Turnpike series

[baddest434]

bring it phillies :lol: should be a great series. i hope it goes 7

[LTb1ow]

Football?

[BigAls87Z28]

YEAHHHHHHH Amazing set guys...really amazing.
Take it to game 6 so we can win it at the new house. The house that Jeter Built.

[BigAls87Z28]

STOP WITH THE STUPID QUESTIONS!!
WTF is wrong with you guy? "way to bring up a negitive first..."

[NastyEllEssWon]

or maybe he meant the fact that NY plays Philly this week in both sports :wink:

[baddest434]

STOP WITH THE STUPID QUESTIONS!!
WTF is wrong with you guy? "way to bring up a negitive first..."

that was great. and matt your a idiot :lol:

[Mike]

lets compare rosters.......

sabathia vs. lee. PUSH
burnett vs. hamels BURNETT unless hamels wakes up, then push
pettite vs. pedro? PETTITTE

teixeria vs. howard PUSH thanks to tex's glove (if his bat heats up to even his "average" he will pull ahead here)

cano vs. utley ill give this one to utley (its close) UNLESS he keeps throwing like knoblock

jeter vs. rollins this would have gone to rollins, but jeter is having the season and post season of his life, and only gets better under pressure

arod vs. feliz. LOL Arod is having the post season of his life, this isnt even a debate.

posada vs ruiz. not a debate

ill give all three outfield positions to the phils in tight ones

yankees take it in the bullpen and bench departments

and

mo OWNS lidge

[Savage_Messiah]

Nov 1st, bye bye philadelphia

[Mike]

Nov 1st, bye bye philadelphia

eagles giants in the linc

phils yanks in cbp

and a peal jam concert

:shock::shock::shock:

[BigAls87Z28]

Jeter vs anyone, there is no contest. Aybar was about the closest anyone could have gotten.
I really hope that Jeter's name gets pinned to the stadium, and not ARod.

[69BirdX]

Go phils!

[Squirrel]

phils in 6... no biggie

[BigAls87Z28]

Bwahahahahahaha phillyin 6!?!?aaahahahah

[NastyEllEssWon]

youre gonna look real stupid while watching another ticker tape parade in Philly

[Frosty]

It's going to be a GREAT series.

Al, I wouldn't be so cocky, the Spankees almost got swept in their custom built Jeter house this year by the lowly Phils. Granted it was one series, early in the year but please don't be the typical arrogant NY fan.

I can't wait...this is going to be a great series. It's going to come down to pitching, plain and simple. Aside from a Game 2 slip up the Phillies bullpen has been rock solid, shocking considering they had a tough time all year. Both lineups are stacked. Both teams know how to win, both teams know how to win in the playoffs. Ughhh, why can't it start tomorrow, lol.

Mike, your player vs. player break down is pretty dead on aside from the Posada vs. Ruiz "no contest". Ruiz has been on fire the entire playoffs. The only real weak spot is Ruiz...he's been struggling aside from the bomb he hit in the LA series.

[sweetbmxrider]

my dad and bro were at the game last night, they said it was great. i'm goin to philly for halloween, maybe i'll be matsui :lol:

[Frosty]

i'm goin to philly for halloween, maybe i'll be matsui :lol:

His next thread will be posted from the hospital...:moon::rofl::mrgreen:

[NastyEllEssWon]

His next thread will be posted from the hospital...:moon::rofl::mrgreen:





:nod::lol::rofl:

[Mike]

dont let them bring you down adam, ill go with you.....i can be..... jemarcus russel

[Frosty]

Ouch. BTW, how'd the Giants do last ni....never mind. I'll let you Giants fan be, you'll eventually realize the Giants aren't a great team. :lol:

[NastyEllEssWon]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i125/Jsaul83/jalolrus.jpg?








haha there ya go. just in time for halloween. get your JaLOLrus costumes early!!!!

[Frosty]

I don't know why but that pic is f'in funny lol

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl: at everything

[Savage_Messiah]

Ouch. BTW, how'd the Giants do last ni....never mind. I'll let you Giants fan be, you'll eventually realize the Giants aren't a great team. :lol:


Nov 1.

[Frosty]

Is that the day you get your green card?

ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

[baddest434]

an east coast world series. what could be better?

[sweetbmxrider]

national topless day. though that could have some saggy drawbacks....

[baddest434]

national topless day. though that could have some saggy drawbacks....

:rofl: yes it could!!!

[Frosty]

an east coast world series. what could be better?

The Yankees getting the swine flu...........

[baddest434]

:rofl: i think swisher, posada and matsui already have it. thankfully a-rod was not his usual do nothing in the playoffs and C.C. was great or we might me watching the phils and angels. plus the angels just played bad baseball!

[Savage_Messiah]

The Yankees getting the swine flu...........

so that you guys have a hope?

[Frosty]

Yeah because it's going to be a cakewalk for either team. :rolleyes: Typical know-nothing arrogant NY fan.

:waits for the Nov. 1 rebuttal.

:D:D:D:D

[JL8Jeff]

It should be a good World Series as these teams look pretty evenly matched up. And you have the 2 ballparks with the most homeruns hit all year!

