"GTFO"

[GP99GT]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/strngedaysNdeed/randomnats/randomnats007.jpg

:rofl:

[Mike]

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[ar0ck]

I can't believe he showed up :lol: That was probably the highlight of the day!

[mtg6486]

what did i miss

[LTb1ow]

Yea, why did they kick em? And what was with that evo stopping at the 1/8 to let you catch up?

[GP99GT]

for those that cant see the car.....

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/strngedaysNdeed/randomnats/lethal.jpg

if you dont recognize the car, then you fail

[LTb1ow]

I fail. Explain?

[GP99GT]

Yea, why did they kick em? And what was with that evo stopping at the 1/8 to let you catch up?

no coolant overflow bottle.....pissed coolant everywhere. at least thats the story i heard

and that, i dont really know....but that EVO was fast as ****. and i couldnt get off the line today without spinning :-x 2.5 and 2.4 60 foots

[deadtrend1]

NOOOOO WAY!!!???!!!

Hows his super duper turbo setup

[LTb1ow]

That was that guy? He dumped a lot of antifreeze outside the staging lanes.... and yes, those evos were FAST. god damn.

[GP99GT]

that white one ran what, 9.80 at like 148mph?

that guy is lethalrides...you wouldnt know what im talking about

[LTb1ow]

No I mean like I saw that car before and then I saw it after it got kicked. And yea that evo made your car look like it was sitting still.

[Rich189]

but that EVO was fast as ****


If your talking about the white evo they lined me up with him at atco before and he was running more boost with i beleive an open down pipe and he was running much quicker and it took them 3 runs before they finally booted him from there.

and of course
Lethal FTL... shame we didnt get to see what his amazing turbo setup could do

[GP99GT]

No I mean like I saw that car before and then I saw it after it got kicked. And yea that evo made your car look like it was sitting still.

it practically was :lol: i need to get the trac-lok rebuilt and get the 3.55s in there...then i could probably click off some high 13s

[LTb1ow]

What was your best time?

[GP99GT]

What was your best time?

today was like a 14.8 at 96 something....:lol:

previous best is.....14.306 @ 99.53, before the exhaust/rockers...thats with a 2.179 60'

[LTb1ow]

I was tempted to get out there and run once but I got confused and ended up parking it.

[V]

did either of those evos say TurboTrix Racing?

[LTb1ow]

I don't think so... what happened to that honda? Did it blow?

[JL8Jeff]

They said a Honda oiled down the track and that was the delay before the rain came. That Evo was wuick, but manual transmission FTL! Every shift was like hitting the brakes.
-

[BonzoHansen]

Awesome pic Mr Fantastic.

[LTb1ow]

Slow shifts and all, they were like rockets it seemed. And that stupid ass, red rotary car pissed me off.

[Blackbirdws6]

Hahahahaha that's an awesome pic.


did either of those evos say TurboTrix Racing?

White evo had some AMS components from what I saw but didnt check under the hood.

Both evo's were damn quick. Blue one had a 2-step.

I was most surprised by that old red RX7 running 10's with a really stealth setup. Only when it took off was I like whoa that thing is moving.

Slow shifts and all, they were like rockets it seemed. And that stupid ass, red rotary car pissed me off.

You don't want to powershift AWD cars putting down any real decent amount of power like these were. You should have taken your car down the strip a couple times just to see where you are at. It sounded nasty(in a good way) on the cruise up.

[GP99GT]

yeah when i first saw that RX7, it looked kinda crappy....then i looked inside and saw the bars

[LTb1ow]

You should have taken your car down the strip a couple times just to see where you are at. It sounded nasty(in a good way) on the cruise up.

I was scared of breaking it, and since I live like two hours away, that would be a LOOOONNG walk home.... :wink: But I had never been to a dragstrip so I was kinda nervous of racing in anyway.

[V]

i broke my car at island once... right after i hung up after calling a tow truck, melissa handed me a beer, now thats hospitality. lol

[LTb1ow]

So did that red, rotary run again?

[GP99GT]

So did that red, rotary run again?

it ran a few times, never a clean pass though.....what a surprise

[LTb1ow]

I saw it once and after purging TWO N20 lines, it runs a 14 something. :rofl::rofl: And then the next time bangs out a 12 something I think....

[JL8Jeff]

The red rotary sounded like a loudspeaker breaking up. The Mazda RX7 was quick and pretty quiet.
-

[LTb1ow]

Did you guys see the mercedes that raced?

[Knipps]

Did you guys see the mercedes that raced?

Kasey took the Mercedes? :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

no, that CL AMG was hawt!! Ran pretty good, low 13's IIRC.

[enRo]

You DO know why they call him "Lethal Rides", right?

:rofl:

[SteveR]

:rofl: awesome pic! Prefect timing hahaha

[qwikz28]

You DO know why they call him "Lethal Rides", right?

:rofl:

because he left his child unattended at home while he came to island to not run?

[ar0ck]

I'm pretty sure he came in with someone.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k200/doctormikescott/d9739bc3.jpg

[maroman88]

i think it was his "WT" girl lol

[79CamaroDiva]

funny, thats emily's boyfriend throwing him off the line :lol:

To the people who don't know who i'm talking about, shes not a member, just shows up at a lot of the north functions with me.

[WildBillyT]

Lethalrides' car looks like Madness410's.

