holy camber batman

[creeper]

On my way to pick up my bellhousing I saw this:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2lxyu7m.jpg

I just don't understand...

[Blacdout96]

The car's so out of control, he needs that camber to stay in control.

[BigAls87Z28]

Hey...time to buy stock in tire companies that cater to drifters.

[BigRocsFirebird]

You mean you guys havent heard? That's the new way to get better traction..

seesh newbs

[Blacdout96]

That car must feel awesome when he gets into the ruts on the parkway from semi's, and on grated bridges.

[NastyEllEssWon]

http://culturegarage.com/images/sized/images/uploads/3959619250_1bc6c7381a_b-498x0.jpg


the vw crowd loves this look :nod:

[bubba428]

it looks like one of the cars from the movie cars.....only sad

[qwikz28]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/JSK86/4680428699_961367ce16_b-1.jpg

camber is used for low. this is my friends car. He is maxed out in camber on the rear. I love that look to be honest. I think that 240 that keith posted is dope.

See hellaflush.com.


Hey...time to buy stock in tire companies that cater to drifters.


done: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/optima-sports-announces-new-camber-tire-technology----93677134.html

[fmybody]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/JSK86/4680428699_961367ce16_b-1.jpg

camber is used for low. this is my friends car. He is maxed out in camber on the rear. I love that look to be honest. I think that 240 that keith posted is dope.

See hellaflush.com.





done: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/optima-sports-announces-new-camber-tire-technology----93677134.html

wait this is a style? i thought they had suspension parts to prevent this?

[69BirdX]

I feel bad for the wheel bearings

[BarneyMobile]

That much camber is pointless!! Real race cars don't even use that much camber.

[BonzoHansen]

That is what happens when you lower a car by heating the 3 (or more) middle spring coils with an acetylene torch. Freaking genius. I love seeing cars like that drive, they get this weird oscillation going when they hit any road unevenness.

[qwikz28]

You guys don't get it. More camber, as well as stretched tires, lets you lower the car more without rubbing the fender wells. It also gives a certain look that the car is broken. It's all for show:
http://hollispark.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rusted5.jpg

I went to a VW car show a week ago and it was awesome. We ran into this guy on the way home. His car was insane.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/4563691048_3d65354494.jpg

I know its not for everyone, but i think it looks awesome. I love it. the scene is huge in Japan too:

http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2010/april/viprimwss.jpg

Ah well.

[fmybody]

You guys don't get it. More camber, as well as stretched tires, lets you lower the car more without rubbing the fender wells. It also gives a certain look that the car is broken. It's all for show:
http://hollispark.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rusted5.jpg

I went to a VW car show a week ago and it was awesome. We ran into this guy on the way home. His car was insane.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/4563691048_3d65354494.jpg

I know its not for everyone, but i think it looks awesome. I love it. the scene is huge in Japan too:

http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2010/april/viprimwss.jpg

Ah well.

i get it as far as it allows u to go a little lower but you can hardly tell in the pics with the e30 and the vdub... that last one just looks retarded imho... isnt that stressfull for the car?

[creeper]

hahah I don't mind it to a certain extent. I think it looks good on VW's and some clean Integras but there's a point where it's just too much.

[BurninrubberGT]

On my way to pick up my bellhousing I saw this:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2lxyu7m.jpg

I just don't understand...

you have obviously never been to waterfest if you think thats a lot of camber :rofl:

That much camber is pointless!! Real race cars don't even use that much camber.

uh, actually, one of the most exciting series in the world run some serious negative camber-

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2326/2518660465_21ea9c2b50.jpg

http://www.themercury.com.au/images/gallery/remote/2009/01/29/52411.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200804/r242572_985773.jpg

[91chevywt]

It looks like tires worn out in 1000 miles to me. What is the point of driving that low? I can understand an air suspension where you would set it down when parked but otherwise I don't get it. What do you do in a car like that when you have to drive over speedbumps?

[BlackTopKing]

I have seen alot of 240's with it done but even then its in modesty....then i have seen some where its like...YOUR KIDDING, RIGHT?

because if someone throws a monster wing on...Some one gets the ideal to put a space ship wing on a kia...Y? i really dont know and most likely never will.

