protein shakes?

[Z28 Heritage]

Whats a good but cheaper protein shake that tastes good?


Thanks
-Wes

[WildBillyT]

RTD (Ready-To-Drink, or premade) or a powder?

IMO (and I've drank a lot of them):

RTD- Muscle Milk
Powder- Optimum Chocolate or Mint Chocolate

[jts98z28]

get yourself a 10 pound bag of optimum nutrition whey protein(i like vanilla cream? and but like 2-3 strawberrys in it and blend it up....:drool:)

[Z28 Heritage]

Can you list prices?

[WildBillyT]

Can you list prices?

For an RTD or powder?

[Z28 Heritage]

For an RTD or powder?Both

[LTb1ow]

I was using EAS for a while, the vanilla isn't half bad when mixed with cold milk and a squirt of chocolate syrup.

[Z28 Heritage]

And what better RTG or powder?

[LTb1ow]

Better as in?


The bulk powder will be much cheaper.

[Z28 Heritage]

I was using EAS for a while, the vanilla isn't half bad when mixed with cold milk and a squirt of chocolate syrup.Hows chocolate syrup any good for you?:lol:

[LTb1ow]

Spikes your blood sugar if you plan on going to lift afterwords would be my best reason, other wise, it just tastes better.

[Z28 Heritage]

Spikes your blood sugar if you plan on going to lift afterwords would be my best reason, other wise, it just tastes better.Okay lol i guess thats a good reason!

[LTb1ow]

But just taking protein shakes is gonna make you bloated/fat if your body doesn't need the added protein.

[WildBillyT]

But just taking protein shakes is gonna make you bloated/fat if your body doesn't need the added protein.

And you will have gastro discomfort, like gas and possibly loose stool. Oh, and there's the whole cholesterol thing if you aren't careful.

As for prices, they are all over the place. Try Bodybuilding.com and Supplementwarehouse.com.

RTDs will be more expensive per gram of protein since they are premade and prepackaged.

[Z28 Heritage]

But just taking protein shakes is gonna make you bloated/fat if your body doesn't need the added protein.I have under 1250cals per day and i way about 320pounds. I burned about 1600cals yesterday so i do need the protein.

[LTb1ow]

I have under 1250cals per day and i way about 320pounds. I burned about 1600cals yesterday so i do need the protein.


Geez, what am I doing wrong. :-x

[Z28 Heritage]

Geez, what am I doing wrong. :-xWhat do you mean?

[WildBillyT]

I have under 1250cals per day and i way about 320pounds. I burned about 1600cals yesterday so i do need the protein.

You weigh 320 and only take in 1250 cals per day? Holy starvation mode, Batman!

[LTb1ow]

What do you mean?

I eat a ton, and am stuck at a measly 200 lbs.

[Z28 Heritage]

You weigh 320 and only take in 1250 cals per day? Holy starvation mode, Batman!No No No i spread my meals thru the day i have about five meals a 'day. Each meal is about a fist size of protein and a fist size of carbs. So i'm not starving

[WildBillyT]

No No No i spread my meals thru the day i have about five meals a 'day. Each meal is about a fist size of protein and a fist size of carbs. So i'm not starving

I believe you are missing my point.

Example.

For a 6' 1" 320lb 21 year old male, a rough guess of your BMR is 2800 calories a day. If you only do 1300 you are too far off of your BMR, your body will go into starvation mode, and will fight you trying to lose weight.

Ergo,

FAIL.

[Z28 Heritage]

I believe you are missing my point.

Example.

For a 6' 1" 320lb 21 year old male, a rough guess of your BMR is 2800 calories a day. If you only do 1300 you are too far off of your BMR, your body will go into starvation mode, and will fight you trying to lose weight.

Ergo,

FAIL.See the thing is i'm not starving. I feel great i'v never felt this great.

[WildBillyT]

See the thing is i'm not starving. I feel great i'v never felt this great.

I am not talking about starving as in hungry. I am talking about you triggering your body into thinking it's starving by not eating enough. So it automatically tries to hold onto weight and fights your efforts.

[Z28 Heritage]

I am not talking about starving as in hungry. I am talking about you triggering your body into thinking it's starving by not eating enough. So it automatically tries to hold onto weight and fights your efforts.I see your point. So you thing i should go up in cal? How much 2500?