[Camvill]

that white 5.0 fox body was quick as hell too

[jims69camaro]

I was scared of breaking it, and since I live like two hours away, that would be a LOOOONNG walk home.... :wink: But I had never been to a dragstrip so I was kinda nervous of racing in anyway.

bah. what's the worst that could happen? drop the driveshaft? screw up the transmission?

funny how people are petrified until they get the first run in. then you realize that with street tires on, it's really just like running light to light. maybe a little more traction, but not all that much. you hear about guys breaking stuff once they get the sticky tires on... once the friction element is neutralized, the power has to go somewhere and it tends to find the weakest link in the chain to break.

seriously, unless you car is really tired, you have nothing to worry about running it at the strip. right, melissa? :mrgreen:

[79CamaroDiva]

seriously, unless you car is really tired, you have nothing to worry about running it at the strip. right, melissa? :mrgreen:


right, nobody has anything to worry about. stuff doesn't break.. :lol:

[LTb1ow]

I was worried about the rear breaking or something internal on the engine being as I built the top end myself.

[79CamaroDiva]

internally, if something was going to let go, it probably would have done it already, chances are you've had it up to 4k at least on the street, its only another 1500 rpm to 5500 (i'm guessing where you would shift an LT1, i don't know). racing on a dragstrip is only slightly harder on equipment than merging onto a highway.

And if something that you built broke, that means you need to build it better next time ;)

[jims69camaro]

And if something that you built broke, that means you need to build it better next time ;)

QFT. ;)

[GP99GT]

that white 5.0 fox body was quick as hell too

yeah, the notchback? it had a bigass single turbo....pretty slick setup. there was a black 05+ mustang there too, looked brand new....also turbocharged :drool:

[jims69camaro]

yeah, the notchback? it had a bigass single turbo....pretty slick setup. there was a black 05+ mustang there too, looked brand new....also turbocharged :drool:

are most of these guys running kits or are the setups 'home made'?

[GP99GT]

are most of these guys running kits or are the setups 'home made'?

the one on the notchback looked homemade, but you never really know...there are some nice kits out there for them

[LTb1ow]

yea that white one got off the line slow and then vrrrroooom and away he went.

[Tru2Chevy]

yeah, the notchback? it had a bigass single turbo....pretty slick setup. there was a black 05+ mustang there too, looked brand new....also turbocharged :drool:

Was that the one with stock rear wheels and fancy fronts? I saw / heard him roll in and commented that it sounded mild, but certainly not stock.

- Justin

[GP99GT]

it was the only notchback there...there was a white GT but he didnt run

[LTb1ow]

And then there was this really slow red mustang there too.... :lol:

[GP99GT]

And then there was this really slow red mustang there too.... :lol:

f you

if my posi worked and i had 3.55s....

youll see

[LTb1ow]

At least you went out and raced, I was to afraid.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

And then there was this really slow red mustang there too.... :lol:

At least you can hear it now :nod: And he hasn't sweated so much his hand slid off the shifter :mrgreen:

[Tru2Chevy]

it was the only notchback there...there was a white GT but he didnt run

I was referring to the black 05+...hence why it was in bold and underlined :razz:

- Justin

[GP99GT]

At least you can hear it now :nod: And he hasn't sweated so much his hand slid off the shifter :mrgreen:

first run that happened...missed 3rd again

and justin, reading > me

it was a stock appaearing black 05+, didnt notice the wheels....had a front mount IC that you could just barely make out behind the bumper

[project89]

actually the car has an overflow can the hose came off,but when it did the overflow drained since the inlet sits on the bottom of it.I still dont know the reason behind it, im assuming it happened when i hit the rev limiter at 7,700 in the burnout box at 22 psi.
I did a compression test in the pits and it all came up good.This did happen once before on the dynoso im assuming i need to switch to copper head gaskets and o ring the heads/block
and the white mustang wasa kit not a homeade kit

[sweetbmxrider]

copper head gaskets and o ring the heads/block
.....because your overflow hose popped off?

[project89]

everytime ive hit high boost int he car its pressurized the cooling system. ifi keep it under 17 ish pounds it dosent do it.i was gonna come back and make a pass at 16#'s but the rain put an end to that.
just to be sure im gonna go out tomorrow and set the boost at 12 psi and install a pressure gauge plumbed into the cooling system keep uping the boost to see if its blowing compression/boost into the cooling system.

ive got arp head studs and felpro gaskets on it, and if thats whats happening im gonna have no choice but to get the stuff o ringed and run copper gaskets

[ar0ck]

And the bull flows...

:popcorn:

[sweetbmxrider]

lethalrides2k3 - what happened to this username?

[project89]

And the bull flows...

:popcorn:

yeah lots of bull the hose was clearly hangin under the front of the car after the burnout :moon:

justin as actually retrieving my info for me since i dont have my old email

[ar0ck]

yeah lots of bull the hose was clearly hangin under the front of the car after the burnout :moon:

justin as actually retrieving my info for me since i dont have my old email

Have you ever made a successful pass? Have proof? Last time you laid out claims like this it didn't end very well.

[project89]

actually i have,onlylow boost runs though to break in the motor, 16 psi on the dyno 2 times, and 25 psi on the dyno but the pull was cut short due to the the sameissue of the cooling system getting presurised.

and this is also no were the same setup from 3 years ago
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/th_100_1346.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_1346.jpg)
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http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/th_100_1351.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_1351.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/th_100_1318.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_1318.jpg)

[project89]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/newest%20turbo/th_100_1385.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/newest%20turbo/100_1385.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/newest%20turbo/th_100_1386.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/newest%20turbo/100_1386.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/newest%20turbo/th_100_1397.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/newest%20turbo/100_1397.jpg)

[jims69camaro]

damn... :drool:

[project89]

that whole header setup is made out of 316l and 321 stainless, witht he exception of the crossover which isjust heavy wall mild steel,and a mild steel 3 inch downpipe out to the factory location precat.

my large turbo the t74 runs a 4 inch downpipe out to the same location,we came up on the small turbo though 52mm

[sweetbmxrider]

got any pics of the lt1?