Civic with coffee can tip...OK, 5" exhaust tip on a 2" exhaust...i can live with it.... but the civics with the 55g drum mufflers...WTF

The GSR with a roll call sticker collection of parts not even on the car.... ok, like the look and are saving up for the goodies...
BUT the GSR with every Cracker Joe sticker there was ever made....WHOA!!! you look like a piece of cross country lugage....

its just the same thing.
Somepeople dont care about function....just concept and look...

imagine what the world would be like! had this happened in other areas other then CARS...
like your HOUSE.

I can see it now, couple 3' wire fences turn into a couple of trenton state fences with in a block...

[LTb1ow]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c357/tensecLT1/badlaunchsig.jpg

Only good camber is when the fronts tuck in when you yank em. :)

[fmybody]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c357/tensecLT1/badlaunchsig.jpg

Only good camber is when the fronts tuck in when you yank em. :)

amen.

[B4C]

Stretching, cambered out, and tucking. schweet!!!!

[Kat]

you have obviously never been to waterfest if you think thats a lot of camber :rofl:



uh, actually, one of the most exciting series in the world run some serious negative camber-

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2326/2518660465_21ea9c2b50.jpg

http://www.themercury.com.au/images/gallery/remote/2009/01/29/52411.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200804/r242572_985773.jpg

Yeah like -5 to -7 up front and zero out back.... Go figure.. Next.

[79CamaroDiva]

if that's now a "style" its because people were initially too cheap to get it done right, and everyone just followed.. lowered cars look much better with the wheels completely tucked IMHO

[sweetbmxrider]

i think that massive tip is weighing the rear down actually.

i guess when these guys go for a tire rotation, they actually flip the tire around on the rim?

[NastyEllEssWon]

the thing i dont understand about this ''style'' is that people lower their cars to get better handling....but how does this help at all when it looks like its only riding on 40 percent of the tread :?:

[Tru2Chevy]

the thing i dont understand about this ''style'' is that people lower their cars to get better handling....but how does this help at all when it looks like its only riding on 40 percent of the tread :?:

Because people like this don't lower for handling, they lower for looks.....

- Justin

[Blacdout96]

uh, actually, one of the most exciting series in the world run some serious negative camber-



It's one thing to have serious camber in the front, since when your goign through a turn, the majority of weight is transfered to the front until you accelerate, by that time your usually straightening up, so its not that necessary inthe rear as it is in the front. If you take a look at the photos you have, the front has alot, the rear, minimal.

the thing i dont understand about this ''style'' is that people lower their cars to get better handling....but how does this help at all when it looks like its only riding on 40 percent of the tread :?:

The problem is, this is being done to daily drivers, this trick is for race cars that turn alot. It's not necessary to have it in the rear, especially that much ( see above quote answer) but going down the highway, it is more dangerous then safe to have your rear with such an angle. that lip that you are riding on now grabs anything, and will pull your vehicle. I'm sure we've all experienced that when were in truck ruts on the parkway or in industiral areas, imagine that with a camber angle like that, you look like your warming your tires up for a NASCAR race. Also your creating excessive heat on a small area on the tire, weakening it, creating a possability for a blow out. It's a stupid fad that I see getting outlawed soon. I just lowered my car an inch, and have a little negative camber, and it feels fantastic in a turn, but I dread goign over the bridge to A.C. or when I get on rt.72 to go to work, I'm everywhere, my steerign wheel feels like it's goign to get pulled out of my hands.

[qwikz28]

It's a stupid fad that I see getting outlawed soon.

stupid fad? is it stupid, because you don't like it? I don't think its stupid, does that make me stupid?

[Blacdout96]

stupid fad? is it stupid, because you don't like it? I don't think its stupid, does that make me stupid?

I think your taking it to heart too much. Theres a fine line in any form of modifying somethign where it is cool, and then it gets out of hand. 1* of camber, maybe 1 1/2* tops, not bad, and helps when turning, that is if your willign to take stock in rubber, and live in a area where roads arent warped from large trucks, but when only a fraction of your tire is touching pavement at all times, it is dangerous, regardless of how it looks. I can see if it's a show car, but when your driving amounts of miles in the same position, it is a potential problem. If it's adjustable like wiht airbags, cool, thats sweet, but you need to take a second and think of the negative affects this has compared to the positive.

I have camber on my tires and If I wanted to I could make my rear have 1* ( little heating trick to do that) But I could do without the camber cause I don't race enough to need it. I'm not sayign your dumb, that's your thing, but it's the people who are doing it aren't exactlythe smartest out there when doing this modification.