[baddest434]

lets hope the weather cooperates tonight :mrgreen:

#1 and #2 teams in homeruns in a park that the ball just flies out of, should be interesting series

[Mike]

yankees.com says sloppy but playable, they are predicting starting on time as well

not just homeruns, the number 1 teams in offense in their respective leagues, in the 2 highest run producing parks.

gonna be an interesting counter balance to the 2 quality pitching staffs.



all rooting interests put aside, this should be one of the best world series in a while

[Frosty]

Yeah lets hope the weather is tolerable. I really can't wait for this series. Finally, the World Series is sporting the best 2 teams in baseball, there's no debating that. I'm worried about Lee tonight, he doesn't have good numbers against the Yanks, we'll see....

[NastyEllEssWon]

phillieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

[Squirrel]

sucks that the over is gonna be jacked, gonna be hard to call

[Firebird67dude]

Go phils!

x2. haha

[BigAls87Z28]

Yikes...that was scary, but way to get out. Cant let the Phillies load em up like that.

[baddest434]

lee is on fire tonight. and 2 bombs by utley oh boy!!!

[LTb1ow]

Philly ftw

[JL8Jeff]

Good game so far but it's far from over! I thought we might have a pitching battle like the Pedro/Padilla game.

[BonzoHansen]

Lee is dealing.

edit#2: ****, Marte. Game over.


edit#3: jesus christ, behind his back? it's just his night, new game tomorrow.

[Frosty]

Don't fret Yankees fans, this is going to be a long series I think. There's no way they'll get dominated again like they did tonight. If they do, well...then good for us. :D

At least hopefully tonight the Phillies earned some respect from some idiot NY fans and the media.

[BonzoHansen]

It's all about AJ tomorrow night.

[JL8Jeff]

I hope Pedro can put together a similar performance. The Phils are very patient batters and find the right pitch to hit. CC was too wild at the beginning of the game and that shortened his time. That's what the Phils do to good pitchers.

[Frosty]

It's all about AJ tomorrow night.

After seeing his playoff stats for this year...I wouldn't be too hopeful lol.

I hope Pedro can put together a similar performance. The Phils are very patient batters and find the right pitch to hit. CC was too wild at the beginning of the game and that shortened his time. That's what the Phils do to good pitchers.

Really aside from the first inning and the 2 mistakes to Chase CC was fine. He let that fastball tail over the meat of the plate twice....after that he settled down and pitched pretty decent.

[BonzoHansen]

Yeah Jeff, they didn't hit Sabathia. Utley hit Sabathia.

[JL8Jeff]

Yeah Jeff, they didn't hit Sabathia. Utley hit Sabathia.

I know, I didn't say they hit CC, they made him throw too many pitches which forced the bullpen. They hit the bullpen well. CC pitched a good game after the 1st inning other than the 2 pitches to Utley. But wow, Lee pitched an awesome game!

[Mike]

lee was almost perfect, utley was almost perfect, yankee bats were asleep, and it still took a bullpen implosion to make it a lock for the phils. this is gonna go at least 6...

[Frosty]

A bullpen implosion to make it a lock? The Yankees never got anyone passed 2nd base IIRC, 2-0 was still a lock with Lee going all 9.

Game 2 is going to be interesting. Pedro is going to either be lights out like he was in Game 2 of the NLCS or he's going to get shelled.

[Mike]

A bullpen implosion to make it a lock? The Yankees never got anyone passed 2nd base IIRC, 2-0 was still a lock with Lee going all 9.

Game 2 is going to be interesting. Pedro is going to either be lights out like he was in Game 2 of the NLCS or he's going to get shelled.

so if it was still 2-0 going into the 9th and they brought lidge in you would have been confident?

[Frosty]

Yes. Lidge has been himself in the playoffs. I'm not worried about Lidge, actually I'm not worried about the bullpen. They've been back to their old selves since the playoffs started aside from Game 2 against LA. They're going to give up runs most likely, they're playing NY....but am I going to get scared if/when they come into the game tomorrow night? Nope. The media is making it a bigger deal than it is. They've pitched almost perfectly since the post season started. The regular season is a completely different story, but this isn't the regular season.

The Yankees are who they are, I get nervous with most of their lineup but it is what it is. If they Yankees score then they score, I don't see a bullpen implosion from either team really. The Yankees bullpen issues tonight will be an isolated incident, and if you think about the game it didn't really have any impact on it.

[NastyEllEssWon]

phillies played great baseball. lee was awesome.

[Slow-V6]

Go Phillies!!

[BigAls87Z28]

CC and Lee both pitched great games. CC did leave that fastball...twcie...over the center of the plate. One time? Ok. Second time? After he was winging at that cutter like a 10 year old? ugh...pissed me off.
Should have put Coke in instead of Huggies. Marte should be filling up rosin bags or something...ugh

[Stupercharged]

GO YANKEES! I hope they're bullpen learned how to pitch over night.

[baddest434]

GO YANKEES! I hope they're bullpen learned how to pitch over night.

their bullpen has been pitching very good the whole 2nd half of the season.
the bullpen did not blow last nights game it this simple.. LEE was GREAT

[BonzoHansen]

their bullpen has been pitching very good the whole 2nd half of the season.
the bullpen did not blow last nights game it this simple.. LEE was GREAT

BUT...the pen has blown chunks in the post season, except Mr Rivera. If the pen does not improve ASAP this may not end well.