[LTb1ow]

LT1 Ftw~!

[project89]

no just picked it up last week, its currently in my shop apart receiving a turbo kit, nothing big just a single front mount gt45 at 9psi.
Though it looks liek i may be backing that down to 6-7 psi, im being told by alot of lt1 ppl that right around 9/10 psi is were they start letting lose.I dont want to have to do anything internal with this one.

ill have pics as i start getting it all together

[LTb1ow]

Stock LT1 internals? Pushing more than 6 is on thin ice.....

[project89]

Stock LT1 internals? Pushing more than 6 is on thin ice.....
yeah its a bone stock lt1 im not gonna push this one to hard , i had a friend with a procharged lt1 running 9psi all stock but for some reason his fans failed to come on one day and he blew the motor.i just want something simple on this one im not gonna mess with it to much.
i have an ls1 longblock and a 4.3 vortec motor in my shop for the 89 for when i get tired of that 3.1, i just dont know which ill build for it.
If i had to do it now it prolly be the 4.3 vortec since i can run that motor on the mesgasquirt ems, if i wanted to do the ls1 id have to swap to an ford edis system which is not good for a turbo setup as the onlyway to do rev limits with edis is fuel based.My only other option is a full harness swap and hptunners,but the entire ms setup runs me 311$'s and i can tune alot more stuff then i can with hptunners as far as i know

oh yeah and 4thgen room = ftl
so much more room in a 3rdgen engine bay

[JL8Jeff]

Yeah, keep it under 6 lbs on a stock LT1. The ringlands are really thin on those pistons. I ran 4.5-5 lbs of boost on a Powerdyne for almost 5 years on my old 93 LT1 with no problems. I bought a 6 lb pulley but kept reading about guys taking out the pistons even at 6 lbs so I kept the 4.5 pulley on the supercharger. I think I put 40-42K miles on it with the supercharger so they can survive.

[Mike]

soo you say this is a different setup than 3 years ago, does that mean this one actually runs off both banks of cyllenders?

[sweetbmxrider]

soo you say this is a different setup than 3 years ago, does that mean this one actually runs off both banks of cyllenders?

ya know, i was reading his previous posts and kept finding references to this. never found the original thread though....:cry:

[Mike]

thats because the hillarity that followed the stupidity, got it deleted

[12secondv6]

soo you say this is a different setup than 3 years ago, does that mean this one actually runs off both banks of cyllenders?

:rofl:

Prediction..... BOOM!

[SteveR]

are most of these guys running kits or are the setups 'home made'?

Turbonetics makes kits for the 05+ Mustangs. I think they come in two versions, something like 460hp, and 550hp. Heres the link to the 550 one

http://www.jegs.com/i/Turbonetics/880/15168/10002/-1?CT=999

[project89]

soo you say this is a different setup than 3 years ago, does that mean this one actually runs off both banks of cyllenders?
if u cant see that fromthe pics then i wont even respond to that,and the first one did as well

[Mike]

nah man, i remember the old one not having a cross-over, and so do many people on here. so lets not try and play it off by saying i need to look at the pictures

[project89]

if u really belive the first one didnt have a crossoverur dumb, the way the whole first one was built it was impossible, itused an under k member y pipe conected to the stock manifolds or do i have to post pics of that as well.

i know what i told u guys i took the car out once with the incomplete ypipe the car was never actually run like that, i still have every original pic of when the entire system was built the first time around
u didnt see the crossover and u wouldnt have unless u crawled under the car

[Mike]

if you were using stock manifolds like you say, how was the turbo in front of the motor?

but, whatever you say, easy to come up with storys now that the old account is gone along with all the threads

[project89]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_0431.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_0421Medium.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_0423Medium.jpg

like i said under the kmember y pipe, the first one shows the caped factory y pip i took one out cause the pic washuge im resizing a few better ones and uploading them

[Mike]

and like i said, its easy to post pics now that everything old is gone.

[12secondv6]

:nod::nod:

[Mike]

btw, i hope the new setup has some better welds on it

[project89]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/blah/th_100_0652.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/blah/100_0652.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/blah/th_100_0644.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/blah/100_0644.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/blah/th_100_0639.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/blah/100_0639.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/blah/th_100_0638.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/blah/100_0638.jpg)

^^ click to enlarge to big to post as reg imgs

there u can see the downpipe out the ds running passed the caped y pipe, and the ypipe was used as the crossover


u mig weld to old rusted pipe and see what it looks like, the new **** is all tig'ed stainless with the exception of the mild steel crossover thats migged and thesame with the charge pipes, which is all being swaped out to aluminum charge pipes, and a 321 stainless crossover with vbands

[Mike]

its been 2 years, you can post as many pictures as you want, it wont change a thing.