[qwikz28]

but not everyone cares for racing and high performance. Actually the opposite really. One car I saw with this style had a sticker that said "i <3 driving slow". I agree actually. Roads are getting so crowded and liability too high to go racing around the streets. I just took my camaro out and couldn't open it up half past third. It sucks. Makes me want to just have a car that turns heads. Honestly, I was surprised how many heads turned in my friends Miata.
It makes people mad too, which is part of the objective.

[LTb1ow]

Looks pretty friggen stupid to me, but as you said, everyone is able to what they like...

[79CamaroDiva]

different strokes for different folks....


but it still looks broken ;)

[Featherburner]

stupid fad? is it stupid, because you don't like it? I don't think its stupid, does that make me stupid?Taking a car and intentionally making it unsafe is stupid. Does that make you stupid? If the shoe fits...

[BonzoHansen]

Taking a car and intentionally making it unsafe is stupid. Does that make you stupid? If the shoe fits...

this.....

[NastyEllEssWon]

yeah and its funny that a lot of these people have bigger wheels and wider tires. usually the point of that is to have a bigger wider contact patch with the road....these people missed that point with 40 percent of the tread just spinning around in the air not touching anything. :rofl:

[Blacdout96]

One car I saw with this style had a sticker that said "i <3 driving slow".

I'm sure they like to drive slow, but they still have to obey speed limits, like 65mph on the parkway, which is where the touchy handling comes in to play.

[Blacdout96]

yeah and its funny that a lot of these people have bigger wheels and wider tires. usually the point of that is to have a bigger wider contact patch with the road....these people missed that point with 40 percent of the tread just spinning around in the air not touching anything. :rofl:

They need to do a sillouhette body kit then, not ricer type wide, but old school wide, like IMSA style :drool: solves that problem lol.

[qwikz28]

Taking a car and intentionally making it unsafe is stupid. Does that make you stupid? If the shoe fits...

It's really not that unsafe, all it does is reduce the contact patch. It's sure as hell safer than slicks and skinnies, its safer than removing safety equipment for weight reduction, heck, its safer than many of the mods we put on our cars.

I guess everyone on this board is stupid. And I won't take your comment as an insult since I didn't do it to my own car. I just like the look of it and have driven in a car like it and know what its like

[NastyEllEssWon]

who do you see running skinnies and slicks on the road???? everytime i go to the track i see people putting their track wheels on the car. :nod:


it seems like not only does it reduce contact patch but it cant be good for the supension and wheel studs like that....seems like it would put a big strain on it.

question? how well do you think those cars would be able to pull off an emergency lane change with those wheels???

[BonzoHansen]

It's really not that unsafe, all it does is reduce the contact patch. It's sure as hell safer than slicks and skinnies, its safer than removing safety equipment for weight reduction, heck, its safer than many of the mods we put on our cars.

I guess everyone on this board is stupid. And I won't take your comment as an insult since I didn't do it to my own car. I just like the look of it and have driven in a car like it and know what its like

I'm telling you I've up close seen how a lot of people do this - the wrong way. Absolutely more dangerous. Suspension travel reduced to almost zero, reduction of braking & handling. I'm not disagreeing with some of your points, but that doesn't makes the rice rocket in post #1 any less unsafe or any more acceptable.

[Knipps]

I think ****ing up grammar is when you've made it past the 6th grade is stupid.

[Featherburner]

I think ****ing up grammar is when you've made it past the 6th grade is stupid.Hello pot! :rofl:

[r0nin89]

stupid fad? is it stupid, because you don't like it? I don't think its stupid, does that make me stupid?


I take it you like this stupid **** too?

http://thecarloos.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/donk2.jpg

[NastyEllEssWon]

I take it you like this stupid **** too?





i wouldnt mind owning it....at least undercar maintenance is a breeze :rofl::rofl:

[qwikz28]

I take it you like this stupid **** too?

http://thecarloos.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/donk2.jpg

not particularly, but I also wouldn't call the people who do like it stupid.

I will guarantee that that 240 the OP posted and most of the low cars I've seen will make an emergency lane change better than the lifted jeeps and pickups owned by the members of this board. And don't tell me people don't run slicks and skinnies on the street, I've seen it. My friend's Miata is very nimble, and he has plenty of suspension travel. His car does not crash on bumps, but he does scrape on the road. He has frame gliders so it really isn't that bad.