[JL8Jeff]

Both pitchers look to have good stuff already. Could be a similar game to last night.

[NastyEllEssWon]

what a catch!!!! showing a-rod how a diving catch is done :mrgreen:

[JL8Jeff]

I can't believe AJ keeps throwing fastballs for a strike on the first pitch and the Phils still aren't swinging at it! :shock:

[Frosty]

What a great game so far.

[baddest434]

chop suey :mrgreen:

great game so far is right!

[JL8Jeff]

Burnett's breaking stuff has been great. Pedro made 1 mistake to Tex and Matsui made a great swing on a great pitch!

[Frosty]

It's like the roles have been reversed from Game 1 and Game 2. The game isn't over yet though.

[Frosty]

I think the umps just blew a call there....

[JL8Jeff]

I think the umps just blew a call there....

Yeah, big time!

[BonzoHansen]

Ya think??

[Frosty]

I can see how the 1st base ump called that a catch but how/why did no other ump overrule him? :confused:

[Frosty]

Wow, pretty wide open strike zone there on Utley.

Nice double play, that's probably the game there.

[BonzoHansen]

HOF pitchers historically earn wide strikes.

[JL8Jeff]

Wow, pretty wide open strike zone there on Utley.

Nice double play, that's probably the game there.

You mean nice make up call. Utley was safe but no way that really makes up for the blown call earlier.

[BigAls87Z28]

I love the cheap slide by Victorino. I mean...just off the bag, ok. But 3-4 ft off the damn thing, right at Jeter? Cheap

[BonzoHansen]

no, good hard play. stop crying

[Frosty]

I love the cheap slide by Victorino. I mean...just off the bag, ok. But 3-4 ft off the damn thing, right at Jeter? Cheap

You don't watch much baseball do you? :lol: Seriously, that type of play happens every game.

Well here goes nothing...9th inning....it'll be 1-2-3 :rofl:

[Frosty]

HOF pitchers historically earn wide strikes.

****in' Christ, you can say that again........

[LTb1ow]

I think I could friggen ump this game. Geez.

[BonzoHansen]

Mr Howard with the golden sombrero

[Frosty]

Well it looks like we have a series on our hands, good game by the Yankees. The next 3 in Philly should be good.

Hopefully the Phillies won't leave as many runners in scoring position stranded.

[BonzoHansen]

Ha ha, Matt Stairs vs Mariano. It's the punch & judy guy on deck that worried me, those are the guys that get slap hits off him. Not the softball players.

I guess I'll be watching games in Vegas!

[JL8Jeff]

Good game despite the bad calls. Phils didn't deserve to win since they couldn't put the ball in play.

[baddest434]

You mean nice make up call. Utley was safe but no way that really makes up for the blown call earlier.

thats just what it was. because utley diffenitely was safe.

so now we have a best of 5 series with philly having the advantage.

[BonzoHansen]

lol, booing hamels. how soon they forget!

[Frosty]

He should be boo'ed, he's had a **** season. We don't sugar coat crap here. If you suck we let you know, lol.

[BonzoHansen]

geez, they got no ring last year w/o him. and people say ny fans are rough, lol

a-rod with a hr and that out was on the button. :)

[baddest434]

:w00t: pettite with an rbi single

[Frosty]

I wouldn't boo him but he's had a rough year...and an even worse playoffs. I would even venture to say that if you COULD'VE put him in the bullpen he would've been there. You can't do that with him like you can with Happ or Blanton.

As far as A-Rod's HR...at least replay came in handy and they got it right.

[Frosty]

Game over :rofl:

[BurninrubberGT]

yanks got this game tonight

[Frosty]

I love it, I hope they score another 25 runs. When it rains it pours...I just don't get how pitching can just be so off on a night...from everyone. Ughhh

[Frosty]

Tomorrow night is a must win, definitely don't want to go down 3-1 to them. The series will be tied up tomorrow night.

[BigAls87Z28]

Bats came alive tonight for the Yanks. Once they get a hold of you, its ugly.
Good job by Andy, and awesome RBI. I like how Jeter damn near lapped him!

[baddest434]

looking good :wink:
NY will win tommorrow

[NastyEllEssWon]

i think the ball a-hole hit would came down and hit under the top of the fence if the camera wasnt in the way. shouldve been ruled the same as fan interference but i understand why the call was made....especially in the world series.





see you guys (Giants and Yankees) in philly tomorrow :nod:

[Frosty]

Nah, it was a home run, they made the right call. If that camera wasn't there the ball still would've cleared the fence...not by much but it still would've cleared.

Game 4 is a must win.

[LS1Hawk]

Bats came alive tonight for the Yanks. Once they get a hold of you, its ugly.
Good job by Andy, and awesome RBI. I like how Jeter damn near lapped him!

Lol, yeah. And what's with Andy and wearing a jacket on the bases? Anytime he's hit in the postseason and get's on base the jacket comes on :lol:

[baddest434]

Nah, it was a home run, they made the right call. If that camera wasn't there the ball still would've cleared the fence...not by much but it still would've cleared.

