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TheV6Guy
05-17-2010, 09:18 PM
as you all know i had an accident on sunday at the meet. the car is getting towed to my house tomorrow in green township. everyone is telling me that its fixable and well if it is im going to let my brother go at it and try to get it moveable once agian. if any members are interested in giving me a hand like thunder offered itd be great. like i said in my last post if anyone at all knows where theres a rear anywhere let me know. also to all the members that were worried or concerned about me. thank you to all of you. you are all good friends. i appreciate all of your concerns and all of your help guys. thanks agian.

NJ Torque
05-17-2010, 09:19 PM
As I posted in the other thread, I may have a rear for you.

I was going to make a post like this... Whatever I can do I'll help out as well.

TheV6Guy
05-17-2010, 09:25 PM
thanks alot. i really appreciate it man. if you dont mind me asking what exactly do you mean by 3 or 4 channel?

NJ Torque
05-17-2010, 09:31 PM
Its just the type of ABS the car has.

If it has ABS/Traction control its a 4 Channel car, just ABS 3 Channel.

TheV6Guy
05-17-2010, 09:32 PM
if im correct its just 3 channel.. it dont have the ttraction switch like most f-bods do.

thunder
05-17-2010, 10:31 PM
Ya i think most V6's were 3channel iirc. Where u located?

TheV6Guy
05-18-2010, 08:25 AM
i live in green township. its like 10 minutes from wendys in hackettstown

deadtrend1
05-18-2010, 11:26 AM
if im correct its just 3 channel.. it dont have the ttraction switch like most f-bods do.

Yes, no TCS means 3 channel. Also a quick way to check is to look at the rear itself. If there is a wire plugged ontot he top of the carrier housing, thats 3 channel. If there is one wire going to each side of the axle, thats 4 channel.

TheV6Guy
05-18-2010, 02:11 PM
ook guys. well redbird just got dropped off at home. my brother ran out and checked out the damage and what i need in order to get it moveable agian 1 rim and a rear.. right now like i said we wana just get it moveable so im not worrying about body panels or body work right now. so if anyones got eathier a rear or a rim let me know. thanks guys

SilverDropTop
05-18-2010, 02:15 PM
I have a pair of 16" wheels and tires you can borrow for the time being so you can roll it around. If you need a hand doing the repairs and / or swapping the rear, shoot me a pm. Actually, emolineaux has a set of 16 rims for sale for $40. You might want to shoot him a PM.

malv
05-18-2010, 04:46 PM
Here's a couple on Craigslist that look promising and are near you:

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/ctd/1736808315.html
(not sure if he's parting it out but it's been up there a while so he may be willing to)
or
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/pts/1736772099.html

They are both 97's, so I'm not sure if the parts are the same, but I'm sure one of the more knowledgeable members will correct it if it's not :P

I've got mine up and running again, so if you need help, feel free to hit me up! I'm no expert, but am pretty close to you and if nothing else, am free labor!

TheV6Guy
05-18-2010, 05:12 PM
thanks so much guys for all offering your help. its so hard for me to even look at my car like it is. it just rips me apart all the time and money i put into it and now its destroyed and all my work went down the drain because of my stupidity.

transmaro93
05-18-2010, 06:11 PM
hey man it happens... thats why they are called accidents... i have an extra set of 16" silver 5 star firebird wheels (the non-turned spoke style) if you are interested shoot me a pm id rather not just sell one wheel but im not looking to make a killing... they have tires on them but arent the greatest shape and arent correct factory size either... let me know... i have a 10 bolt also but it was a 4 channel rear so that probably wont help you.. also really look under there well and make sure that none of your lower control arms are bent or the panhard bar isnt bent either... the stock parts arent very strong and it wouldnt take much... i have a stock panhard bar if you need it ill just give you that i was going to throw it away anyway... but i think i through out most of my other stock suspension stuff... but ill check if you need any of that crap you can have it also... if it have it of coarse

TheV6Guy
05-18-2010, 09:12 PM
thanks alot. when ever its nice out agian my brother and i are going to jack it up and put it on jack stands and check it all out. you all are really big helps. ill let you guys know whats going on when ever i do.i took some more pics of the damage and ill post em up tomorrow probably.