[project89]

and heres the rest plain as day crossed over as it was being built
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/th_100_0440.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_0440.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/th_100_0433.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_0433.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/th_100_0434.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_0434.jpg)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/th_100_0439.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_0439.jpg)
i actually didnt give a**** when i did the first one it waslate on a sunday couldnt get new tubing and needed the car for work on monday so i reused some of the old rusted tubing from the stock ex system total invested first time around was about 800$'s

[Mike]

looks like you welded with the gas off

[project89]

no lol that fawking rusted dbl wall ex tubing was some nasty **** to weld to. and like i said i didnt care it wasa sunday i know i was sweating my ass off andi just wanted it done i wasnt bothering cleaning any of the pipes off i knew those welds would holdand they did, i neverhad oneof the welds break or anything . i did the entire first setup in 2 days if i remeber right.

besdieshow they look has no bearing on how strong they are look at the china manifolds and headers on ebay, those welds look perfect nice and clean but they break on every set of headers

[Mike]

yeah because they leave the welders set up the same way they do for bicycle frames, and the penetration isnt good enough for somthing hot like an exhaust system

[project89]

oh yeah and somone asked if the cars made a full pass this was second time out 5 or 6 psi. 0 boost launch and just over a 1,000 ft pass due to ping and knock on the top end .
daughters mom is driving the car
car was way lean with 13.2 afrs under boost and only 14*s of timing
http://px2.sfstatic.com/handlers/GetSizedVideoThumb.ashx?id=162838&w=120 (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/tunning-session-number-2_162838.htm?ref=1fa69928-6133-4752-8501-9a93000757b4)tunning session number 2 (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/tunning-session-number-2_162838.htm?ref=1fa69928-6133-4752-8501-9a93000757b4)

[LTb1ow]

So what did it run? And when you blow the LT1, I will buy the turbo off you.

[Mike]

if you watch the video it was 14.01 at 99

[project89]

car went 14.0 @ 99.79 on that pass very low 13's on a 6psi launch with a full out run on 6psi,car has made a bunch of low boost runs just to break in the motor, nothing to serious yet,weve loged 343 miles on it now besdies the dyno trips and few highway runs island would have been the first full out high boost run.

which after the hose incident for the second time wont happen until i can find out why im pressurizing the cooling system,tom im going to install a presure gauge taped into on of the coolant ports on the cyl head or block and take it out for a high boost run and see what it does. im really thinking that either i am lifting the heads,or blowing compression right past the fire ring on the head gasket.only other thing it could be would be a misaligned intake gasketbut then the car would run liek **** all the time

lol if i blow the lt1 i can use that turbo on the ls1 or the 4.3 vortec motor, though my t74 i have for the 3.1 is larger then the gt45

[LTb1ow]

You ran a 14 at 6 psi??? Something aint right.....

[Tru2Chevy]

You ran a 14 at 6 psi??? Something aint right.....

Why not? It runs 17s stock....

- Justin

[LTb1ow]

An LT1 car? or are you joking?

[Knipps]

no. he's talking about the turd gen V6.. have you been following the thread at all?

[project89]

An LT1 car? or are you joking?
lmao its a 120hp 2.8L v6 well i swaped in a 3.1L v6 (130hp iirc) lmao and its an 18 second car factory with an automatic,
it does go low 13's on 6 psi but only with a spooled up launch

[LTb1ow]

Oh I got confused, he was talking about an LT1 for a sec, and then I read his sig and figured the rest was about car #2. My bad.

[Tru2Chevy]

lmao its a 120hp 2.8L v6 well i swaped in a 3.1L v6 (130hp iirc) lmao and its an 18 second car factory with an automatic,
it does go low 13's on 6 psi but only with a spooled up launch

2.8 = 135 hp
3.1 = 140 hp

And either is capable of 17's stock with an Auto.

:)

- Justin

[project89]

2.8 = 135 hp
3.1 = 140 hp

And either is capable of 17's stock with an Auto.

:)

- Justin
thnx thats right the 3.4 is 160
meh most of the 3.1 guys have a hard time breaking 17.8 then again by now all the motors are all so worn out.when i firstpicked up the car with 70k on the clock it would only turn mid low 18's

[GP99GT]

you should quit messin around and go 90 degree

[project89]

the 3.8 motor has a single advantage its bigger,thats all .The 60* motors are stronger by design.look at the new 3.6 di motor 300 hp.id really like to see the 3.8 guys goto 8k rpms on a stock bottom end with the exception of arp rod bolts

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/th_100_1300.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_1300.jpg)
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[sweetbmxrider]

you could get a couple more cylinders

[project89]

you could get a couple more cylinders

lmao thats what the lt1 is for

[BigAls87Z28]

The HF V6 and the HV (which is now what the 2.8/3.1 is part of) are two very different engines. Just cause they share 60* angle doesnt make it better.
Just cause the Ford Mod motor is a 90* V8 doesnt make it as good as a LS1.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Daskinnyguy ran a 16.9 in the heat of an august afternoon with a bolton 3.1 v6 firebird....

[project89]

The HF V6 and the HV (which is now what the 2.8/3.1 is part of) are two very different engines. Just cause they share 60* angle doesnt make it better.
Just cause the Ford Mod motor is a 90* V8 doesnt make it as good as a LS1.
the di injected motor shares alot of parts with the older gen motors crank and rods canbe bolted in,no we have a source for forged crankshafts rather then crower for 1k.


but even staying in with the true series of bolton the 3500 factory heads are on par with $1,800 fully ported abbott heads for the 3.8 ported 3500 heads kill the 3.8 stuff,the only thing even better is the dohc stuff for the 60* motor but thats an assload of work to use,and also what the new di engines run.
guys have been puttin out 300+ na hp with the 3.1/3.4 na with the 3500 heads untouched

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/FlowData3.jpg

[bubba428]

o jesus....when I saw you were back it made me want to hide my 3.4 sig and deny I ever had the car....still pulling 10in on the launch? I hear those 3.1 pull sick wheel stands.

[project89]

maybe u should pay more attention and look around theres already pics of the car with wheels up,including video

[bubba428]

seen em....you do those rotary style launches

[enRo]

This thread is QUALITY! :knock:

[WildBillyT]

This thread is QUALITY! :knock:

Yep. One star.

[GP99GT]

stock is stock....who cares

90* = more torque by design

and, RPM does not = faster

[12secondv6]

and, RPM does not = faster

Ugh, you newb!