Game 4 is a must win.

the right call was made. just barely would have cleared the fence.

what has happened to ryan howard? 3 more k's last night. 9 out of 13 AB have been k's. is he the phillies version of a-rod. he's to good to hold down every game.

in fact the whole philly line up is just full of power. i'm an AL fan and don't follow the NL stats to much but hell i did'nt relize how potent the phillies line up is.

good luck tonight you need this game bad!

[BonzoHansen]

Lol, yeah. And what's with Andy and wearing a jacket on the bases? Anytime he's hit in the postseason and get's on base the jacket comes on :lol:

Pitchers always do that, esp in the cold and rain. Hamels had one on too when he got on, in case you missed that.

[JL8Jeff]

Yanks had a lot of bloop hits but they had them at the right time. I knew Hamels couldn't make it through 4 innings without giving up a homerun. I said they should have put him in the bullpen and starte Happ before the series started. I don't care who you are, the object is too win and he's not getting the job done. Phils lefties looked like minor leaguers swinging at all those curve balls out of the strike zone. I think I'll be at the game tonight if my dad can't go because of a cold.

[deadtrend1]

NBC 10 news was talking about the World Series ...

and they showed a program salesman going "Get your office world series programs, filled with lots of pictures .. and no big words if your from New York!"

:)

[bubba428]

I hate Philadelphia. all of my friends are Philly fans. I can't wait for them to lose so i can badger all of them. especially the ones that post facebook updates every ****ing inning and its just random letters with a "go Phillies" and refer to the team as "we". I just wanna slap the **** outta these people.

[Frosty]

Go back to drinking your Natty Light Bubba. :D

[Frosty]

****, that's probably it. Kudos to the Yankees. Here's hoping that I'm wrong. Just think, if Rollins and/or Victorino could get on base this game would've been over...these solo home runs are great you need men on base when your big bats come up.

[Frosty]

OK, now it's over....****.

I really hate when a closer is in for a non-save situation.

[baddest434]

ouch that hurts!

[bubba428]

Go back to drinking your Natty Light Bubba. :D

thats gross dude. I drink wild turkey

[Frosty]

thats gross dude. I drink wild turkey

Not sure which one is worse lol

[Mike]

so..... does lidge get a ring no matter which team wins?

[bubba428]

MUHAHAHAHAHA I love watching philly FAIL.

[bubba428]

Not sure which one is worse lol

well 80 proof wild turkey is pretty gross but 101 is really smooth and its just freaking TASTY

[Frosty]

You don't even like sports Bubba...please leave the thread...go back to drinking your moonshine and ****ing your sister...kthnxbye(kidding)

Mike, no kidding. Madson should have stayed in, Manual does that a lot...putting a closer in during a non-save situation....f'in drives me nuts.

[Mike]

girardi does it too, they both need "how to handle a pitching staff for dummys"

[bubba428]

well i do hate baseball, but i hate philly more so therefor I take much enjoyment in the Yankees WINNING......

[baddest434]

i'm glad a-rod got a clutch hit..christ they hit the guy 3 times in 2 games.

[Mike]

well i do hate baseball, but i hate philly more so therefor I take much enjoyment in the Yankees WINNING......

ugh go away

[Frosty]

I will say this, being that I get to watch the Phillies all year(obviously) don't count them out...granted it's all but over...winning 3 straight, 2 up in NYC...highly unlikely but this team will NOT quit and they will NOT roll over.

[Mike]

I will say this, being that I get to watch the Phillies all year(obviously) don't count them out...granted it's all but over...winning 3 straight, 2 up in NYC...highly unlikely but this team will NOT quit and they will NOT roll over.

i think they will take tomorrow (lee vs burnett with burnett on 3 days rest)

and i think pedro vs. pettite will be a good game weds night

[baddest434]

ugh go away

please

i think philly will get tommorrows game too, although i hope i'm wrong. lee is 1 tough pitcher but he can be beat. and who knows what AJ will show up.

so philly splits w/NY today. i loved the eagles killing the giants:lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

please

i think philly will get tommorrows game too, although i hope i'm wrong. lee is 1 tough pitcher but he can be beat. and who knows what AJ will show up.

so philly splits w/NY today. i loved the eagles killing the giants:lol:

I like the Giants losing, puts Dallas and the Egirls tied for first in the NFC east, with the head to head match up this upcoming weekend.

The odds are not in AJ's favor. CC didnt look nearly as strong as he did in game one, but he did look very solid in game 1 sans those pitches...

The game will fall on the Yankees bats. If they can tear a hole into Lee early like they did tonight, and keep him on the mound, keep him on the mound for 25-30 pitches an inning, they will be able to get into the bullpen early.

I hope AJ pitches like he did in game 2.

I will say...something so awesome about Pettite vs Pedro in game 6, at Yankee Stadium...I almost want it to happen....but I will enjoy a win tomorrow night just as much.

[JL8Jeff]

Charlie blew it by putting in Lidge. He stuck with him all season and he obviously didn't learn anything. Lidge and Hamels were done months ago but he's too dumb to know how to manage it. Blanton was rattled after he had to bat with runners on 1st and 2nd but overall he pitched a decent game. Phils left runners on 2nd too many times again. It's extremely tough for a national league team to repeat as champs so I'm not really surprised at this point.

[BigAls87Z28]

You know, I was thinking that the Nat league has the batting advantage in the WS.

