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09-18-2009, 07:26 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Woodbury
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fram filters
hey, whats all the talk about fram oil filters being junk? ive used them for years on my regular cars with no problems. but im almost finished putting my new motor in my camaro and i start hearing all this stuff. if fram is not the way to go what is the filter of choice? thanks
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09-18-2009, 07:27 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: sayreville, nj
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i use ac delco or puralator or however you spell it.
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09-18-2009, 08:03 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: barnegat nj
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ac delco or wix filter only !!!! unless you want to take the chance of that new motor being junk. no b.s. just trust the recommendation.
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09-18-2009, 10:41 PM
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American Road Warrior
Join Date: Jul 2005
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WIX FTMFW!!!!
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09-20-2009, 08:31 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodchip525
hey, whats all the talk about fram oil filters being junk? ive used them for years on my regular cars with no problems. but im almost finished putting my new motor in my camaro and i start hearing all this stuff. if fram is not the way to go what is the filter of choice? thanks
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There is no question that Fram filters do in fact filter oil and do their job. Plenty of their stuff is in use. But there are many filter brands that do a BETTER job.
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09-21-2009, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Browns Mills NJ/ Rotondo West FL
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I had a bad experience w/ one on my LS1...im sure I ran them on my dd in the past and never had a problem. I wouldnt reccomend them on a performance oriented car.
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09-21-2009, 07:14 AM
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Meet Coordinator
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Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
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i've run into issues with them before. simple issues but still, not something i'd expect to see so often
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09-21-2009, 07:54 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Browns Mills NJ/ Rotondo West FL
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But it all comes down to why buy fram when you can pick up a 4 dollar acdelco at any autozone or advanced...
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420 HP/367 TQ on a Unlocked Converter & still climbing.
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09-21-2009, 08:23 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
But it all comes down to why buy fram when you can pick up a 4 dollar acdelco at any autozone or advanced...
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Yeah, that's my point as well. I ran FRAM filters for a while, and when I switched to K&N I noticed my oil pressure fluctuating a lot less on the gauge. Not a big deal, but hey, enough for me to notice.
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10-08-2009, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Another vote for K&N. I use them on my car and truck.
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10-08-2009, 05:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NNJ
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10-08-2009, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Landing, NJ
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i never had a prob with fram, been using them for years.
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10-08-2009, 09:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NJ
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This has been discussed here a lot. Fram is probably the crappiest oil filter you can buy especially for what you pay. For almost the same money you can buy a wix or napa filter of much better quality.
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10-08-2009, 09:34 PM
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13 Second Club
Join Date: Feb 2007
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delco doesnt make their own oil filters anymore. champ lab does. just because it says delco on it doesnt mean its the best for GM cars. it is NOT a good filter, and i would never use it on anything i own.
this has been updated with 2008 info
http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar....html#champion
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10-08-2009, 09:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NNJ
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reading fail.
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Last edited by FlyingDutchman; 10-09-2009 at 11:25 AM.
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10-08-2009, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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There is no such thing as "AC Delco" anymore. AC Delco is like Duralast, Craftsman, Kenmore, etc etc...its just a label.
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10-09-2009, 10:32 AM
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Co-Founder / Site Admin
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Location: Ewing, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97camaro
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Originally Posted by 97camaro
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You do know that this is about oil filters, right - not air filters?
- Justin
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10-09-2009, 11:01 AM
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LSwhatever
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Belcamp, MD
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I use fram tough guard. No problems here.
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10-11-2009, 04:38 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Browns Mills NJ/ Rotondo West FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 7pointoh
I use fram tough guard. No problems here.
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Yea threw one on my gf's corolla the other day...so far so good.
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AI HCR 241's , Lunati 223/236 .615/.626 114+2 , Full Exhaust , Ported Fast 92 , Ported LS2 TB , Veraram , 85mm MAF , Circle D 4000 , 3.42's , GTP 36# , CSP Dyno tune. More on the way
420 HP/367 TQ on a Unlocked Converter & still climbing.
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10-12-2009, 07:20 PM
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American Road Warrior
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wastelands of NJ
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Even idiots don't like Fram...
