my new toy

[LTb1ow]

Alright thats good, and just be prepared the tuner may tell you to replace your motor mounts if he starts seeing a ton of knock. May help to make him aware of that too before he starts.

Do you have a LT4 knock module in the PCM?

[bigz28man]

no i dont lt4 knock module.....believe it or not as far as the motor mounts go.....chad over at golen instructed me to go with stock motor mounts.....i know that does sound crazy but its true

[Featherburner]

Are the headers coated? I have read that new coated headers can ruin o2 sensors on initial start up. It's recommended to start the car with old sensors and after a few hours of run time switch to the new sensors.

[bigz28man]

The headers are polished which by the way look like absolute ***** now, anyway i did use the the old stock O2 sensors.

[sweetbmxrider]

You said the engine sensor fuse is good? Check that the black wire on the engine harness side of the o2 connector show ground. Most likely your o2's are bad.

[bigz28man]

Im glad i saved the other set of O2 sensors i bought, at least i can test a theory to find out weather or not the others went bad.

[bigz28man]

Just wanted to give an update with a issue i was having awhile back with shifting through the gears. The car shifts nice an easy now, and tomorrow im pulling the two dummy lights out for the abs and asr lights. I spoke with kieth over at pcmforless, the other issues I'm having the tps and maf sensors will be addressed and fixed when it goes on the dyno. Im going to plug in the new O2 sensors i have and see if that problem still exists. If it does they are being placed in the collectors and i will go from there.

[bigz28man]

Something alittle old and something new. My 1997 Z28 , and 2012 malibu

[bigz28man]

So who's running with 325/50/15 ? Im looking for anyone who has photos, I'm getting no traction and I need wider sneakers in the rear. Was looking at this tire from hoosier. specs says it only 1.6'' taller than what I'm running with now. Also looking for a good set of matching skinnies.

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/hoosier/ho_dot_drwl_ci2_l.jpg

[Tru2Chevy]

So who's running with 325/50/15 ? Im looking for anyone who has photos, I'm getting no traction and I need wider sneakers in the rear. Was looking at this tire from hoosier. specs says it only 1.6'' taller than what I'm running with now. Also looking for a good set of matching skinnies.

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/hoosier/ho_dot_drwl_ci2_l.jpg

Are you looking at these as track only tires, or something to use everyday? Not sure what tire brand / model / size you are running now, but this tire is a full 2" taller than a stock 275/40/17 (25.7"). Between the height and the width I think you will have a rough time trying to get it to fit well with no rubbing.

- Justin

[bigz28man]

Im running with a bfgoodrich kdws 2 295/35/18 now. The car just wants to light up the rear tires through 1st and 2nd gears even going easy in throttle.

[Jersey Mike]

There is an in-between... ET Streets.

[WildBillyT]

Im running with a bfgoodrich kdws 2 295/35/18 now. The car just wants to light up the rear tires through 1st and 2nd gears even going easy in throttle.

For starters, that's an M+S tire with 400 treadwear...

[bigz28man]

Any suggestions on some front and rear tire combos you guys are running. I'll be looking to order something soon from summit.

[coolmanvette75]

Mt et streets

[LTb1ow]

I was running 275/40-17 MT ET street radials on mine, great tire and hooked very well on the street.

Downside is, they are not for everyone, if you are an idiot in the rain/snow, you prob will crash/die/etc

[WildBillyT]

Any suggestions on some front and rear tire combos you guys are running. I'll be looking to order something soon from summit.

Just a dry weather car? Or dry/wet?

[bigz28man]

Car is now sitting at tunetime in lakewood

[bigz28man]

Videos to come

[Blackbirdws6]

Plenty of sticky tire choices depending on how you use the car. Got any numbers yet?

[bigz28man]

Had the O2 issues today, the O2 bungs are now being placed in the collectors. Car is staying over night at tune time, and will go back on the dyno tomorrow. Other than that all the other issues have been worked out.