When they are at the AL stadium, they can throw in another hitter to fortify the line up.
But when its at the NL stadium, the pitcher who has hit all season has the advantage over the AL pitcher.

[sweetbmxrider]

man these games have been good!

[JL8Jeff]

You know, I was thinking that the Nat league has the batting advantage in the WS.

When they are at the AL stadium, they can throw in another hitter to fortify the line up.
But when its at the NL stadium, the pitcher who has hit all season has the advantage over the AL pitcher.

The advantage goes to the AL team because they have a player who only exists to bat and produce runs. Most NL pitchers can't bat well at all so that doesn't give them much of an advantage of AL pitchers anyway. Look at the Phils, they don't have a spare player that bats .300+ and has 250+ at bats to be DH. The advantage definitely goes to the AL.

[BigAls87Z28]

They cant all have amazing batting averages like the Yankees, but they can put in another hot bat, which Philly has plenty.
NL pitchers might not make good batters...but they have been hitting for most of the season and have a better chance then AL pitchers in the box.

[Frosty]

Ughhh, I have to agree with Al(I feel dirty lol).

The NL absolutely has the advantage with this whole DH thing, the NL team can keep their same lineup day to day and when it goes to an AL park they can throw in another solid hitter.

[baddest434]

was that the first game that lidge pitched in this series?
i think he did a good job :mrgreen:

[Frosty]

Yes it was. Actually if you really want to think about it, the entire situation wasn't his fault. Ruiz calls the pitches, they agreed on all fastballs...I don't know why they got scared of using slider. Ruiz is magic behind the plate blocking that pitch if it goes into the dirt. It's just frustrating to see one strike away from getting out of the inning.

[BonzoHansen]

Well, once you hit the 9th and the game is tied you'll never be in a save situation to bring your closer into, thus the closer becomes the holder. If that was ny in ny you'd have seen rivera n there.

You'd like to think lidge could get 3 outs and almost did. Damon had a great at-bat.

I agree with bobby V on espn the phils blew it by not slowing down the game. They let that inning snowball.

[Frosty]

I totally disagree with Bobby V. The guy is an idiot, there's a reason he's not a manager any more. Hearing him makes my ears bleed. I felt like emailing him at ESPN and telling him to clean the jizz off his cheek from the Yankees dicks, seriously.

[Mike]

how can it be ruiz's fault, if lidge wanted a slider he should have shook him off, the pitcher is in FULL control in that situation

[Frosty]

Ruiz usually calls the game. I agree, Lidge could have shook him off but they usually go with what Ruiz calls. Either way it was an implosion, something that should have never happened. We should be talking about a tied series but that's why they play the game.

[Mike]

ehh they werent ahead, they should have gotten out of the inning, but thats not saying they would have won the game

[Frosty]

Nope, certainly wasn't a guarantee.

[baddest434]

well i'll be glad when this WS is over regardless of who wins it.

i can't stand listening to Tim McCarver what a douche he is!

[NastyEllEssWon]

yeah honestly im gonna give the ''blame'' of that inning over to the yankees. they did what was needed to win the game. i hope tonights a bit better with lee pitching. lets hope we can drag this out to 7.





as for al....man dude....you talk TONS of stuff about crap you really have no clue about. AL has the advantage with the DH. Like Jeff said, they have a player that exists JUST to hit the ball....do nothing else. Some NL teams have to jumble up their rotation, maybe play a player in the outfield that normally wouldnt start just to get a nice matchup against a certain pitcher. It can create a little bit of confusion in a time when momentum and familiarity trump.

But thats what you get from someone that lives in NJ and is a Cowboys and Yankees fan. So at what age did you decide to jump on the BandWagon? :nod:






edit: its been a great series though.

[Mike]

yeah honestly im gonna give the ''blame'' of that inning over to the yankees. they did what was needed to win the game. i hope tonights a bit better with lee pitching. lets hope we can drag this out to 7.





as for al....man dude....you talk TONS of stuff about crap you really have no clue about. AL has the advantage with the DH. Like Jeff said, they have a player that exists JUST to hit the ball....do nothing else. Some NL teams have to jumble up their rotation, maybe play a player in the outfield that normally wouldnt start just to get a nice matchup against a certain pitcher. It can create a little bit of confusion in a time when momentum and familiarity trump.

But thats what you get from someone that lives in NJ and is a Cowboys and Yankees fan. So at what age did you decide to jump on the BandWagon? :nod:






edit: its been a great series though.

you mean stairs exists to do something other than hit the ball? please

it is 100% true that it is easier for a nl pitcher that has been taking batting practice and hitting in games all year to bat than it is for al pitchers who havent. and it is easier to slide a hitter into a spot than a pitcher

[JL8Jeff]

Ughhh, I have to agree with Al(I feel dirty lol).

The NL absolutely has the advantage with this whole DH thing, the NL team can keep their same lineup day to day and when it goes to an AL park they can throw in another solid hitter.

Nope, no way the NL has the advantage. Think about it. The AL has a solid 9 man lineup of batters that play 140+ games that way. The NL has an 8 man lineup and then has to toss in a backup player to fill the DH spot. How many ab's does that player get all year? 50? How often does he bat more than once in a game? The NL might be used to the strategy of pinch hitting and when to sub the pitcher a little better and possibly be better at bunting.

