Header question...

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

I just got back from the mechanic and he basically told me that I might as well get a new set of headers because there welded to the collector and it would be a huge pain to fix the leak.

[LTb1ow]

And your question is....?

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Whats invloved or how much would it run to fix this? or should i start saving for the pacesetter Lts :lol:

[BonzoHansen]

Is the collector broken? you can probably repair it.

[LTb1ow]

Um well you may have problems with that, I would assume that the current setup is welded because its an LS1 in an LT1 car...

LS1 headers will prob not fit in the car without some custom Y pipe being made.
I could be 100% wrong on that, but thats what I would assume.

[L8APEX]

The k-member placement and floor pans of all 4th gens are the same. As long as it is the correct y-pipe for the LS1 headers, there should not be any reason to weld the sections together.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

The k-member placement and floor pans of all 4th gens are the same. As long as it is the correct y-pipe for the LS1 headers, there should not be any reason to weld the sections together.

Then i would assume it not....

[LTb1ow]

Not sure how the emissions are with it, is the car registered as a repower? I would assume the LS1 would easily pass a sniff test with LTs and a catted Y. But you will fail visual.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Not sure how the emissions are with it, is the car registered as a repower? I would assume the LS1 would easily pass a sniff test with LTs and a catted Y. But you will fail visual.
Huh? lol car already has a fresh inspection, I talked w/ the js guys think ima save up for some LT's, these mids are in some pretty bad shape anyway. Not my daily driver and as long as shes in good shape by spring im good.

[LTb1ow]

Well technically an LS1 only needs to pass the computer part versus an OBDI LT1 which is required to pass a sniff test.

[BonzoHansen]

Well technically an LS1 only needs to pass the computer part versus an OBDI LT1 which is required to pass a sniff test.

Not on a retrofit.

[LTb1ow]

Not on a retrofit.

Well thats what I was trying to get at....

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Not on a retrofit.

No tester honestly knows the engine differance in any 4th gen camaro, nor do i think they really care.

[BonzoHansen]

No tester honestly knows the engine differance in any 4th gen camaro, nor do i think they really care.

Right. So they would test the car like it was just an OBD1 car.

[JL8Jeff]

How much do you plan on driving the car? I would recommend stainless longtubes over coated if it will be driven a lot and in wet weather from time to time. But if it's just gonna be in nice weather then coated should hold up ok. I have the old XS Stainless headers on my car and I bought them used and they still look pretty decent. They are now call LPS I think. Nice 321 stainless headers. Does it currently have the EGR and AIR hooked up to the headers? If so and you plan to retain it then you need to know which year style LS1 AIR hook ups. I think the 98-99 were side to side hookup while the 00-02 were inline(or front to back) style flange.

[deadtrend1]

Whats invloved or how much would it run to fix this? or should i start saving for the pacesetter Lts :lol:

Don't buy pacesetters ....

[LTb1ow]

Porque no?

[deadtrend1]

Porque no?

I'm guessing you are saying why not .....

They are junk. Their armor coating sucks. I barely drive my LT1 and within a year they are rusted up to ****.

Go with stainless if you go longtubes. I would definetly hit up those LPP headrs on tech right now if i had spare coin.

[LTb1ow]

Mine seem to be holding up just fine. Guess I will have to wait and see.

[L8APEX]

Pacesetter headers can be a bit hit or miss. I have seen them fit fine, seen them hit the floor pan, and angle slightly down. More often than not, they are ok, but if you get bad ones it is a problem waiting to happen.

Stainless is a better idea than coating as others have stated. Think of coatings as paint, no matter how much prep you do or how good the paint you use is, eventually it comes off. Add the complication of heat cycling since it is exhaust and you can see why it doesn't last.

[sweetbmxrider]

No tester honestly knows the engine differance in any 4th gen camaro, nor do i think they really care.

orly

go stainless. go on ls1tech. they run specials and **** all of the time.

[LTb1ow]

You mean the stock manifolds aren't shiny metal tubes?

noooooo

[NJSPEEDER]

Go with American Racing Headers or Kooks. All stainless construction, merge collector headers, and lifetime warranties.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Right. So they would test the car like it was just an OBD1 car.

Yes sir

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

How much do you plan on driving the car? I would recommend stainless longtubes over coated if it will be driven a lot and in wet weather from time to time. But if it's just gonna be in nice weather then coated should hold up ok. I have the old XS Stainless headers on my car and I bought them used and they still look pretty decent. They are now call LPS I think. Nice 321 stainless headers. Does it currently have the EGR and AIR hooked up to the headers? If so and you plan to retain it then you need to know which year style LS1 AIR hook ups. I think the 98-99 were side to side hookup while the 00-02 were inline(or front to back) style flange.
I believe the headers on now have all the hookups. Yea man its only going to be a nice weather/weekend car. Most of the time it will be sitting covered. Yea I was looking at your post on tech about those ebay headers, you said on one of the posts that you got a tsp y to work? If so ill order them up..

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Yea if these headers cant be repaired I think im gonna pick up those stainless steel ebay LT's. I talked to a few guys on tech and they said that a pacesetter Y is a good fit. 175.00 for the headers and another 150.00 for the ypipe you cant beat it.

[WildBillyT]

Yea if these headers cant be repaired I think im gonna pick up those stainless steel ebay LT's. I talked to a few guys on tech and they said that a pacesetter Y is a good fit. 175.00 for the headers and another 150.00 for the ypipe you cant beat it.

Good price, but just be prepared to deal with crappy fitment.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Good price, but just be prepared to deal with crappy fitment.

Not from what im hearing...but ok

[JL8Jeff]

The Pacesetter y-pipe is either 2 or 3 pieces vs the TSP y-pipe which is either 4 or 5 pieces which may allow for more adjustment but also opens it up for more potential leaks. The other thing to consider if you plan to add dual cats is that the Pacesetter y-pipe has a couple of flattened sections and adding cats in those areas is a lot more difficult. You would want to get most of the joints welded up after making sure the fitment is good anyway. Just don't weld the y-pipe to the headers!

[NJ Torque]

I have a Pacesetter header/TSP Y combo... went on ok... is a 5 peice operation on the Y pipe.

Just do motor mount too.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

The Pacesetter y-pipe is either 2 or 3 pieces vs the TSP y-pipe which is either 4 or 5 pieces which may allow for more adjustment but also opens it up for more potential leaks. The other thing to consider if you plan to add dual cats is that the Pacesetter y-pipe has a couple of flattened sections and adding cats in those areas is a lot more difficult. You would want to get most of the joints welded up after making sure the fitment is good anyway. Just don't weld the y-pipe to the headers!

I wont be doing any of it, live in an apt. and have no tools. Yea I dont know why the original owner welded it. I talked to 2 guys on tech that said w/ the pacesetter no finaggling was needed at all...direct fit.