Does anyone know how to sell something on Ebay?

[redbanditZ28]

I am new to Ebay and I am looking to sell my APS Intercooled Twin Turbo System for an LS1 F-body for about $8K. I've compared pricing to other websites, and a few charge $8k for the whole system, so I figure I will charge the same. But are there any hidden things or things I should be cautious about when selling the system?

I ordered it from APS in Australia about 2 years ago now and I never opened the two boxes it came in. But since I received them, they have been kept in my basement away from any harmful elements and I could only assume everything would be in perfect working order since I never opened the packages and they are sealed tightly in the box.

But I don't want some one buying this thing and slapping it on their engine and then it damages their engine because they weren't smart enough to forge their internals. I guess what I am wondering is if there is a buyer beware mentality when selling something on Ebay. I appreciate any pointers I could get from any of you.

[LTb1ow]

8k for an APS?

Heh... good luck.

[NastyEllEssWon]

lol last i heard they were trying to sell em super cheap cause of their problems with the cheap chinese turbos

[GrandmasterCow]

APS was actually removed as a sponsor on ls1tech due to the way they were treating their customers. But yeah, a lot of the systems were selling 4-6k.

[Mike]

they arent a sponsor anymore because they stopped making/supporting parts for fbodys and corvettes too

[NastyEllEssWon]

they arent a sponsor anymore because they stopped making/supporting parts for fbodys and corvettes too






because instead of making good on a batch of faulty turbos they supplied and lied to the community about (being genuine T4's or something like that but actually were chinese) they just stopped making parts and answering questions/failed parts.

[redbanditZ28]

I heard about the cheap turbos. But supposedly when I bought mine, I got it for the introductory price and I bought one of their first systems they produced, which supposedly came with good turbos well before they switched to the Chinese ones. At least, that's what a few APS Turbo owners said who bought the first few turbo systems they made for the F-bodies. I mean I bought 1 of the first 50 Turbo kits they made for the F-body.
And there are a few websites selling them for $8k, so maybe I could sell it for that price. If not, I'll come down on it. But if I can't make a profit above what I bought it for and I have no bidders, then I'll just keep it. Of course, I never opened the packages, so I won't know for sure what turbos they really did come with. But I don't want to open the boxes only to have to re-package them again.

But does anyone know how to sell something like this on Ebay and are there any precautions I should take when selling it?

[Mike]

just follow the steps to list it, ebay makes it pretty simple. and i doubt there is anything you can be responsible for other than the actual item you are selling

[madness410]

just keep in mind people go on ebay to buy things cheaper than a store would sell it. also be very clear about what you are selling and note that the buyer uses the turbo at their own risk and you arent responsible for damages to their motors if installed incorrectly.

are you sure you dont want to start off selling smaller items to get the swing of things?

[redbanditZ28]

just keep in mind people go on ebay to buy things cheaper than a store would sell it. also be very clear about what you are selling and note that the buyer uses the turbo at their own risk and you arent responsible for damages to their motors if installed incorrectly.

are you sure you dont want to start off selling smaller items to get the swing of things?

Understood. I don't want to pull any punches selling this turbo system.

I was planning on listing these important points so that I don't have a buyer coming back at me and blaming me for something that isn't my fault.

APS Intercooled Twin Turbo System for 98-02 LS1 F-body. I am looking to sell my APS Intercooled TT System that I bought for my LS1 Camaro roughly 2 years ago. Plans have changed since I' first bought the system, and I am now looking to sell it. From the time I received it, the two large sealed boxes it came in have never been opened and have been stored indoors away from harmful elements. This system is ideal for use on the LS1 F-body's stock engine displacement up to about 400 ci and it meant for making large amounts of HP and torque. This system is really meant for those F-Body owners who are knowledgeable enough about forced induction and have a good understanding of what it takes to use a system like this on his/her car.

1. There is a no return policy under any conditions.
2. If you use this turbo system on your car, you are using it at your own risk and there is no warranty coverage provided by myself or by the APS manufacturer if any damage occurs.
3. If this turbo system damages your vehicle in anyway or it is incorrectly installed, I am not responsible for any damages. I am selling this product with the assumption that everything shipped to me was/is in perfect working condition from the manufacturer, and the boxes it was received in have never been opened. FYI, it is recommended that you use stronger than stock engine/fuel/tuning components to withstand the pressure that this system causes to the engine.
4. For a better description of the Turbo system, please visit APS's website for more information. Everything that is listed about the Turbo System on their website is everything I know about the product myself.


Let me know if there is anything else I should include so I am not at risk for anything in the selling process. I appreciate your help with this. I'd really like to sell the whole thing altogether to get rid of it, because I need the money for other important things. Plus, I wouldn't want to sell it piece by piece since I would have to repackage things.

[sweetbmxrider]

i've never made a disclaimer. just put a reserve for how much you want to get for it. if no one is willing to pay that, you keep it. you also have to factor in shipping or charge it after the auction and other ebay fees.

[NastyEllEssWon]

theres tons of people on tech that want the twin turbo intercooler but most people stay away from the systems cause of the turbos...you might have luck if you split the system up.....ricer boys love buying turbos off ebay

[WildBillyT]

If you want top dollar I'd find out exactly which turbos you have and then post up proof of it. Otherwise your buyers will assume that they are the crappy ones and bid accordingly.

[LS1Hawk]

I wouldn't go by what other websites are selling them for. Do an advanced search on eBay for completed auctions of the same item you are selling to see how much it is selling for on eBay. Sometimes if set the starting bid low, it will attract a lot of bidders and often the item will get bid up over what you originally wanted for it. I assume you have a PayPal account. If not, sign up for one. You don't want to be accepting personal checks or anything like that.

Don't leave out anything in your description...be honest and describe any problems. If it has even a scratch on it, you want to note it because you can get a crazy buyer that will say it wasn't in the description and want to return it. As for shipping, have all your shipping materials before hand so you know the exact weight the package is going to be. Then when you list it you can enter the dimensions and weight and eBay will calculate the shipping for the bidder/buyer.

[sweetbmxrider]

also, make sure you use paypal or something safe for money transfer. factor in those costs as well.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

they arent a sponsor anymore because they stopped making/supporting parts for fbodys and corvettes too

http://www.airpowersystems.com/products_usa.html

Doesnt seem to be the case here.

[Mike]

http://www.airpowersystems.com/products_usa.html

Doesnt seem to be the case here.



:wink:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1165816-calling-out-aps.html

look for the posts from peter@aps
post 33
post 37
post 45
post 70
post 73
post 76
post 79
post 82
post 84
post 86
post 98

and i only went up to page 5

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

:wink:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1165816-calling-out-aps.html

look for the posts from peter@aps
post 33
post 37
post 45
post 70
post 73
post 76
post 79
post 82
post 84
post 86
post 98

and i only went up to page 5
Thanks for the search but I wasnt questioning there rep on tech, just that they still make parts for fbodys.

[WildBillyT]

Thanks for the search but I wasnt questioning there rep on tech, just that they still make parts for fbodys.

Unfortunately I can't assist you as APS has decided not to produce any further F body twin turbo systems.

Cheers,

Peter


Not sure how else this can be read. Chances are they stopped selling the kits and didn't update their website- or want to leave it up there to see if they get a lot of requests. Then they might consider tooling up again... MAYBE.

[Mike]

it also says they have no plans to manufacture any products for any AMERICAN MUSCLE CARS, including the 2010 camaro

[LTb1ow]

But um, what does all that have to do with selling stuff on Ebay?:|

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

They need to change there website...Company definately seems real shady.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

But um, what does all that have to do with selling stuff on Ebay?:|

Someone already answered that...They walk you right through the process. Now the post has turned into a aps discussion :rofl:

[WildBillyT]

They need to change there website...Company definately seems real shady.

Yeah, but there's much worse from much larger companies. Think "takes money, doesn't ship product, and doesn't build product until enough orders are taken".

And to answer your question Matt, there appears to be confusion over if these kits are discontinued or not. They are, according to their rep. That will matter on ebay.

[LTb1ow]

:-? Damn kids ruining threads again.




:lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

post whores :|

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

post whores :|

Goverment worker here...nothing else to do at work.

[sweetbmxrider]

Goverment worker here...nothing else to do at work.

practice spelling :D

pretty dead here though. maybe shovel more snow.

[redbanditZ28]

Is there any seller protection offered on the website or a buyer beware disclaimer that protects the seller in anyway? I plan to make an honest sale, but I am not sure of what the ramifications are with selling something like a turbo system over Ebay.

As far as shipping, do I include that in the price or do I charge a separate rate?

How would I go about getting these two big boxes weighed? I mean they have some weight to them. Would I bring them down to my local UPS station and just get them weighed?

You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge on these things. I rarely have sold things in my life and I've never used Ebay. But I've heard horror stories of people buying things of the website and getting jipped. I don't want to jip anyone. But I want to keep the money I make and not have to refund the sale or have a buyer threatening me with lawsuites because this thing ruined his car or the turbos broke after a short while.

I mean if any of you guys were buying this from me, what would you want me to tell you so that you feel like you are making a safe and smart buy from me? And I already have considered lowering the price.

I will open the boxes and make sure what turbos I have. I am assuming the turbos will have the manufacturer and model on the turbo itself, right? Otherwise, how do I distinguish the good turbos from the bad Chinese ones?

When selling this thing, do I notify the buyer that APS has stopped making parts or systems for the F-bodies or do I let them know about the turbo situation even if my turbos aren't the cheap Chinese ones?

I thank you guys already for your input. I really do appreciate it.

[LS1Hawk]

It sounds like your boxes are already packed. You could take them down to a UPS store to get the exact weight and measurements. Honestly, I have a doctor's scale for weighting myself and I use that and it's been pretty accurate.

Once you have the weights and dimensions, when you create your listing select UPS Ground (I assuming that is how you are shipping). For the shipping rates there will be an option that says "let eBay calculate," or something to that extent. When you create your auction it will indicate that you are shipping UPS Ground and there will be a field for the bidder to enter their zipcode to get an estimated shipping rate. It's usually pretty accurate but always be prepared that you may have to pay a little extra out of pocket for shipping. You can also offer more than one shipping option.

If this is an expensive item, I would also recommend insuring the shipment and getting deliver confirmation, which you will have to indicate during the auction if the buyer pays or if you will eat the cost.

[redbanditZ28]

Thanks for the info. Is there a buyer beware that protects the seller any bit at all when using ebay?

Or does anyone recommend using Craigslist to sell the turbo kit? I know ebay would attract more people from around the country whereas craigslist is more local. But my friend who knows a little about ebay mentioned that they may charge me more than Craigslist would to sell it. Any truth to that?

I just heard back from APS and they mentioned the system lists for $6K, and $800 for shipping from Australia.

So I'd like to try to at least get that much for it, being it's never been used. If I have good turbos, I may even charge more. I never got a chance to open the box yet.

Is there anything else I should know or any measures I should take before selling this thing?

Thanks for everyone's input.

[NastyEllEssWon]

craigslist doesnt charge anything its a free service and mostly the payments are in cash up close and personal. DONT TAKE A CHECK FROM ANYONE ON CRAIGSLIST....especially if its for more than what youre asking :nod:



youd have tons of luck on sites like this, ls1tech...lt1ls1.com....random f body sites

[LS1Hawk]

Thanks for the info. Is there a buyer beware that protects the seller any bit at all when using ebay?

Or does anyone recommend using Craigslist to sell the turbo kit? I know ebay would attract more people from around the country whereas craigslist is more local. But my friend who knows a little about ebay mentioned that they may charge me more than Craigslist would to sell it. Any truth to that?

eBay offers seller protection through PayPal as long as you accept payment through PayPal. They will cover you for any transactions that are considered fraudulent at no additional cost.

eBay allows you 5 free listings a month, and then they charge you a listing fee for any additional listings based at what you set the starting bid at. Any fees that you will pay on those first 5 listings would be for things like extra pictures. I just sold a guitar on eBay and it came to only $2.04 for the listing. When the item sells, eBay and PayPal take a percentage of the final value.

You will get a lot of scam artists on Craigslist. Not saying you won't encounter one on eBay, but with Craigslist, there is no feedback or user ratings that you can go by. I always feel more confident selling through eBay.

[redbanditZ28]

Thanks again for the information.

I got to thinking, would there be anything wrong with posting a classified on various websites like on here, other F-body forums, and craigslist for the sake of circulation of my ad and then I just take the highest bidder or would/should I be better off just posting it on 1 website? I'd like to try my luck trying to sell it on a forum such as this first before I try ebay. But if I did do this,, should I put in the ad that the turbo system would go to the highest bidder? Like $7K or best offer for instance?

[Whiplash Performance]

Thanks again for the information.

I got to thinking, would there be anything wrong with posting a classified on various websites like on here, other F-body forums, and craigslist for the sake of circulation of my ad and then I just take the highest bidder or would/should I be better off just posting it on 1 website? I'd like to try my luck trying to sell it on a forum such as this first before I try ebay. But if I did do this,, should I put in the ad that the turbo system would go to the highest bidder? Like $7K or best offer for instance?

I think you should post it on the forums and on ebay, if some people feel safer to do the deal through ebay with the buyer's protection they have. Usually somebody look at your feedback for such a high dollar item and if you don't have very much feedback they will think its a scam and won't buy it from you.

If you want PM me and I could post it up on ebay and charge you the ebay fees and paypal fee associated with it since I have over 500 100% positive feedback ratings on there.