New GM Stuff

[BigAls87Z28]

I dont know if anyone has heard, but GM has now came out of Chap 11 court as General Motors Company, no longer General Motors Corperation.
GM Co is made up of Chevy, Caddy, Buick and GMC
It has a brand new board of directors headed up by former CEO of AT&T. The CEO and President is Fritz Henderson.
Bob Lutz, who was going to retire at year end, has been pulled out and given even more power.
Lutz now has total control of not only product development, he is now in charge of marketing and communication. I have read up that GM's marketing is actually more in control of what cars come equiped with then R&D do.
Example would be that the reason the Malibu doesnt have Navi is because Marketing doesnt think it needs it, not becaues they couldnt design for it.
Lutz now has total control over all angles of product development, marketing and how it gets to yoru eyes and ears.

Lutz just said that the G8 will continue here in the US as the Chevy Caprice. He also said that when he took the Auto Task Force around GM's development studios, the ATF fapped all over the CTS-V Coupe and that GM is tossing the idea around of a CTS-V Wagon.

It also looks like Lutz does not like the idea of an LSA powerd Camaro Z28. Thats good news. Z28 isnt dead, but its surely getting the true attention it needs to make it a true Z28.

[Knipps]

Lutz just said that the G8 will continue here in the US as the Chevy Caprice.
:w00t:

[Jersey Mike]

Yeah, I was watching the report on CNN yesterday. That was quick.
CTS-V Wagon is very likely, since the CTS wagon is in production.

would this be the body of the G8? I love the styling of the current G8 too much to see it live on through this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/2008_Chevrolet_Caprice_LTZ_(Kuwait)_01.jpg

[BigAls87Z28]

Yes, the Caprice will probably carry the Commodore's body style.
I would think that GM will wait for the revised Commodore, known as VF, till we see the Caparice.

And your picture doesnt work.

[Jersey Mike]

Al-
It should work now. Thanks for the heads up.

[BigAls87Z28]

Eh...that is the ME Caprice, based on the LWB version or "WM" chassis. It wont look like that.
If tomorrow GM was going to make Caprices, it would look like a G8 with Chevy nose.

[Jersey Mike]

^^ whew. That's good to hear. The G8 was definitely a grand slam.

[Knipps]

Eh...that is the ME Caprice, based on the LWB version or "WM" chassis. It wont look like that.
If tomorrow GM was going to make Caprices, it would look like a G8 with Chevy nose.
:dancing: So awesome, I was thinking of a G8 when I'm done with school but I'd actually have imported the Holden nose. I shouldn't have to now.

http://www.motorauthority.com/content/thumbs/h/o/holden_commodore_ss_v_main630-0331-630x360.jpg

[maroman88]

i <3 bob lutz!!!! no homo

[NastyEllEssWon]

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if they bring that out im buying one

[BurninrubberGT]

so whats this about pontiac being a part of the "new/good" gm but is still closing up shop? this mean gm is going to do something with them down the road? or just want to hang on to the name?

[Knipps]

Al, I think you may have misinterpreted the Z28 comment
http://blogs.automobilemag.com/6558678/car-news/bob-lutz-hints-camaro-z28-is-dead-again/index.html

[sweetbmxrider]

nice

[BigAls87Z28]

so whats this about pontiac being a part of the "new/good" gm but is still closing up shop? this mean gm is going to do something with them down the road? or just want to hang on to the name?

Pontiac is not part of the new GM. Pontiac is part of Liquidation Motors Co, the "bad" or "old" GM that is still in Chap 11.

Al, I think you may have misinterpreted the Z28 comment
http://blogs.automobilemag.com/6558678/car-news/bob-lutz-hints-camaro-z28-is-dead-again/index.html

Lutz never stated the Z28 was dead, but that an LSA Z28 wont happen.

[BigAls87Z28]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Lumina_SS_front1.jpg

if they bring that out im buying one

The US-Spec front bumper is a bit different, so the nose will probably look different compared to that, probably more in line with Chevy's newwer dual port grill.