If you run one side of the engine to 8,000 rpm's and the other to 6,000 rpm's it will make more power.... the key is only ONE bank of the engine.

And then, add a turbo to the other bank of the engine.

Uber power!

:rofl:

[bubba428]

Ugh, you newb!

If you run one side of the engine to 8,000 rpm's and the other to 6,000 rpm's it will make more power.... the key is only ONE bank of the engine.

And then, add a turbo to the other bank of the engine.

Uber power!

:rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I can't wait to see how bad he ruins this LT1

[LTb1ow]

I can't wait to see how bad he ruins this LT1

:violin: Poor LT1....

[project89]

run 1

9 psi

launch 5 psi and spun (not a big enough burnout)
rt **** -.231
60'***** 1.94
330 *****5.561
1/8th ****8.615
mph *****80.44
1000 ****11.254
1/4 *****13.486
mph**** 101.19

car was way rich so we pulled some fuel

run 2
out of the hole 5 psi and spin again (pushed threw the brakes on the line)

rt ***** -.454
60 ***** 1.834
330 ***** 5.349
1/8 ***** 8.304
mph ***** 83.29
1000 ***** 10.851
1/4 ***** 13.008
mph ***** 104.65

9 psi both runs and the last run was still rich as hell but not as bad as run 1

tried to make a 3rdpass but they had shut down the staging lanes before we could hotlap the car


lil more tunning and remove the front end limiters and the car will be back into the 12.s low boost

this thing is headed for 11 second time slips with 18-21 psi on the small turbo

and yes this was on the to small 50mm turbo not the t74

9 psi of boost

VIDEO
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Lil-v6-camaro_184829.htm?ref=e10bd4f4-901f-4f53-b26f-6d50ab2e6f32


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/0917082257.jpg

[enRo]

Grats. Too bad your reaction times sucked gigantic donkey ****

[ar0ck]

I guess with a lot of useless hard work & dedication anythings possible!

[project89]

Grats. Too bad your reaction times sucked gigantic donkey ****

well yeah instead of backing off the throttle and haveing to respool the turbo,the second the car moved i just let go of the brake and went for the ride.car actually pushed threw the staging beams both times

I guess with a lot of useless hard work & dedication anythings possible!
usless work and dedication huh,cars only repaeating what it did 2 years ago before i broke the motor and swaped in a junkyard core.except this time around instead of needing 18-19 psi to go into the 12's it only needs 8-9 psi.

lemme guess next ull attack how much money i spent,or as u being a dickhead would put it "wasted".

total cost was under 1,100 bucks complete as the car sits, not bad for an mid 12's car(yeah mid 12's with no other changes other then getting the afr from 10.0-10.5-1 back upto 11.7-1 were they belong and putting 2-3 degrees of ign timing back into the motor) that can go about 11.50's once the boost comes back up,and high 10's with the large turbo


had i actually goten a run in at island at 25psi like i had the car setup for u would have seen first hand an 11 second pass but dont worry im going back to e-town after the swap meet for my 11 second slip.

and u can bet ur ass ill have the video to go with it

[V]

didnt eric have a 13 sec 93 lt1 that was basically stock?? lol

[jims69camaro]

didnt eric have a 13 sec 93 lt1 that was basically stock?? lol

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[12secondv6]

except this time around instead of needing 18-19 psi to go into the 12's it only needs 8-9 psi.

total cost was under 1,100 bucks complete as the car sits, not bad for an mid 12's car(yeah mid 12's with no other changes other then getting the afr from 10.0-10.5-1 back upto 11.7-1 were they belong and putting 2-3 degrees of ign timing back into the motor) that can go about 11.50's once the boost comes back up,and high 10's with the large turbo


had i actually goten a run in at island at 25psi like i had the car setup for u would have seen first hand an 11 second pass but dont worry im going back to e-town after the swap meet for my 11 second slip.

But.... it hasn't gone 12's.... so it is not a 12 second car, nor a mid 12 second car NOR is it an 11 second car.... and it AIN'T going to see 10's with just a large turbo.

At this point.... according to you.... it went 13.0 so it is a 13.0 car. Speculating is stupid.

[misterjuice]

this is an inevitability of an anomoly....ergo....vis a vis......it's not delivery, it's DiGiorno

[NJSPEEDER]

usless work and dedication huh,cars only repaeating what it did 2 years ago before i broke the motor and swaped in a junkyard core.except this time around instead of needing 18-19 psi to go into the 12's it only needs 8-9 psi.

Translation, two years and no progress

lemme guess next ull attack how much money i spent,or as u being a dickhead would put it "wasted".

total cost was under 1,100 bucks complete as the car sits, not bad for an mid 12's car(yeah mid 12's with no other changes other then getting the afr from 10.0-10.5-1 back upto 11.7-1 were they belong and putting 2-3 degrees of ign timing back into the motor) that can go about 11.50's once the boost comes back up,and high 10's with the large turbo

Translation, it doesn't cost much to run 13's but he could spend a bunch of money and get close to the times he claimed he was gonna run two years ago


had i actually goten a run in at island at 25psi like i had the car setup for u would have seen first hand an 11 second pass but dont worry im going back to e-town after the swap meet for my 11 second slip.

and u can bet ur ass ill have the video to go with it

Translation, the car didn't live up to the claims he made before, so he is going to make them again.


Face it man, no one is going to buy into all the smoke you blow until you actually get that thing down the lane is something resembling the ET's that you have claimed oh so many times. Theory is meaningless when it is time for action. Don't throw around numbers until you run them.

