fram filters

[woodchip525]

hey, whats all the talk about fram oil filters being junk? ive used them for years on my regular cars with no problems. but im almost finished putting my new motor in my camaro and i start hearing all this stuff. if fram is not the way to go what is the filter of choice? thanks

[gotmudnj]

i use ac delco or puralator or however you spell it.

[SamhainZ28]

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html

theres a comparison between a couple of popular filters. Fram is teh suck IMO.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

ac delco or wix filter only !!!! unless you want to take the chance of that new motor being junk. no b.s. just trust the recommendation.

[unstable bob gable]

WIX FTMFW!!!!

[WildBillyT]

hey, whats all the talk about fram oil filters being junk? ive used them for years on my regular cars with no problems. but im almost finished putting my new motor in my camaro and i start hearing all this stuff. if fram is not the way to go what is the filter of choice? thanks

There is no question that Fram filters do in fact filter oil and do their job. Plenty of their stuff is in use. But there are many filter brands that do a BETTER job.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

I had a bad experience w/ one on my LS1...im sure I ran them on my dd in the past and never had a problem. I wouldnt reccomend them on a performance oriented car.

[sweetbmxrider]

i've run into issues with them before. simple issues but still, not something i'd expect to see so often

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

But it all comes down to why buy fram when you can pick up a 4 dollar acdelco at any autozone or advanced...

[WildBillyT]

But it all comes down to why buy fram when you can pick up a 4 dollar acdelco at any autozone or advanced...

Yeah, that's my point as well. I ran FRAM filters for a while, and when I switched to K&N I noticed my oil pressure fluctuating a lot less on the gauge. Not a big deal, but hey, enough for me to notice.

[SilverDropTop]

Another vote for K&N. I use them on my car and truck.

[FlyingDutchman]

i only run FRAM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U38ZdVFZIM).

[ZeroCool8891]

i never had a prob with fram, been using them for years.

[91chevywt]

This has been discussed here a lot. Fram is probably the crappiest oil filter you can buy especially for what you pay. For almost the same money you can buy a wix or napa filter of much better quality.

[EchoMirage]

delco doesnt make their own oil filters anymore. champ lab does. just because it says delco on it doesnt mean its the best for GM cars. it is NOT a good filter, and i would never use it on anything i own.

this has been updated with 2008 info
http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/reference.html#champion

[FlyingDutchman]

reading fail.

[BigAls87Z28]

There is no such thing as "AC Delco" anymore. AC Delco is like Duralast, Craftsman, Kenmore, etc etc...its just a label.

[Tru2Chevy]

i only run FRAM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U38ZdVFZIM).

http://kandn.com/images/l/RU-5168.jpg

j/k i use a k&n cone filter :lol:

You do know that this is about oil filters, right - not air filters?

- Justin

[7pointoh]

I use fram tough guard. No problems here.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

I use fram tough guard. No problems here.

Yea threw one on my gf's corolla the other day...so far so good.

[unstable bob gable]

Some lazy buttweezel sent his fat wife into Auto Bone yesterday, looking for a Quaker State earl filter. We don't carry Quaker State earl filters, so I told Queen Kong her lazy hubbski was SOL. So 3 chins Sally DEMANDS that I tell him so, and shoves her cell phone into my puss. The phone smelled like bacon, btw. Anywho, Mr Personality gets all huffy with me, and says "I JUST NEED AN EARL FILTER! I DON'T CARE WHAT BRAND!" So, I hang up on him, tell Ms Piggy she should also consider getting him some manners at the manners store, and git her a Fram earl filter so her fat azz can get back to terrorizing all you can eat buffets. Well, about an hour later I look out the door and think I see a low flying weather balloon, but it was just Fatty Patty rollin' back in. She then comes up to me and says "HE didn't want a Fram!" Wellllllllllllllll, I tell her HE shouldn't have said HE didn't care what brand then, and that I'm a 'lil sick of this drama. Why not cut to the chase next time and tell HIM to get HIS lazy azz off the couch and go pick up HIS own parts? So, I take back the Fram, and give her a top o' the line STP filter! :mrgreen:

Moral of the story? Even IDIOTS don't approve of Fram earl filters!