Some lazy buttweezel sent his fat wife into Auto Bone yesterday, looking for a Quaker State earl filter. We don't carry Quaker State earl filters, so I told Queen Kong her lazy hubbski was SOL. So 3 chins Sally DEMANDS that I tell him so, and shoves her cell phone into my puss. The phone smelled like bacon, btw. Anywho, Mr Personality gets all huffy with me, and says "I JUST NEED AN EARL FILTER! I DON'T CARE WHAT BRAND!" So, I hang up on him, tell Ms Piggy she should also consider getting him some manners at the manners store, and git her a Fram earl filter so her fat azz can get back to terrorizing all you can eat buffets. Well, about an hour later I look out the door and think I see a low flying weather balloon, but it was just Fatty Patty rollin' back in. She then comes up to me and says "HE didn't want a Fram!" Wellllllllllllllll, I tell her HE shouldn't have said HE didn't care what brand then, and that I'm a 'lil sick of this drama. Why not cut to the chase next time and tell HIM to get HIS lazy azz off the couch and go pick up HIS own parts? So, I take back the Fram, and give her a top o' the line STP filter!
Moral of the story? Even IDIOTS don't approve of Fram earl filters!
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1991 Dodge Spirit R/T: Gran'pa lookin' 150+ mph turbo rocket.
2013 Dodge Avenger RT: Wastelands cruiser.
2008 Crown Vic Police Interceptor: 'Nuff said!
THE ONLY THING THAT SUCKS WORSE THEN IMPORTS ARE RICED OUT IMPORTS!!!
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10-12-2009, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Browns Mills NJ/ Rotondo West FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unstable bob gable
Some lazy buttweezel sent his fat wife into Auto Bone yesterday, looking for a Quaker State earl filter. We don't carry Quaker State earl filters, so I told Queen Kong her lazy hubbski was SOL. So 3 chins Sally DEMANDS that I tell him so, and shoves her cell phone into my puss. The phone smelled like bacon, btw. Anywho, Mr Personality gets all huffy with me, and says "I JUST NEED AN EARL FILTER! I DON'T CARE WHAT BRAND!" So, I hang up on him, tell Ms Piggy she should also consider getting him some manners at the manners store, and git her a Fram earl filter so her fat azz can get back to terrorizing all you can eat buffets. Well, about an hour later I look out the door and think I see a low flying weather balloon, but it was just Fatty Patty rollin' back in. She then comes up to me and says "HE didn't want a Fram!" Wellllllllllllllll, I tell her HE shouldn't have said HE didn't care what brand then, and that I'm a 'lil sick of this drama. Why not cut to the chase next time and tell HIM to get HIS lazy azz off the couch and go pick up HIS own parts? So, I take back the Fram, and give her a top o' the line STP filter!
Moral of the story? Even IDIOTS don't approve of Fram earl filters!
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Had an stp on my dd, swapped it out on the last change yesterday w/ a puralator and some penzoil high mileage.
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AI HCR 241's , Lunati 223/236 .615/.626 114+2 , Full Exhaust , Ported Fast 92 , Ported LS2 TB , Veraram , 85mm MAF , Circle D 4000 , 3.42's , GTP 36# , CSP Dyno tune. More on the way
420 HP/367 TQ on a Unlocked Converter & still climbing.
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10-12-2009, 08:29 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bayonne, NJ
Posts: 69
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Fram is ok With me
Ive never had a problem
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10-12-2009, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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Fram regular and STP are both equally worthless.
Fram Tough Guard is, I belive, made by someone different then the standard Fram.
I think im gunna wait for the Castrol EDGE deal to come back. With the Ecotec cartridge filter, it really doesnt matter.
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10-12-2009, 10:37 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
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I have a brand new Fram filter for sale.
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