[qwikz28]

we're getting some nice cool air lately. get the car running well, take it to the track and prove everyone wrong :)

[project89]

we're getting some nice cool air lately. get the car running well, take it to the track and prove everyone wrong :)

oh i plan on it

oh and nj speeder the car has sat for just about 2 years,cause thats what happenes when u have a new born daughter.thats why i havent done a dam thing with it

[V]

im so lost on what car we are now talking about...

like im not trying to be a dick, but
if its the 95 z28... should be in 12s with a single bank turbo even.
if its the 89 3.bum, then i have to throw down the bullshi card on you claiming only $1,100 invested. /that claim.

[GP99GT]

i declare




that i like pie

[project89]

im so lost on what car we are now talking about...

like im not trying to be a dick, but
if its the 95 z28... should be in 12s with a single bank turbo even.
if its the 89 3.bum, then i have to throw down the bullshi card on you claiming only $1,100 invested. /that claim.
100 bucks for the turbo
50 for the wastegate
25 for the bov
headers made from spare tubing (free)
200 bucks in misc mandrel bends
311 for complete standalone system
150 for tq converter
200 in gaskets bearings and rings
150 bucks for the cam
25 bucks for the intercooler
and maybe another 50 in misc fittings

ok so 1,261 bucks

all machine work was free since i did it myself

opps for got the pistons so add another 100 bucks,anything else not lsited was either something i already had or free

1,361 $'s

[NJSPEEDER]

i declare




that i like pie



I like cheesecake

[V]

ah ok, thrown together with used parts and swap meet finds... yeah, thats quality


well since u saved alot, invest in this (http://http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG1474&N=700+4294924500+4294921541+4294877892+115&autoview=sku) , only 14 bucks NEW

[project89]

ah ok, thrown together with used parts and swap meet finds... yeah, thats quality


well since u saved alot, invest in this (http://http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG1474&N=700+4294924500+4294921541+4294877892+115&autoview=sku) , only 14 bucks NEW
lol i have one it just happened to have the line come off it at island
. i prolly pulled it off when i reached up under the front of the car to make sure the the clamps ont he intercooler pipes were tight.

turbo wastegate and bov were all brand new

theres nothign wrong with used converters, and the tubing i had for free was just all drops and unused and unused weld elbows.
the turbo/wastegate,and bov on the car ive been running for 3 years without problems

so really the only used parts were the intercooler and converter. and unless an interooler has a hole in it or is filled with oil etc it dont matter if the thing is brand new or has 150k miles on it it still works

so u can take that yeah quality **** elsewere

[NJSPEEDER]

Now you say it has been running fine for three years and only a few posts back the car had been sitting for 2 years, which is it?

You could save yourself a lot of the hassles if you would dispense with theories and great stories about parts pulled from trash cans.

[12secondv6]

*goes to get boots on cause the *****'s getting deep*

[project89]

Now you say it has been running fine for three years and only a few posts back the car had been sitting for 2 years, which is it?

You could save yourself a lot of the hassles if you would dispense with theories and great stories about parts pulled from trash cans.

thats all the same parts ive originally had on the car turbo wastegate bov intercooler etc

the shortblock and cam are new as are the headers

the car did sit for around 2 years once my daughter was born the car was pretty much parked at my shop,needed a better dd but the car still came out now and then but not a whole lot.usually just a cruise down tot he shore or something.

i havent run the car at the track again till just recently in the past 3 months

infact these pictures are form 3 maybe 4 moths ago

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/resized/100_1386Medium.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/resized/100_1380Medium.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/resized/100_1382Medium.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/resized/100_1395Medium.jpg

the engine sat on an engine stand for just over a year before actually making its way into the car

[project89]

first run mid 14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c0JsG2oL0g
put the car back away
then sometime later pull it back out and go 14.0
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/tunning-session-number-2_162838.htm
the just last week pull it back out and run the 13.0 with more tunning and and extra 3 psi

no changes to the motor or setup other then the 3 psi and tunning

[project89]

and the junkyard 2.8 i ran at island 2 years ago which was pulled 4 months ago for the new motor
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_1296.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_1297.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_1298.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/100_1299.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/resized/100_1398Medium.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/resized/100_1399Medium.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/resized/100_1384Medium.jpg

[LTb1ow]

Why not just get a real motor?

[project89]

Why not just get a real motor?

i have an ls1 sitting my my shop,dont have 5 grand to do the swap though
,though it may find its way into the lt1 car with a rmt turbo setup.

i am currently doing the rmt on that with the lt1 though was to much to do a reg front mount turbosetup on the lt1 way to cramped in the engine bay,i curse it everytime i want to work on it. 4thgen engine bay's ftl

the v6 rs will prolly never get a small block,having to much fun with the v6 in there,besides i got just about 32mpg with it on the way back from the nats and that was with the 4:10s and an unlocked converter.

at most when i max out this setup i may drop a turboed 4.3 vortec into the car.
but im gonna wait and see how expensive one of those direct injected 3.6 motors would be to drop in.though from what ive been told once u start making about 400 hp on those 4.3's u gota spend alot of money on aftermarket parts.and if thats the case i might as well just swap out the shortblock for a 3.4 v6 with a forged 3500 crank and a set of 327 sbc h-beam rods for much much less money

[Savage_Messiah]

Or you can go with a real engine and use a 3.8

90* > 60*

[LTb1ow]

Say what? Rear mounts suck. And just make your radiator vertical, lots of room then.

[project89]

rear mount may not be the best but its the simplest and the do make decent power.
Im not looking for a whole lot out of the lt1 car,and ive got parts laying around so i said fug it might as well turbo it.
rear mount will be more then enough for what i want out of it

[LTb1ow]

Well when you blow it, don't get another LT1.