[jts98z28]

Can you list prices?

i believe its still like75-80 bucks for the ten pound bag at vitamin shop.....but as far as your calorie intake, should be way higher even if your cutting i only weighed 198 lbs and was still taking in 1500 a day at the minimum for 2 weeks max....its not good for your body to deplete it of food like that, you better be taking a whole food multivitamin too

[LTb1ow]

I see your point. So you thing i should go up in cal? How much 2500?

Whats your goal here?

If your already 320, are you trying to lean out, or bulk more?

[Z28 Heritage]

i believe its still like75-80 bucks for the ten pound bag at vitamin shop.....but as far as your calorie intake, should be way higher even if your cutting i only weighed 198 lbs and was still taking in 1500 a day at the minimum for 2 weeks max....its not good for your body to deplete it of food like that, you better be taking a whole food multivitamin tooNope haven't been doing that

[LTb1ow]

Wait until your joints start screaming at you, its fun. ;)

[WildBillyT]

i believe its still like75-80 bucks for the ten pound bag at vitamin shop.....but as far as your calorie intake, should be way higher even if your cutting i only weighed 198 lbs and was still taking in 1500 a day at the minimum for 2 weeks max....its not good for your body to deplete it of food like that, you better be taking a whole food multivitamin too

In his case he should be around 2250. Cut 500-750 calories maximum. When you lose weight, recalculate your BMR and your caloric intake.

If your calorie intake is less than that you are eating too little.

[Z28 Heritage]

Whats your goal here?

If your already 320, are you trying to lean out, or bulk more?Lean out and bulk up. I have a huge belle i'm trying to make that go a'way.

[LTb1ow]

Lean out and bulk up. I have a huge belle i'm trying to make that go a'way.

Don't be taking protein shakes, do more cardio and eat healthier.

[Z28 Heritage]

In his case he should be around 2250. Cut 500-750 calories maximum. When you lose weight, recalculate your BMR and your caloric intake.

If your calorie intake is less than that you are eating too little.Okay i'll do 2250 then. Thanks fellows!

[Z28 Heritage]

Don't be taking protein shakes, do more cardio and eat healthier.Eating healthier? i eat a'lot of salad and chicken. Fruits so i got that right lol

[LTb1ow]

Eating healthier? i eat a'lot of salad and chicken. Fruits so i got that right lol

Well then, dust the running shoes off, and have at it. Better get used to running for ever and ever if you want to join the USMC.

[Z28 Heritage]

Well then, dust the running shoes off, and have at it. Better get used to running for ever and ever if you want to join the USMC.I "walk" every day for 2 miles. I'm training for basic training before i even think about going to a recruter. I think its what? 2 miles under 13min?

[LTb1ow]

I "walk" every day for 2 miles. I'm training for basic training before i even think about going to a recruter. I think its what? 2 miles under 13min?

I would be more concerned with waking up at 5, running till 7, eating, and then running till lunch, and so on. :rofl:

[Z28 Heritage]

I would be more concerned with waking up at 5, running till 7, eating, and then running till lunch, and so on. :rofl:Wow....

[WildBillyT]

Well then, dust the running shoes off, and have at it. Better get used to running for ever and ever if you want to join the USMC.

I disagree. I think he is currently too heavy to run. Walking is fine, biking is better. Protein shakes are good if they are lo-cal. Avoid sugar wherever possible. That includes from fruits and juices.

[Z28 Heritage]

I disagree. I think he is currently too heavy to run. Walking is fine, biking is better. Protein shakes are good if they are lo-cal. Avoid sugar wherever possible. That includes from fruits and juices.Alright then can you tell me what i should eat and shouldin't?

[LTb1ow]

I disagree. I think he is currently too heavy to run. Walking is fine, biking is better. Protein shakes are good if they are lo-cal. Avoid sugar wherever possible. That includes from fruits and juices.

I guess, but what is he to do if he signs up for the service? Say he can't run?

[Z28 Heritage]

I guess, but what is he to do if he signs up for the service? Say he can't run?Are you dumb? I'm walking right now i'm sliming down then when i get to the size i want i will run all day long. This is PRE training i will sign up in a year or so. I need my body ready for this and right at this moment its not.

[LTb1ow]

Yup.