[Mike]

and you are ONLY talking about the al stadiums, in the NL stadium, the home team has the same advantage, when a guy the al team has relied on ALL season can not play, and a pitcher who hasnt had any at bats or batting practice has to

[Frosty]

Jeff, I was talking about in NL parks.

[JL8Jeff]

Yeah, but even in NL parks a lot of times the DH will still play a position and a lesser batter will sit. And the lesser batter still makes a better pinch hitter than an NL batter because he's had more at bats during the season. Pitcher batting comparisons are pretty much meaningless because NL pitchers don't really bat that often and half the time it's bunting anyway. So a guy hitting .089 is better than a guy hitting .069 isn't too big of a deal. That's just the way I see it.

[baddest434]

see you guys in NY
there are 2 different AJ's on this team. the good one that showed up the first game and then there the one your seeing tonight.

[BigAls87Z28]

I was born and raised a yankee and cowboy fan. My football number 74 comes from my father, who's idol was Bob Lilly, Defensive Tackle for the Dallas Cowboys forever. One of the greatest to play on the line. I have a picture of me in a Dallas tshirt when I was 2 years old, so go **** yourself on the bandwagon talk.

NL has the advantage.
They have a 9 man roster...dont start throwing out figures of 8 and then sometimes they bring in another guy... The 9th guy is the pitcher, and that pitcher has seen more at bats then any AL pitcher.
But when they go to an AL park, they get to put in a bat-only guy!! Where the AL has that all season long, no doubt, but you dont put some suck-ass guy in for your DH...you put a big stick in there.
But when the AL goes to the NL park, the AL line up is now 8 plus pitcher, sans one of thier bats, while the NL has its full, seasoned batting line up that have played in 160+ games together.
In the AL field, its a push. In an NL field, the AL is at the disadvantage.

[Firebird67dude]

philies got this game in the bag. Amazing how theya re setting it up so the Phillies come back and beat the yanks in the house that jeter built.


hahahahahha

[baddest434]

philies got this game in the bag. Amazing how theya re setting it up so the Phillies come back and beat the yanks in the house that jeter built.


hahahahahha

no i think the plan is to come back to NY and win at home. yanks did'nt need this game at all. plus with lee pitching you would figure philly would win.

well see

[Mike]

philies got this game in the bag. Amazing how theya re setting it up so the Phillies come back and beat the yanks in the house that jeter built.


hahahahahha


hang you're hopes on pedro and hamels? :rofl:

[BigAls87Z28]

Tim couldnt spell baseball if there wasnt a spell checker around. He just is a hater, nothing more.

[LTb1ow]

Oh noezzz! Up 6!

[BigAls87Z28]

Looks like **** man...really looks like ****.
2-3-4 for the Yanks up. If there was every a time for a rally, its these guys.
Tex, if there was ever a time to earn that mega-million dollar paycheck, its tonight.
Time to swing the game back into our favor.

[Jersey Mike]

Nuh uh, let's do it at home & let the Phillies fans have at least one home win.

[BigAls87Z28]

No...I really want it to end tonight.

[Frosty]

hang you're hopes on pedro and hamels? :rofl:

Pedro did fine IMO. "IF" it goes to a Game 7, F Hamels with a spiked bat, pitch Lee on 3 days rest.

[Frosty]

Oh wtf....

[JL8Jeff]

If the Phils can't find a way to get Damon out then they have no chance. They keep playing him to pull the ball when he slaps it the other way 90% of the time.

[Mike]

Pedro did fine IMO. "IF" it goes to a Game 7, F Hamels with a spiked bat, pitch Lee on 3 days rest.

umm yeah thats 2 days rest, unless you are also praying for a rain out

[Frosty]

Aww crap, for some reason I thought there was a 2 day lay off :rofl:

<---dumbass

[JL8Jeff]

If it goes to game 7 I think you'll see a nice mix of pitchers from both teams. 3 days rest is never a good idea for anybody, but game 7 changes everything. The last person I want to see pitch is Hamels, he gave up a while ago. Happ for game 7!

[Frosty]

Everyone keeps saying Happ, do you want to throw a rookie out there start Game 7 of the WS, in the Bronx? I don't know....I think Hamels is their only choice....so give the Yanks the trophy now. :rofl:

[BigAls87Z28]

two back to back, to the 9th inning battles. I cant belive it.
I wish that Tex came out of his slump right then, and there.

[Mike]

Everyone keeps saying Happ, do you want to throw a rookie out there start Game 7 of the WS, in the Bronx? I don't know....I think Hamels is their only choice....so give the Yanks the trophy now. :rofl:

hamels was doing ok until that homer off the camera review..... that took his head right out of the game

[JL8Jeff]

Everyone keeps saying Happ, do you want to throw a rookie out there start Game 7 of the WS, in the Bronx? I don't know....I think Hamels is their only choice....so give the Yanks the trophy now. :rofl:

I would take Happ over Hamels right now no matter what. Hamels gave up on his season weeks ago! When was the last time Hamels went more than 4 innings without giving up runs?

[Frosty]

I can't argue that, regardless of my miscalculation that Mike pointed out I'd throw Lee out there, lol.

I will say this, if I was a Yankees fan I wouldn't want to see a Game 7.