TheV6Guy
05-18-2010, 09:56 PM
here are some more pics of the damage i snapped real quick before i had to go meet my uncle..

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/red99bird/SI850511.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/red99bird/SI850512.jpg

snapped my axle in half..
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/red99bird/SI850513.jpg

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/red99bird/SI850514.jpg

maroman88
05-18-2010, 10:26 PM
doesnt look to bad mechanicly, with a few hands and some cheap/donated stock parts ull be back on the road in no time, it sucks but it can be fixed!

TheV6Guy
05-18-2010, 10:33 PM
well if it is fixable and i can atleast get it drivable ill drive it for a bit till i find something else. but i mean if members are willing to give me a hand getting her back to normal once agian lets go at it guys!who ever is deff willing to help me out just remind me or pm me your numbers and ill keep you guys all kept up to date on whats going on.

NastyEllEssWon
05-18-2010, 10:44 PM
doesnt look to bad mechanicly, with a few hands and some cheap/donated stock parts ull be back on the road in no time, it sucks but it can be fixed!





the pic where it shows the damage from behind with the hatch closed shows the 1/4 panel is tucked under the hatch. im almost guarantying that the unibody is tweaked to the point that its trashed. :nod:

thunder
05-19-2010, 01:14 AM
the pic where it shows the damage from behind with the hatch closed shows the 1/4 panel is tucked under the hatch. im almost guarantying that the unibody is tweaked to the point that its trashed. :nod:

Good point. Lets hope he gets lucky

V
05-19-2010, 07:13 AM
yea i saw that too about the 1/4 but with the buckle right over the wheel well it seem it may just have folded in on itself in that area, if the main rail in the back are good, it shouldnt be that bad to fix, but maybe require a new 1/4 which gets into a whole diff issue about that cost to change

TheV6Guy
05-19-2010, 10:52 AM
well i know the 1/4 panel is messed up. like i say in my first posting. as of right now all im worried about if it is possible is getting it moveable agian. if thats possible i might keep it as a project and buy a beater DD. if its totaled then im just gunnaput it on ebay and try to get what ever i can for it.

transmaro93
05-19-2010, 04:04 PM
do your self a favor and look closely at it... look at the passenger side hatch to 1/4 gap... if its really wide and the other side is tucked under like that... it means the frame rails are shifted and will need a frame machine to pull back... judging by how it looks its probably a total.. just in the 1/4 replacement alone depending on how bad it really looks... going by the pics that 1/4 is possibly repairable... do you self a favor and before you go start buying parts really think about if its worth it to fix it... there are plenty of other v6 birds around you can prob even find one in red... hope this helps you a little bit

TheV6Guy
05-19-2010, 05:07 PM
do your self a favor and look closely at it... look at the passenger side hatch to 1/4 gap... if its really wide and the other side is tucked under like that... it means the frame rails are shifted and will need a frame machine to pull back... judging by how it looks its probably a total.. just in the 1/4 replacement alone depending on how bad it really looks... going by the pics that 1/4 is possibly repairable... do you self a favor and before you go start buying parts really think about if its worth it to fix it... there are plenty of other v6 birds around you can prob even find one in red... hope this helps you a little bit

dont worry. this is why im leaving it to my brother to see if its worth fixing. like i keep saying if it is all i plan on doing is replacing the rear and making it moveable agian.

NastyEllEssWon
05-19-2010, 05:58 PM
unibody thats shifted is almost a guarantee total. try to open the doors and see if any are stuck or bang when opening. thats a sure sign its totaled

Mark42
05-19-2010, 06:01 PM
Oh, wow, I just read this thread. That really sucks. Your car was nice and straight, just needed a little paint on the nose.

Call Allamuchy Auto Salvage and see what they want for a full rear end. They seem to have reasonable prices. Check them out here: http://www.allamuchyautorecycling.com/

Good luck and keep us posted on the progress.

edpontiac91
05-19-2010, 06:27 PM
Just wondering, how did this accident happen? If it was partly your fault, you may get some insurance money, but then again the insurance company may well total it.