[WildBillyT]

:w00t:

Sort of w00t.

Pro: Cool car that they have in their lineup
Con: You know you will see one on your ass with flashing lights...

Seriously though, it's great news. I want something on the G8's platform when I eventually get rid of the GTP.

[Jam]

sickness.

[Frosty]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Lumina_SS_front1.jpg

if they bring that out im buying one

If that's close to what it looks like I'll start selling drugs, my body, my sperm and my blood to get one :rofl:

[HeadlessNorseman]

Yeah i actually kind of like that aside from the rice-ish ground effects and vents. I liked the g8 in general. They should have never killed the rwd full size for police cars. Always wanted a gm rwd mid-size like the caddy catera(POS) or comparable to the 3 series. Will finally have it!

[Crayface]

If that's close to what it looks like I'll start selling drugs, my body, my sperm and my blood to get one :rofl:

If you start selling crack, just let me know

thx




lol j/k

[CamaroJoe1987]

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if they bring that out im buying one

im deff. likin that, looks mad good, i just hope they take off those ground effx, and stupid wing

[Knipps]

im deff. likin that, looks mad good, i just hope they take off those ground effx, and stupid wing
those aren't GFX on the front, that's molded into the bumper. Can you see my pic?

Nothing wrong with the spoiler either
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1975/163/59/1334580028/n1334580028_30272516_3369.jpg

[Blackbirdws6]

Glad to hear they will continue the G8 in a different form. Car is too good to just let go. Can't say I love the styling of the Chevy versions but if that makes parts more accessible then so be it. Good stuff.

[BonzoHansen]

the green & white cars look like mazdas

[madness410]

yeah the green and white cars look like mazdas

[BigAls87Z28]

Its amazing how people can like a car with a different nose, but then hate it with another...yet be exactly the same in every single other respect?

Anyway, if this car comes, it wont be sold to Police agencies. It wont have any fleet unless Police want to pay retail for one.
Caprice will probably sell 30-40k a year. Impala will continue to be the full size volume seller/fleet queen.

[Jersey Mike]

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if they bring that out im buying one

2F2F Cobalt?
c'mon now.

[Blacdout96]

LS7 Z28 Camaro? I know they were looking for an alternative for the LS7 because of it's costs, but my god if there is one thing I wish, is that they made the Z28 with the LS7 if they aren't going with the LSA

[NastyEllEssWon]

i dont like the pontiac g8 at all...nothing about the car appeals to me...the nose is just something that offends me. it looks too much like a bmw to be a pontiac...however the chevy front gives it just enough of that classy street fighter look.


id keep it exactly as pictured. spoiler and all. :nod:

[BigAls87Z28]

It wont look like that. It will have a larger nose and tail like the G8 has over the Commodore.

[Knipps]

larger nose meaning longer?

[Mike]

It wont look like that. It will have a larger nose and tail like the G8 has over the Commodore.

yup, gotta fit the usa spec safety equipment.....like al has said several times, it will look 99.9 percent like the g8.

[BigAls87Z28]

larger nose meaning longer?

Meaning as long as the current G8.

G8 has the US spec front and rear bumper, which does make the car a little longer then the Aussie/ME spec version.

But, thats if Holden were to start building Caprice's tomorrow.
We wont see this Chevy Commodore till the VF update shows up late next year most likely. VF will incorperate a lot of what GM learned with Camaro, along with what Holden learned from its customer base since 2007.
The VE will get a major revision this year for the Homeland, which will include 6spd auto transmissions for all but base fleet, 3.6 SIDI engine like in the Camaro, a 3.0 SIDI engine for fleet/base, along with some other tweeks.
VF will almost be a totaly new car. Major work is being done to thin the A pillars on the car, as well as cut the weight further since there is a growing focus for Greener cars. Next Commodore could be some 100-200lbs lighter then the current model, which could also trickle down to Camaro.

[Frosty]

If you start selling crack, just let me know

thx




lol j/k

Low grade crack? Please, who are you mistaking me for? I'm going for the pure coccaine. :rofl: