Knipps]

Post whore.

This thread is a post cluster ****

[Savage_Messiah]

Yeah, is it lockdown time yet?

[Knipps]

Yeah, is it lockdown time yet?

not quite, a few more posts should do it

[NJSPEEDER]

/thread