[Z28 Heritage]

Also i just brought my bike out of the shed. She need air in the tires and a good cleaning and shes ready to go for spring.

[Z28 Heritage]

Yup.Yup your dumb? Or yep i'm right? I honestly want to meet you to see if your truly this funny:rofl:

[LTb1ow]

I am quite dumb.

[Z28 Heritage]

I am quite dumb.Thing is your a good person and funny! So it makes up for it!

[WildBillyT]

He can run, it's just not a good idea at his weight. The constant pounding on his knees can create some problems.

[Z28 Heritage]

He can run, it's just not a good idea at his weight. The constant pounding on his knees can create some problems.Spot on man spot on.

[Tsar]

Um.. bubba, USMC requires you to run 3 not 2 miles. You better step up that "walking" if you want to get anywhere. At least walk "uphill" that will aid your "progress".................

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[Z28 Heritage]

Um.. bubba, USMC requires you to run 3 not 2 miles. You better step up that "walking" if you want to get anywhere. At least walk "uphill" that will aid your "progress".................

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:|I keep saying i have a year or so to work on everything. I'm not rushing i'm taking it nice and easy. And when i do go to basic training my body will be in tip top shape!

[Tsar]

How tall are you?

[Z28 Heritage]

How tall are you?I'm about 6"5 i haven checked in a year

[Tsar]

Loosing at least 100 pounds while still maintaining some muscle/strength is gonna suck donkey balls.

I guess best of luck for trying..

[procamaroz28]

syntha 6 powder tastes amazing...

[Z28 Heritage]

Loosing at least 100 pounds while still maintaining some muscle/strength is gonna suck donkey balls.

I guess best of luck for trying..Thank you i need it!

[Tsar]

syntha 6 powder tastes amazing...
Is that the stuff that BSN makes? Indeed it tastes awesome! My gf takes it and I always try to get some whenever she's around. The only downside is that it was 80 more calories per serving over ON Whey.. But it taste soooooo good.

[procamaroz28]

ya it is!! i know rite thats why i just take pro complex by ON

[LTb1ow]

http://www.globalpackagegallery.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=39817&g2_serialNumber=2

Protein shakes are for squares.

[Mike Something]

ya it is!! i know rite thats why i just take pro complex by ON Great stuff, even just the regular Whey Protein from Optimum Nutrition is great. Costs around $45.00 - $50.00 at GNC and VitaminShoppe for the big container... Go onto BodyBuilder.com for a discount. That mixed w/ NOXplode as my preworkout does it for me. Hope that helps man.

[procamaroz28]

o na i stay away from NO... just plain and simple creatine and procomplex for me...

and ya online ordering is def. the way to go for this stuff...

[JerzLT1]

Isopure protein is low calorie, i was taking it in iraq last year

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I use prosource nitro whey vanilla, mixed with some peanut butter. Tastes awesome and not many calories.

i was taking it in iraq next year

:omg: You can time travel?

[Tsar]

:omg: You can time travel?

I was about to post the same thing. Screw the protein, you tell me how to warp time!!! :lol:

[JerzLT1]

fixed, haha. i was in Iraq last year and i leave next month so technically next year ill be there as well

[Z28 Heritage]

fixed, haha. i was in Iraq last year and i leave next month so technically next year ill be there as wellSo *** DAMN LUCKY

[Rich2279]

Designer Whey @ GNC. Mixes easily. You can add it with Oatmeal and make Protein Pancakes, milk for a milkshake, etc. http://www.gnc.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2108294&cp=3593187&f=PAD%2FBrands%2FDesigner+Whey&fbc=1&lmdn=Brand&fbn=Brands%7CDesigner+Whey

[Z28 Heritage]

Designer Whey @ GNC. Mixes easily. You can add it with Oatmeal and make Protein Pancakes, milk for a milkshake, etc. http://www.gnc.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2108294&cp=3593187&f=PAD%2FBrands%2FDesigner+Whey&fbc=1&lmdn=Brand&fbn=Brands%7CDesigner+WheyLooks good i'll check that one out!

[Z28 Heritage]

Thanks all for your Help!

[JerzLT1]

So *** DAMN LUCKY

im sorry, please explain why im so lucky?