[bigz28man]

Well, the car will be limping home, its got a rear bad vibration coming from the trans. Josh, and Matt had it up on the lift and did not like what they were hearing or feeling from the trans. Possbily a bad bearing. The car may be leaving on a trialer.

[Blackbirdws6]

Did it have the vibration before you dropped it off? That sucks.

[bigz28man]

Not that i can recall. So the car is out of commission for the rest summer. The trans is getting pulled next week, two week's to tear it down, and atleast another week to get it back in. Also Matt told me to pull the cover off the rear, and re-seal it.

[bigz28man]

anyone have any experience with rpmtransmission? Spoke with them yesterday, l may be going with their level 5 t56 trans, or does anyone have a good direction on where i should go with this? rebuild it or swap it? while it was over at tunetime mike their engine builder said he would rebuild it and make it pretty much bullet proof for 2K. I'm really beginning to hate this car

[WildBillyT]

anyone have any experience with rpmtransmission? Spoke with them yesterday, l may be going with their level 5 t56 trans, or does anyone have a good direction on where i should go with this? rebuild it or swap it? while it was over at tunetime mike their engine builder said he would rebuild it and make it pretty much bullet proof for 2K. I'm really beginning to hate this car

Call our sponsor, Bob Hanlon ->

Does great work.

[bigz28man]

I spoke with Bob's wife, the other day. I may be doing a roadside hand off with him on the trans. So I figured while the car is down for the reminder of the summer i would do the 3 pod A pillar gauge cluster, cant seem to find to many places that sell them for hard top f-bodies, found that speedhut sells them , does anyone else know where i can find this item at? Also should I get mechanical or electrical gauges from auto meter for the pods? also while the car is down i will be pulling out the front seats and painting the seat tracks, I also need a good carpet cleaner, the carpet is in really good shape but I'd like to make it perfect. I will be shimming the starter to get rid of the whinn when i go to start it (damn thing sounds like it has a blower) . Matt over tunetime informed me about pulling the rear cover off my moser rear and replacing the seal, anyone had to just replace the seal on a new rear? Matt said at about 500 miles the seal should be replaced... I said damn, more work.

[sweetbmxrider]

As far as I know, molded 3 pillar pods don't exist for the hardtops. If you can find one, I'd grab it. Usually they just have the kind that screws into the existing plastic. I would run electric gauges too.

[WildBillyT]

I spoke with Bob's wife, the other day. I may be doing a roadside hand off with him on the trans. So I figured while the car is down for the reminder of the summer i would do the 3 pod A pillar gauge cluster, cant seem to find to many places that sell them for hard top f-bodies, found that speedhut sells them , does anyone else know where i can find this item at? Also should I get mechanical or electrical gauges from auto meter for the pods? also while the car is down i will be pulling out the front seats and painting the seat tracks, I also need a good carpet cleaner, the carpet is in really good shape but I'd like to make it perfect. I will be shimming the starter to get rid of the whinn when i go to start it (damn thing sounds like it has a blower) . Matt over tunetime informed me about pulling the rear cover off my moser rear and replacing the seal, anyone had to just replace the seal on a new rear? Matt said at about 500 miles the seal should be replaced... I said damn, more work.

Depends what you are putting up there, but not knowing that I'd run electric gauges.

[bigz28man]

I know there has been many people out there looking for a full A pillar 3 gauge pod for hard-top camaro's so i found this and i just ordered it. speedhut says they have 2 left. I just figured I'd let everyone here know.

http://www.speedhut.com/product_detail-AUTO_NUMBER-727.htm

[bigz28man]

so i'm about to purchase these three gauges from summitracing, but before i do can anyone tell me if I should go with anything different. ATM-2634, ATM-2635, ATM-2645. Or will these do the job. thanks guys

[WildBillyT]

Personally I'd do a shift light instead of the voltmeter.

[bigz28man]

I would do a shift light but where is a good spot to mount it without drilling holes into the car?