[Squirrel]

didnt eric have a 13 sec 93 lt1 that was basically stock?? lol

unless a shifter counts as not stock then yes, stock lol...with over 140k miles no less

edit: it also looked like a 4th gen

[trashman01]

great, more internet ******** racing drama. how bout every1 gets off their high horse and give the guy a lil support for what hes doing? yes i kno he has made claims, how bout this, i have a 10 second lifted K10. ya'll gonna jump on my nutsack and want proof and ****** let the guy build his car the way he sees fit, and if it works, it works. damn

[Mike]

they are on his case because he came on here and talked **** to everyone about the car, then dosent show up again untill someone posts a pic of his car getting kicked off the track at the nats

[12secondv6]

how bout this, i have a 10 second lifted K10. ya'll gonna jump on my nutsack and want proof and ******

:orlyflag: pic's... video.... :rofl:

See above post from cbr.

[trashman01]

they are on his case because he came on here and talked **** to everyone about the car, then dosent show up again untill someone posts a pic of his car getting kicked off the track at the nats


everyone got on his case in the frist part cuz he was attempting to build a home made kit and keep it on the cheaper side. he admitted he didnt kno what he was doing at frist(hence the single bank turbo he built the frist time) i read bout a kid on a mustang site built one and used a blowmaster muffler for the carb hat for his turbo system. no flamed him for that. im just saying give the guy a break. least he trying to do stuff that i wish i could do. id love to make a homemade turbo kit for my K10

[LTb1ow]

So do it?

[bubba428]

you wont, no balls!!!


anyway...as far as i'm concerned he is an idiot...even if the car ends up living up to his fantasy, he's still a tool

[LTb1ow]

great, more internet ******** racing drama. how bout every1 gets off their high horse and give the guy a lil support for what hes doing?

Sounds like a tough guy.

[bubba428]

Sounds like a tough guy.

:rofl: its all fun and games until somebody kills every one

[LTb1ow]

I think my car can outrun his.

[bubba428]

I think after 15 runs a bicycle could

[deadtrend1]

i have an ls1 sitting my my shop,dont have 5 grand to do the swap though

If you already have the motor, then where does the 5 grand come from?

though it may find its way into the lt1 car with a rmt turbo setup.

ohh yea, cause thats so much cheaper, easier and more rewarding. That way you can have 2 cars with a half assed setup.

[LTb1ow]

Yea cept that LT1 won't last long on half assed.

[project89]

Motor has a slight rod knock so it needs a rebuild,also need a t56, bellhousing clutch,crossmember,and the rest of the **** needed to do the swap into a 3rdgenso it may not be 5grand but its gonna be dam close by the time its done.Be easier to swap it into the 4thgen car

the lt1 is already getting a rmt setup, so doing a motor swap would be easier in in regards to keeping it turboed

[LTb1ow]

So whats the LT1 setup compose of? A big turbo on a stock engine and prayers?

[deadtrend1]

Motor has a slight rod knock so it needs a rebuild,also need a t56, bellhousing clutch,crossmember,and the rest of the **** needed to do the swap into a 3rdgenso it may not be 5grand but its gonna be dam close by the time its done.Be easier to swap it into the 4thgen car

the lt1 is already getting a rmt setup, so doing a motor swap would be easier in in regards to keeping it turboed

cause you don't need new mounts, headers, the T56 and all the rest of the **** that you need to swap it?

Its honestly gong to be easier to put it in the 3rd gen but ... hey ... not my money/time

[project89]

Yea cept that LT1 won't last long on half assed.

a turbo dosent know the differenvce if its in the engine bay or rear mounted it still does its job.maybe not as efficiantly as a front mounted turbo but it still works. if it didnt sts wouldnt be selling so many kits.

my only concern with the rmt setup is that dam oil scavenging pump

the one thing that may change my mind is im about to do a turbo setup on a lsi/4l60e swaped 3rdgen gta, depending on how nice this all goes togther i may just change my mind on the ls1

the one im doing closely resembles this setup
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/street_driverside.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/street_manifold.jpg

[LTb1ow]

a turbo dosent know the differenvce if its in the engine bay or rear mounted it still does its job.maybe not as efficiantly as a front mounted turbo but it still works. if it didnt sts wouldnt be selling so many kits.


Yes, and? The pistons don't care where you stick your power adder.

[bubba428]

So whats the LT1 setup compose of? A big turbo on a stock engine and prayers?

:rofl: hahahaha yes...

dude your idea of easy is twisted and more or less retarded...I think your just intimidated by having 8 cylinders and bottom end torque. you know with GMs you don't have to cluster **** a turbo in to make real power, maybe you should get a 95+ mustang with a 4.6, they fit your idea of building engines. a half assed turbo set up would be right at home

[project89]

Yes, and? The pistons don't care where you stick your power adder.

im well aware of that i have no plans on pushing insane amounts of boost,its going to see 7-9 psi tops more then safe on an lti when properly tunned.

i have a friend with a procharged lt1 all stock running more boost then that and hes been fine.though he has been lucky so far but he still hasnt blown it up and he beats the hell out of the thing.then again he dont care cause when it does pop hes going with a forged motor as well

[LTb1ow]

Ok, so again, whats your setup compose of? Other than a turbo and a stock LT1.

[project89]

umm the gt45 i have is not as big as u think it is, its a 70mm turbo actually its just about the right size for what i want.u guys act like im throwing a 100+ mm turbo on this thing

[LTb1ow]

But thats not what I am asking...

[project89]

Ok, so again, whats your setup compose of? Other than a turbo and a stock LT1.


it will be a stock motor , intercooled and meth injection with low boost

but god dam u guys act like noone has put a turbo or supercharger on a stock lt1 or any stock motor before.and they blow up the first time u get on it

[LTb1ow]

Any upgrade to fuel system?

[project89]

what the hell do u think my v6 is, pretty much a god dam stock motor, ive only broken one of those and that was from detonation (cause i accidently threw 25* of advance under boost when i first installed my standalone).my brand new motor runs a cast piston.
u do not need forged internals to run boost.just dont let it detonate

[sweetbmxrider]

:shock: :popcorn:

[project89]

Any upgrade to fuel system?

no i plan on doing this all off the stock computer and injectors

of course im doing the fuel system, set of msd 50# injectors,aeromotive fpr, dual walboro 255's,and a megasquirt 2 standalone

[LTb1ow]

u do not need forged internals to run boost.just dont let it detonate

Really? I think a lot of engine builders would be out of work if that were the case...

[project89]

for the lil bit of boost i plan on running the stock internals will be fine,just gots resist turning it up.thats always the hard part.but i have the v6 for that,the lt1 is gonan be a driver plain and simple

[project89]

Really? I think a lot of engine builders would be out of work if that were the case...

u know what i meant, i have no plans on pushing this thing, if i did yeah then id worry about forged ****,and even at that it would just be a new set of rods and pistons to lower the cr some

7-9 psi on the stock **** is fine with meth

[bubba428]

WOW my brain hurts...I think you are going to demolish another perfectly good F-body...unless you plan on running 600+hp you don't need 50lb/hr injectors. When you get this abortion on the road call me...I'll race you with my 88 Saab, cause with your track record anything that can finish will win

[Mike]

:rofl: hahahaha yes...

dude your idea of easy is twisted and more or less retarded...I think your just intimidated by having 8 cylinders and bottom end torque. you know with GMs you don't have to cluster **** a turbo in to make real power, maybe you should get a 95+ mustang with a 4.6, they fit your idea of building engines. a half assed turbo set up would be right at home

hijack...............96+, 95 still had a 5.0.................hijack

[bubba428]

for the lil bit of boost i plan on running the stock internals will be fine,just gots resist turning it up.thats always the hard part.but i have the v6 for that,the lt1 is gonan be a driver plain and simple

WHAT!!!!! why in gods name would you boost a DD and run such an ineffecient fuel set up...where you dropped on your head or has V-tech not kicked in yet?????

[bubba428]

hijack...............96+, 95 still had a 5.0.................hijack

true my bad

[project89]

just cause u have a big injector in something dosent mean u have to use up all the injector

a set of 42's would actually be enough but since i have a set of 8 50#'s im not gonna waste the money and go buy a new set of 42's

[bubba428]

so your going to run the 50s at less than optimal duty, with less that optimal fuel pressure...you sir...have no business under a hood

[project89]

and how the hell is that ineffciant. so what the pulse widths will be kept low that dont make it inefficient

[LTb1ow]

He does have a point.

[bubba428]

yes it does...the injectors are going to end up out of sync with the valves and....you know what....how about this...you do what ever pleases you...after all it is YOUR car...but when it blows up...just buy a honda and give up

[project89]

so your going to run the 50s at less than optimal duty, with less that optimal fuel pressure...you sir...have no business under a hood
wrong will still be base fp and raised 1-1 with boost. pulse width is only injector open time it does not matter whether the injector is @ 10ms or 20 ms it still does the same thing. there is no such thing as optimal duty cycle,only max duty cycle and if ur anything over 90% u need new injectors i should be able to run these things at 60%

look at the guys running th efast gn's they all have 60#+ injectors and need nowere near that amount of fuel

[LTb1ow]

VTECH !

[project89]

yes it does...the injectors are going to end up out of sync with the valves and....you know what....how about this...you do what ever pleases you...after all it is YOUR car...but when it blows up...just buy a honda and give up
wow u really are a moron a batch fire system has no relation to valve opeing neways.

even if i ran it in sfi mode the injector will only open when its supposed to,(determined by a cam sensor) it dont care how long its open it still opens and closes when its supposed to pulse width has nothing to do with determining when an injector opens and closes. thats why the max pw is 25.5 msec or 100% duty cycle cause anything more then that and the injectors hangs open

maybe u should read up more on fuel injection and know what the **** ur talking about before u come try to start ****

[project89]

He does have a point.

who has a point lol

[project89]

oh and sfi systems convert to batch fire above 3k rpms anyway so try again

[bubba428]

haha wow dude...your talking about the V-6 fuel systems, we're talking about LT1 I think you need to really look over your ****. I know how the **** works...I custom built a fuel system for my 3.4 and I messed around with a buddies MS programing...you are GOING to **** up its gonna go lean and your going to melt the pistons...I know how duty cycle works, and i'm tellin you with the amount of boost your runnin and the size of the injectors its going to cause problems

I'm done with you...stop trolling or GTFO

[project89]

umm hello dumbass they run the same **** injectors and fi is the same.
like i said go read some **** and know wtf ur talking about running a low pulse width means nothing. it dosent affect a single dam thing

the only diff is instead of being open 20 msec its open 12 msec the injector still starts to open at the same time it would even with smaller injectors it just closes earlier

the only way it will go lean is if i **** up my fuel tables ms knows what size injectors are in the motor just like u would tune a stock pcm for an injector change

ive proved u wrong now stfu and gtfo

[V]

you do realize you are still defending yourself in a thread titled "GTFO" with a pic of your car getting booted off the line... no matter what u say... that wont change

[project89]

you do realize you are still defending yourself in a thread titled "GTFO" with a pic of your car getting booted off the line... no matter what u say... that wont change
yeah i know but im having fun making bubba look like a moron

[bubba428]

the more you say the dumber you look....you don't catch on to quick do ya