[Z28 Heritage]

im sorry, please explain why im so lucky?Gonna be in Iraq. I'v been working my ass off to get my body in shape so i can go to Boot Camp. Your living my dream right now

[JerzLT1]

[QUOTE=92camarodude;665569]Gonna be in Iraq. I'v been working my ass off to get my body in shape so i can go to Boot Camp. Your living my dream right now[/]

yeah, being in the military may be your dream but Iraq isnt fun no matter what way you spin it. i understand your passion because im a patriotic person as well but i dont want you to get the illusion that Iraq is a place to WANT to be.

[Tsar]

yeah, being in the military may be your dream but Iraq isnt fun no matter what way you spin it. i understand your passion because im a patriotic person as well but i dont want you to get the illusion that Iraq is a place to WANT to be.
+1. I think OP is over romanticizing war a little bit too much.

Have you ever spent time with a vet that was disabled, such as missing limbs or worse; being paralyzed from the waist or neck down. Trust me when I say this, it's nothing to be envious about. Being dead is not the worst thing that can happen to you, imo.

When my grandmother was a nurse, she used to watch over a gulf war vet. He was paralyzed from the neck down, and he lived like that for 10 or so year, she watched over him for several of those years. I can break down her day for you, but it won't be pretty, you just imagine laying in the same bed for 10 years without being able to move anything but your head, it's not pretty no matter what way you look at it. No one should go to war, there's nothing pretty or glamorous about it, nothing.

[Foosh]

Dude, I'm a fairly broad guy, not too tall (5'11) but i'm 240. I was told a year ago by a nutristionist my sister was seeing that i should be taking in at least 3000 calories to maintain weight. Now i'm on a crew team, work out everyday and eat the same, i started dropping weight finally and still can't run well. The weight you put on your knees is bad, unless your really tall 320 lbs is now running condition. I have a friend whose 6'3 and 330 and he works out a good bit, but knows he really can't run much because it will ruin his knees. My advise is do low impact exercises for your body such as biking alot, aka, bike to asbury park, then up or down the coast and back, or go swimming, at least a solid hour per session. I swam for 12 years competitively and it is honestly one of the best workouts you can do, i haven't swam in a year, and its noticable when you get back in. Legs aren't as strong, backs not as strong. Bottom line is running is great but for bigger people its not good for your body, slim down and build more muscle before putting that kind of impact on your knees.

Also if your eating 5 meals a day, and only eating 1500 calories, thats 300 per meal so that's a glass of milk and like three pieces of meat with a slice of bread. Dude i doubt your daily intake is that low, i take in close to 1000 calories daily in fluids alone between Gatorade, milk, apple juice and the occasional soda. Just saying if you are that low its no bueno man.

Sorry if it came out harsh, but it was meant to be helpful, and comes from experience with weight man. Just trying to help you out.

[madness410]

well the good news is you have the mentality and drive to get to where you want to be regardless of your weight.

the bad news is theres a sheeeit ton of stuff to be learned about dieting lol. while billy is right, you do need more calories to maintain your weight and not go into starvation mode, that doesnt mean go to the nearest mcdonalds and gulp down big macs. i am no diet guru myself, i know basic things, but billy does always have good information so i would always take into account what he says.

but to answer your question about protein shakes..when i used to take them i used intrapro chocolate, you dont get a lot for what you pay but it tastes amazing. when i took a break from protein shakes i saw strength gains in pretty much all of my exercises lifting..so i question the fact if they even work..

[Z28 Heritage]

+1. I think OP is over romanticizing war a little bit too much.

Have you ever spent time with a vet that was disabled, such as missing limbs or worse; being paralyzed from the waist or neck down. Trust me when I say this, it's nothing to be envious about. Being dead is not the worst thing that can happen to you, imo.

When my grandmother was a nurse, she used to watch over a gulf war vet. He was paralyzed from the neck down, and he lived like that for 10 or so year, she watched over him for several of those years. I can break down her day for you, but it won't be pretty, you just imagine laying in the same bed for 10 years without being able to move anything but your head, it's not pretty no matter what way you look at it. No one should go to war, there's nothing pretty or glamorous about it, nothing.Yea i have talked to Vets before one of them flew a Huey gun ship in vietnam. And i loved hearing his stories. And i'v talked to others and listend to there stories and i know this is what i want to do. Also my uncle was a marine never in a war but he did boot camp and all that fun stuff. He talked to me about how hard it was and said out of 10 its about a 7. So i know i have to get my body in Perfect shape.