[WildBillyT]

I would do a shift light but where is a good spot to mount it without drilling holes into the car?

Autometer makes ones that fit in one of the 3-hole pods. Or you can mount Raptor light basically anywhere.

I just think the voltmeter is a waste of space. You could do a scan gauge there too.

JMO.

[LTb1ow]

Fuel pressure, wideband, and maybe oil temp, but shift light would prob be better.

Other stuff, is cheesy and not really needed.

[WildBillyT]

Fuel pressure, wideband, and maybe oil temp, but shift light would prob be better.

Other stuff, is cheesy and not really needed.

I dunno, a good oil pressure gauge is not a bad idea.

[LTb1ow]

I dunno, a good oil pressure gauge is not a bad idea.

Perhaps, but on a new rebuild its gonna be pegged anyways. At least thats what I have seen from other builds.

Oil pressure is either good, or its not I don't see the need to see the pressure read out in exact accuracy, the stocker was fine for me to show that I had pressure and there was no slow drops in it over time. IMO of course.

[V]

Well, for my 3 extra gauges, I got boost, fuel pressure, and oil pressure. The more I think about it, I agree that I don't actually NEED the oil pressure gauge. I got it originally when I had planned to run a stand alone oiling system for the supercharger and it was going to just monitor that system. As long as the factory gauge shows that there is decent pressure, and exact reading isn't too important. On a full race car, yes Id say it is much more important, but for our basic street-able builds, stock one works. So now I gotta go back and look if I can find a good 3rd gauge to get, or just stick with 2 and change my mounting design.

[WildBillyT]

Perhaps, but on a new rebuild its gonna be pegged anyways. At least thats what I have seen from other builds.

Oil pressure is either good, or its not I don't see the need to see the pressure read out in exact accuracy, the stocker was fine for me to show that I had pressure and there was no slow drops in it over time. IMO of course.

Well, for my 3 extra gauges, I got boost, fuel pressure, and oil pressure. The more I think about it, I agree that I don't actually NEED the oil pressure gauge. I got it originally when I had planned to run a stand alone oiling system for the supercharger and it was going to just monitor that system. As long as the factory gauge shows that there is decent pressure, and exact reading isn't too important. On a full race car, yes Id say it is much more important, but for our basic street-able builds, stock one works. So now I gotta go back and look if I can find a good 3rd gauge to get, or just stick with 2 and change my mounting design.

My thinking was that the stock gauges are sometimes slow and do not react fast, so they can mask a flutter or something like that. I dunno.

[V]

most people wont watch an oil pressure gauge 100% of the time. Most will start the car, wait a few seconds, and look at the gauges, If they show good, thats all we really look for, yes they may be slow to react but if theres a sudden loss of pressure they still work. The split second delay it may have isnt gonna be a make or break situation in most cases. you're still gonna take the time to shut it off and get to the side of the road. Plus the stock gauges have the warning lights too which also in the event of pressure drop to 0, even with an aftermarket oil pressure gauge, will 90% of the time be the reason you know there's an issue.

I guess it really depends on the car though too. In my V, I have so many sensors and lights and warnings, they even come on through the 7" radio screen, that I think ill know if I have any serious oil issues. Also any time I race it at the track, I would be data logging it and reviewing all the runs. If i notice any concerns in the log that the gauge may not have illustrated, i can look at it further.

The stock tachometers are the gauges that most people say are the slowest to react. That's something a little more important to watch exactly to shift and such.

[bigz28man]

Ok so I have some decisions to make, i decieded to hold off on buying the gauges till the a-pillar came in .....which it did yesterday. I'll hit it with some charcoal spray paint and install. I did think about running a fuel pressure gauge only to see what pressure im getting but i figured once i take my reading at the rails do i really need to mointer fuel pressure. IDK i see it as what ever goes there is to help my investment . Thanks again guys, maybe I'll get the car back on the road to finish the summer out.

[bigz28man]

I figured I'd snap a photo of it for you guys.