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Some lazy buttweezel sent his fat wife into Auto Bone yesterday, looking for a Quaker State earl filter. We don't carry Quaker State earl filters, so I told Queen Kong her lazy hubbski was SOL. So 3 chins Sally DEMANDS that I tell him so, and shoves her cell phone into my puss. The phone smelled like bacon, btw. Anywho, Mr Personality gets all huffy with me, and says "I JUST NEED AN EARL FILTER! I DON'T CARE WHAT BRAND!" So, I hang up on him, tell Ms Piggy she should also consider getting him some manners at the manners store, and git her a Fram earl filter so her fat azz can get back to terrorizing all you can eat buffets. Well, about an hour later I look out the door and think I see a low flying weather balloon, but it was just Fatty Patty rollin' back in. She then comes up to me and says "HE didn't want a Fram!" Wellllllllllllllll, I tell her HE shouldn't have said HE didn't care what brand then, and that I'm a 'lil sick of this drama. Why not cut to the chase next time and tell HIM to get HIS lazy azz off the couch and go pick up HIS own parts? So, I take back the Fram, and give her a top o' the line STP filter! :mrgreen:

Moral of the story? Even IDIOTS don't approve of Fram earl filters!
Had an stp on my dd, swapped it out on the last change yesterday w/ a puralator and some penzoil high mileage.

[Azmedian]

Ive never had a problem

[BigAls87Z28]

Fram regular and STP are both equally worthless.
Fram Tough Guard is, I belive, made by someone different then the standard Fram.

I think im gunna wait for the Castrol EDGE deal to come back. With the Ecotec cartridge filter, it really doesnt matter.

[LTb1ow]

I have a brand new Fram filter for sale.

[91chevywt]

Theres a lot of people who never had problems with ford pintos but that doesnt mean they're alright.

[unstable bob gable]

I have a brand new Fram filter for sale.

I'll take it if you give me a buck three eighty!

[LTb1ow]

Too much gas to get to the boonies that you call home.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Too much gas to get to the boonies that you call home in north jersey.





8-)

[EchoMirage]

fram makes tough guard. its just a different design, and the only fram worth using.

[Viking]

In 1989 when I did my first oil change on my new IROC, I used a standard FRAM and used nothing else since. Just turned 351,000 miles, original engine. If they were "crap", and "junk" my engine would have hand grenaded long ago.

[EchoMirage]

you can bang whores without a bag for 20yrs too. do you want to take that chance

[Viking]

you can bang whores without a bag for 20yrs too. do you want to take that chance

Sorry, not an apples to apples comparrison. :-?

[NastyEllEssWon]

you can use fram and not have any problems.



fram is fine for normal cars and driving but i wouldnt use it any type of performance application.....

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

you can use fram and not have any problems.



fram is fine for normal cars and driving but i wouldnt use it any type of performance application.....

x2.......

[sweetbmxrider]

so its ok for ls1's?


what about fram defense line?

[EchoMirage]

no. buy something else.

[Viking]

so its ok for ls1's?


what about fram defense line?

no. buy something else.

Here is the bottom line. No one is going to argue that a standard Fram is the best. Its not. There are prolly better filters out there. Investigate and go get one.
My experience however spans 20 yrs - and shows with 351,000 miles of data that the filter is at least adequate and does the job it was designed to do.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Here is the bottom line. No one is going to argue that a standard Fram is the best. Its not. There are prolly better filters out there. Investigate and go get one.
My experience however spans 20 yrs - and shows with 351,000 miles of data that the filter is at least adequate and does the job it was designed to do.




yes but with 351k miles not being the norm for these types of vehicles tells me that youve maintained your car very well or very rarely get on it.



as for sweetbmx....no frams arent good for ls1's...perfect for lt1's

[unstable bob gable]

what about fram defense line?


Fram defense line is about as good as the Giant's defence line was yesterday against the Saints...:mrgreen:

[91chevywt]

I think the point is that fram oil filters are pretty much the worst filter you can buy on the market, especially for the money. Yet they are advertised as being good. It has been proven that they use inferior components, compared to other filters on the market. You can get a much better wix/napa filter for damn near the same money.

The only thing Fram is good at is advertising. It's obvious where their priorties are.

[EchoMirage]

I think the point is that fram oil filters are pretty much the worst filter you can buy on the market, especially for the money. Yet they are advertised as being good. It has been proven that they use inferior components, compared to other filters on the market. You can get a much better wix/napa filter for damn near the same money.

The only thing Fram is good at is advertising. It's obvious where their priorties are.

this being said, why would anyone knowingly buy an inferior product, when better products are readily available for the same cost.