TheV6Guy
05-19-2010, 07:59 PM
Just wondering, how did this accident happen? If it was partly your fault, you may get some insurance money, but then again the insurance company may well total it.

i dont have collision on my car. i wont get anything for it. like i keep saying if its not totaly bad im going to put a rear in it and make it moveable. im not planning on doing anything else to it. all im gunna do it switch the rear if its possible and im going to most likely put it on ebay amd get what i can for it. i wont know whats going to happen till i get it up on jack stands and my brother checks it out.

TheV6Guy
05-20-2010, 05:32 PM
guys. dont know if any of you can help me out. but im in need of a DD vehicle asap. now the redbirds down for a bit im in desperate help. i dont got to much to spend. 1000 most. can maybe come up with some more. dont need to look pretty or anything i just need something to get me to work and home everyday. if anyone comes across anything please let me know. thanks guys.

smoke_em94
05-20-2010, 08:19 PM
i have a 97 firebird i am parting out

Knipps
05-20-2010, 08:48 PM
I'm willing to bet the insurance co is going to total that. That's a lot of work for a car that's 10+ years old..

TheV6Guy
05-20-2010, 09:52 PM
I'm willing to bet the insurance co is going to total that. That's a lot of work for a car that's 10+ years old..

dont matter what my insurance would say. i didnt have collision on it so it really dont matter.

NastyEllEssWon
05-20-2010, 10:44 PM
what we are saying is that if you only fix the mechanical object to get it rolling again that vehicle is going to be unsafe to drive

creeper
05-20-2010, 10:56 PM
didn't read anything except the original post but a guy on ls1tech in the eastern section has a rear bumper and hatch for free (i think) if you need either

1986IROCZ28
05-20-2010, 11:11 PM
dont matter what my insurance would say. i didnt have collision on it so it really dont matter.

question is was it the other persons fault if so then you gotta talk to their insurance. my mom had a 93 jeep and some punk kid in a honda blew a stop sign and my mom hit him totaling her car. in the end run she walked away with enough to buy another car.. so u might wanna check that out

btownws6
05-20-2010, 11:55 PM
yea def see what the other drivers ins might do and like what was said before even if you replace the rear it might not be safe at all to move and drive around but if you decide to keep it and we can get some people together im sure we could make room at my shop and we can all try to get it together with ya b/c i had my car wrecked and snapped the rim off and everything, 1/4 was crushed on both sides and needed panels all the way around and we fixed it so if you do decide to fix i can help you with the body end of it and it'll cost ya a pizza while we work lol so hope it all works out and let me know how it goes

TheV6Guy
05-21-2010, 11:15 AM
yea def see what the other drivers ins might do and like what was said before even if you replace the rear it might not be safe at all to move and drive around but if you decide to keep it and we can get some people together im sure we could make room at my shop and we can all try to get it together with ya b/c i had my car wrecked and snapped the rim off and everything, 1/4 was crushed on both sides and needed panels all the way around and we fixed it so if you do decide to fix i can help you with the body end of it and it'll cost ya a pizza while we work lol so hope it all works out and let me know how it goes

thanks alot for the offer. ill deff consider this.if the rear is fixable i dont plan on driving it so we dont gotta worry about that. all i wana do it get it moveable to make life easier gettin it on a tow truck something. but ill deff let you know what i plan on doing with it. thanks agian for that awsome offer!

Mike
05-21-2010, 12:22 PM
its not gonna be just the rear. most likely the entire rear suspension and probably the entire rear of the subframe will be way off.

TheV6Guy
05-30-2010, 01:06 PM
well guys. sad to say i think i might be partering with redbird soon. my brother found me a new toy and in order to afford it i gotta get rid of my baby. i hate to do it but as long as this vehicle is in good shape and my brothers approve of it im going to hopefully buy it. wish me luck guys!!

smoke_em94
05-31-2010, 11:25 AM
hey if ur car has drum brakes i have a rear