[JL8Jeff]

You could tell that Lee didn't have his best stuff last night so all the people that were saying he should have been used in game 4 will now understand that 3 days rest is not a good idea. Hopefully it goes to game 7.

[Slow-V6]

Hopefully Raul is back.. Then you have Chase, Raul, and Werth to deal with along with a Slumping but on the brink to break out Howard!!

[NastyEllEssWon]

I was born and raised a yankee and cowboy fan.




being born into a house of front runners still makes you a front runner

[Frosty]

being born into a house of front runners still makes you a front runner

:confused: You're going a little far with that topic man, lol

[Firebird67dude]

Tim couldnt spell baseball if there wasnt a spell checker around. He just is a hater, nothing more.

haha. I know nothing bout the game. I think I watched 5 mins total of thwe series so far. haha. But I do find yankee fans quite ridiculous.

[baddest434]

I will say this, if I was a Yankees fan I wouldn't want to see a Game 7.

we won't see a game 7 :mrgreen: it's over tommorrow!

:crosses fingers:

[Frosty]

For your sake you better hope...it'd be heartbreaking if Pedro pitches a gem....:D

[Jersey Mike]

:confused: You're going a little far with that topic man, lol

he's sore, that's all. Philly class.

[NastyEllEssWon]

what am i sore about? series aint over yet :mrgreen:

[Frosty]

he's sore, that's all. Philly class.

Yeah because North Jersey and NYC is the pinnacle of class :rolleyes:

[baddest434]

For your sake you better hope...it'd be heartbreaking if Pedro pitches a gem....:D

hey you never know he pitched well the first game. hopefully the yanks learned to adjust to that 75 mph breaking ball they were all way out in front out it last game.

[BigAls87Z28]

being born into a house of front runners still makes you a front runner

Actually, since you are gunna continue to be a douche, my father grew up in Queens, and he was one of the few Yankee fans as most were Mets. He liked the image of the Yankees: clean cut, top notch baseball players, the envy of the league.
Cowboys..well..they were the underdogs forever. They were always the bridesmaids of the NFC.
Cant help that my father happen to fall in love with some of the greatest sports teams of all times. Sorry you fell in love with some of the worst.

[BigAls87Z28]

Yeah because North Jersey and NYC is the pinnacle of class :rolleyes:

Compared to Philly fans? Yes.
See, NYC teams have won so many different championships that we just accept winning as just a regular happening, something that comes with the end of every sports season.
For Philly, forever full of second rate teams, teams that could never really pull it off, teams that choke and choke big.
Teams that put up a good fight, and every once and a while win a few games, sometimes the big one.
I belive this is the reason why Philly fans have this odd rage about themselves. Anyone remember the carnage of last years WS win?
Do you ever recall hearing anything like that happening in NYC?
No, no you dont.
Boston fans were like you...but they started to win more and more, and then they calmed down.

[Frosty]

hey you never know he pitched well the first game. hopefully the yanks learned to adjust to that 75 mph breaking ball they were all way out in front out it last game.

Yeah he pitched pretty well...he made a few mistakes and the Yankees jumped on them...that's pretty much been the theme of the series. Both teams have jumped on mistakes, the Yankees just jumped on a few more so far.

[Frosty]

Compared to Philly fans? Yes.
See, NYC teams have won so many different championships that we just accept winning as just a regular happening, something that comes with the end of every sports season.
For Philly, forever full of second rate teams, teams that could never really pull it off, teams that choke and choke big.
Teams that put up a good fight, and every once and a while win a few games, sometimes the big one.
I belive this is the reason why Philly fans have this odd rage about themselves. Anyone remember the carnage of last years WS win?
Do you ever recall hearing anything like that happening in NYC?
No, no you dont.
Boston fans were like you...but they started to win more and more, and then they calmed down.

Al, please. No offense but NY fans are some of the most uneducated fans in any sport. Have you seriously tried talking to a Rangers fan? Most NY fans I know and talk to have the "oh, well every other team sucks and NY teams rule" and can't even carry on a decent conversation without resorting to NY is great blah blah blah. Christ, look at Game 1...fans LEAVING after the 7th inning....that's some great support.

All teams have their **** fans but Philly has the most passionate fans in any major sport(well aside from basketball). Flyers fans/Wachovia Center have been voted the hardest place to play for the last few years. You ask any media outlet and they'll say the Phillies and Eagles have the most passionate fans in the league(s). Some fans DO take it to far but please don't say the fans are 2nd rate because of the team(s) failure. NY fans aren't smart, they're just arrogant because of SOME teams success...they'd rather just quote rings and championships rather than talking the actual sport.

BTW, I give the Yankees and Giants credit...but the Rangers and Knicks? REALLY? Laughing stock of their respective leagues for the last 5 or so years.

EDIT: As I've said in the past there are very intelligent NY fans that can look at a team/game/situation and speak without bias. They're TRUE fans of whatever sport...but for that city they're few and far between IMO. I figured I'd say that again in case I pissed in someone's cornflakes and they decide to get all whiny.

[bubba428]

philly is full of ignorant douchebags...and the worst part about south jersey is philly fans. I can't ****ing stand sports because of them. football, baseball, basketball, hockey all ruined but nut hugging philly fans....