Again, I wouldn't do it to my own car, but I also wouldn't call it unsafe. Maybe they are causing premature bearing or suspension wear, but that is not really of their concern. Yeah, that ridiculous VW posted on page 1 is stupid because it cannot be driven. I saw it posted that he bent a shock. These cars with 4 degrees of camber at most and scraping the fender wells, are not as dangerous as you guys are making it out to be. Calling it stupid is childish. You guys can't deem a car unsafe until you have facts showing it will not perform the necessary tasks of daily driving. I can promise you that many people think f-bodies are stupid, why does their opinion not count, yet everyone's here is fact?

[BigRocsFirebird]

i think it looks bad not my taste. i wonder how fast tires get worn out

[Featherburner]

not particularly, but I also wouldn't call the people who do like it stupid.

I will guarantee that that 240 the OP posted and most of the low cars I've seen will make an emergency lane change better than the lifted jeeps and pickups owned by the members of this board. And don't tell me people don't run slicks and skinnies on the street, I've seen it. My friend's Miata is very nimble, and he has plenty of suspension travel. His car does not crash on bumps, but he does scrape on the road. He has frame gliders so it really isn't that bad.

Again, I wouldn't do it to my own car, but I also wouldn't call it unsafe. Maybe they are causing premature bearing or suspension wear, but that is not really of their concern. Yeah, that ridiculous VW posted on page 1 is stupid because it cannot be driven. I saw it posted that he bent a shock. These cars with 4 degrees of camber at most and scraping the fender wells, are not as dangerous as you guys are making it out to be. Calling it stupid is childish. You guys can't deem a car unsafe until you have facts showing it will not perform the necessary tasks of daily driving. I can promise you that many people think f-bodies are stupid, why does their opinion not count, yet everyone's here is fact?Jake, when the frame is on the ground the suspension is useless. Not too smart IMO.

[BigRocsFirebird]

talking about skinnys.. how bad is it to daily drive with skinnys

[LTb1ow]

talking about skinnys.. how bad is it to daily drive with skinnys

The Vinmiester does it and no sway bar either *gasp!* when he took me to JS to get my car, I did not notice any difference in driving characteristics.

[BigRocsFirebird]

The Vinmiester does it and no sway bar either *gasp!* when he took me to JS to get my car, I did not notice any difference in driving characteristics.

hmm sounds good, if i don't like the feel i can buy another pair of tires/rims up front and switch whenever i take it to the strip.

[JerzLT1]

skinnies with street tires on them are ok, dont try to run front runners on the street though

[r0nin89]

I can promise you that many people think f-bodies are stupid, why does their opinion not count, yet everyone's here is fact?


Theyre opinion doesnt count cause their stupid. What part of this arent you getting? :rofl:

As far as skinnies and slicks on the street you guys are full of **** that noone does that. The immediate company involved in this conversation might not do it but there are LOADS of guys that as soon as its not sub freezing throw on the skinnies and slicks.

[sweetbmxrider]

It's really not that unsafe, all it does is reduce the contact patch. It's sure as hell safer than slicks and skinnies, its safer than removing safety equipment for weight reduction, heck, its safer than many of the mods we put on our cars.

I guess everyone on this board is stupid. And I won't take your comment as an insult since I didn't do it to my own car. I just like the look of it and have driven in a car like it and know what its like

additional stress on a tires sidewall at anything over 10-15mph is very unsafe. thats why off roaders and drag racers air down at the trails/track and air up before they go. i understand your point to looking good but driving at any speed with half the tire off of the ground and all of the cars weight on the inner sidewall is asking for trouble.

[Tsar]

Theyre opinion doesnt count cause their stupid. What part of this arent you getting? :rofl:

As far as skinnies and slicks on the street you guys are full of **** that noone does that. The immediate company involved in this conversation might not do it but there are LOADS of guys that as soon as its not sub freezing throw on the skinnies and slicks.

Clearly, they are the stupid ones.

And as far as people with slicks and skinnies go, I've seen plenty, especially in Florida. I used to always read posts how the rain came out of nowhere and someone was stuck, or had a couple of holy **** batman moments while driving home. Totally safe considering a lot of those people drove between Orlando and Daytona, and on I-95.

[WildBillyT]

Clearly, they are the stupid ones.

And as far as people with slicks and skinnies go, I've seen plenty, especially in Florida. I used to always read posts how the rain came out of nowhere and someone was stuck, or had a couple of holy **** batman moments while driving home. Totally safe considering a lot of those people drove between Orlando and Daytona, and on I-95.

Yup. Just because we "like" a mod or can justify it in some way doesn't make it safe. Pot, black, and so on.