[Z28 Heritage]

Dude, I'm a fairly broad guy, not too tall (5'11) but i'm 240. I was told a year ago by a nutristionist my sister was seeing that i should be taking in at least 3000 calories to maintain weight. Now i'm on a crew team, work out everyday and eat the same, i started dropping weight finally and still can't run well. The weight you put on your knees is bad, unless your really tall 320 lbs is now running condition. I have a friend whose 6'3 and 330 and he works out a good bit, but knows he really can't run much because it will ruin his knees. My advise is do low impact exercises for your body such as biking alot, aka, bike to asbury park, then up or down the coast and back, or go swimming, at least a solid hour per session. I swam for 12 years competitively and it is honestly one of the best workouts you can do, i haven't swam in a year, and its noticable when you get back in. Legs aren't as strong, backs not as strong. Bottom line is running is great but for bigger people its not good for your body, slim down and build more muscle before putting that kind of impact on your knees.

Also if your eating 5 meals a day, and only eating 1500 calories, thats 300 per meal so that's a glass of milk and like three pieces of meat with a slice of bread. Dude i doubt your daily intake is that low, i take in close to 1000 calories daily in fluids alone between Gatorade, milk, apple juice and the occasional soda. Just saying if you are that low its no bueno man.

Sorry if it came out harsh, but it was meant to be helpful, and comes from experience with weight man. Just trying to help you out.Yea i under stand i'v uped the cal in take by a good amount. I'll be going to the gym today and work out on a Bike. Way to cold out to ride the bike i went out and tryed.:rofl:.

[LTb1ow]

Yea i under stand i'v uped the cal in take by a good amount. I'll be going to the gym today and work out on a Bike. Way to cold out to ride the bike i went out and tryed.:rofl:.

Get your body temp, heart rate, and breathing up and going, before going outside. Then its not so much of a shock.

[WildBillyT]

Get your body temp, heart rate, and breathing up and going, before going outside. Then its not so much of a shock.

More to this point-

If you are trying to lose weight, get a good heart rate monitor (such as a Polar) and use that as a "coach" on your wrist. Aim for the lower part of your working heart rate to lose fat, aim for the upper to burn calories/improve cardio fitness. This way you can tell if you are really working hard or if you are wasting your time, and you can regulate your effort to go longer/shorter if you have to.

[JerzLT1]

Yea i have talked to Vets before one of them flew a Huey gun ship in vietnam. And i loved hearing his stories. And i'v talked to others and listend to there stories and i know this is what i want to do. Also my uncle was a marine never in a war but he did boot camp and all that fun stuff. He talked to me about how hard it was and said out of 10 its about a 7. So i know i have to get my body in Perfect shape.

im pretty sure your missing the point. im not sure what kind of stuff youve been through but military personnel dont come home with PTSD for no reason. i can tell you from first hand experience that mortars flying over head in person is nothing like call of duty

[Foosh]

Yea i under stand i'v uped the cal in take by a good amount. I'll be going to the gym today and work out on a Bike. Way to cold out to ride the bike i went out and tryed.:rofl:.

I gotcha man, i mean when it starts to warm up a bit... also try going somewhere away from home to just walk. Like anchorage in seabright to the end of the longbranch boarkwalk and back is 15 miles iirc, thats a good place to walk run when it warms up, there are plenty of places to stop and take a break, plus its not like being right around the corner from your house where you can cut your route short.

[Z28 Heritage]

im pretty sure your missing the point. im not sure what kind of stuff youve been through but military personnel dont come home with PTSD for no reason. i can tell you from first hand experience that mortars flying over head in person is nothing like call of dutyYea man its almost like Call of duty.... I know its not thanks for the input!

[LTb1ow]

Yea man its almost like Call of duty.... I know its not thanks for the input!

:facepalm:

[Z28 Heritage]

I gotcha man, i mean when it starts to warm up a bit... also try going somewhere away from home to just walk. Like anchorage in seabright to the end of the longbranch boarkwalk and back is 15 miles iirc, thats a good place to walk run when it warms up, there are plenty of places to stop and take a break, plus its not like being right around the corner from your house where you can cut your route short.Yea i'll try that thanks! That would be fun.