[Frosty]

Sorry mud tire tossing isn't a popular sport. :D

[87GTA]

Al, please. No offense but NY fans are some of the most uneducated fans in any sport. Have you seriously tried talking to a Rangers fan? Most NY fans I know and talk to have the "oh, well every other team sucks and NY teams rule" and can't even carry on a decent conversation without resorting to NY is great blah blah blah. Christ, look at Game 1...fans LEAVING after the 7th inning....that's some great support.

All teams have their **** fans but Philly has the most passionate fans in any major sport(well aside from basketball). Flyers fans/Wachovia Center have been voted the hardest place to play for the last few years. You ask any media outlet and they'll say the Phillies and Eagles have the most passionate fans in the league(s). Some fans DO take it to far but please don't say the fans are 2nd rate because of the team(s) failure. NY fans aren't smart, they're just arrogant because of SOME teams success...they'd rather just quote rings and championships rather than talking the actual sport.

BTW, I give the Yankees and Giants credit...but the Rangers and Knicks? REALLY? Laughing stock of their respective leagues for the last 5 or so years.

EDIT: As I've said in the past there are very intelligent NY fans that can look at a team/game/situation and speak without bias. They're TRUE fans of whatever sport...but for that city they're few and far between IMO. I figured I'd say that again in case I pissed in someone's cornflakes and they decide to get all whiny.

well done!!!!

[BigAls87Z28]

No one gives a crap about hockey, so no one cares about the fans of said sport.

[LTb1ow]

I despise people who care to much about sports. There is more to life.

[Frosty]

No one gives a crap about hockey, so no one cares about the fans of said sport.

Don't hate on a sport you can't play. ;)

I despise people who care to much about sports. There is more to life.

It's all harmless bantering back on forth on a certain topic. Sport isn't life like ruining threads is for you. :D

[LTb1ow]

Some one has got to give the mods something to do all day. ;)

[Frosty]

I'm sure they appreciate the work......................lol

[LTb1ow]

AND, can't be letting Bubba/Nasty have all the idiotic commenting to themselves!

[Frosty]

Very true....very good point. Carry on. :D

[baddest434]

um the fat lady is loosening up her voice.
7-1 is going to be hard for you to come back from.

[Mike]

wow, no in game bumps from the philly fans tonight?

[LTb1ow]

Come back time.

[Frosty]

wow, no in game bumps from the philly fans tonight?

No, I'd be tripping the word censor every other word. :rofl:

Kudos to the Yankees, er I mean Matsui(sp). The Phillies let Petite off the hook way too many times.

Great series, good battle. Certainly wasn't a cake walk like a lot of Yankees fans said it would be.

I'm a bit confused though, aside from when the Yankees scored and a "few" 2 strike counts the crowd has been quiet. That's not a shot at the Yankees fans, the true fans can't afford the ridiculous ticket prices in that stadium.

[Mike]

its not over.....9 outs from the pen is a lot to ask, and howard is a streaky hitter, that homer might be what he needed if he comes up with runners on

its a quiet crowd because its probably nearly 50/50 with yankee and Philly fans, that's how it was during the inter-league series

[JL8Jeff]

Just got home but I'm stunned at how poorly managed this game has been by Charlie. How in the heck do you continue to pitch meatballs to Matsui? The Yanks paid the price by giving Utley good pitches twice in a game, but 3 times to Matsui with runners on? It doesn't make any sense. And why would you bring in Durbin instead of a lefty (Happ) when you take Pedro out? It's amazing the Phils made it this far being so mismanaged. Unless the Phils bats come alive quickly, they obviously don't deserve to win anything. But this pitching performance is brutal!

[Mike]

what is he gonna do, walk him and bring posada up with the bases loaded?

you are right though, the yankees arent winning anything, its charlie losing it...:rolleyes:

[Frosty]

The double he hit was all him, there's nothing you can do about that. The HR was all Pedro's fault...I was screaming at the TV NOT to pitch him inside.

Anyway, they need a huge inning, I have a feeling Rivera is coming in for 2.

They'll keep fighting until the 27th out but this game is over unless a miracle happens.

[baddest434]

pedro looked kinda weak tonight. do you think the phils should have started someone else?

[Frosty]

Nope, that's one move I don't question. He didn't pitch bad in Game 2, he handles pressure very well. The only other real option was Happ...rookie pitcher in a do or die situation? No way, Pedro was the man to turn to.

If it wasn't for that stupid DH rule(I hate it with a passion) Godzilla would have been riding the pine...reason number 395 to hate the DH lol

[JL8Jeff]

If it wasn't for that stupid DH rule(I hate it with a passion) Godzilla would have been riding the pine...reason number 395 to hate the DH lol

Which goes back to the discussion about the AL having the advantage.

And yes, you have to pitch to Matsui, but when you start 0-2 on him and go to 3-2 and throw a meatball, that's not something you can do. Let alone going to 3 balls on him again and throwing another perfect pitch. It was obvious in the 2nd inning Pedro didn't have it tonight and we were saying he should have been taken out at the end of the 3rd. We were right. A good manager can tell that and Charlie is not a good manager. Look at how he stuck with Lidge all season after blowing a ton of saves. That was the key to the World Series, him blowing it.

[Mike]

wow... just, wow... you guys turn on people so fast. its a wonder anyone ever stays in philly after contracts are up...