[sweetbmxrider]

You should do a raptor shift light in that bottom defrost hole. I'd do a fuel pressure gauge, you can be driving and start to have issues and take note if the fuel pressure is correct or not. My pump was failing at high rpms under load which you couldn't determine without a gauge hooked up.

[bigz28man]

Thanks guys for all your help....i know thats what these forums are for, you know everyone lending helpfull advise. So I'll be doing a shift light, water temp, fuel pressure, and oil pressure gauges. Those seem to be the most important. Now once i get this car back on the road, it will be time to figure out how to get every last bit of hp out of this motor. Seeing that this car will never have any power adders ie. pro-charger, i dont know if I'll ever really get any more power out of it.

[bigz28man]

I was wondering, while the underside of the car is apart should I keep the pipping past the y-pipe off, till I get a better cat back system (borla) which wont be till after its painted?

[bigz28man]

Had these waiting on my front door step when i got home today. The UPS driver said to me last week...."man you must have soke kinda car, all i see is boxes of car parts coming to the house" i laughed and said its to bad you cant deliever my trans.

[bigz28man]

Went from this and after alittle bit of scrubbing and painting it, to this. It didn't come out that bad

[bigz28man]

So here is the new t56. Looks pretty badass.

[bigz28man]

Been talking back an forth with east coast superchargers about this new motor, they brought up a point of doing a 24x swap. Wanted to know what you guys thought about it. Would running a ls system be that much beneficial to this new motor?

[LTb1ow]

It makes it easier for them to tune, and makes you doubt that are a capable LT1 tuner.

Unless you repin your own harness, the premade harness from EFI connection is a 4-6 month backorder.

[bigz28man]

Damn thats what i was going to do, i was going to just get the whole kit from efi connections to make my life alittle easier. It's something i want to address in the not so distant future. I have bigger things on my plate with this car and the other car that are approaching. Next winter while im working on the 02' SS i may take this apart and do the swap. I really just want to hear from people that did it, that it was the best thing they have done. I also really need to get it back on the road and get it tuned, then go from there.

[LTb1ow]

If you have any sense in your head, the repin is very easy. (granted I can't say my harness works yet :lol:) The hardware kit and sensors run you bout $600, and the repin kit is a $100, then you need a LS1 pcm, coils, and coil harnesses. I am doing it on my build, just strictly because finding a competent LT1 tuner is entirely too difficult these days.

I would make them tune it, if they said they could then don't let them get out of it.

[bigz28man]

Does the hardware kit include water pump, dampener, and crank case cover? Also do i keep the coil that is on the motor or does that get replaced as well? Also does the icm need to be changed?

[LTb1ow]

Does the hardware kit include water pump, dampener, and crank case cover? Also do i keep the coil that is on the motor or does that get replaced as well? Also does the icm need to be changed?

Uh, what?

The setup just removes the opti, ICM, stock coil, and LT1 PCM.

Then you run a cam sensor, crank sensor, LS1 PCM, and coils. If you have 1996 cover you are fine, since the crank sensor is already there.

[bigz28man]

Off the topic post here, i picked up a few more item for the car while its been off the road. Got new hid head lights and high beams. New oem z28 badges, and 30th anniversary floor mats. Also decieded to rewire my high beams so they stay on when the fog lights are on. I should have no problem seeing at night now:lol:.

[bigz28man]

Ok sorry ,was not sure about the other parts (water pump, dampener). Just checking.

[LTb1ow]

Ok sorry ,was not sure about the other parts (water pump, dampener). Just checking.

No prob, just threw me off a little. Check out blackbirdws6's build thread, he got the full kit from them and it is certainly a very well setup harness and kit.

If you have the money and time, def get their harness, brand new stuff > old OE harness

[bigz28man]

I will definitely check out his build. I will most likely put the car into storage this fall, roll with what i have for next summer, and when the car gets put away for the following winter, it will come apart then. Thanks man

[Blackbirdws6]

The EFI Connection kit was def one of the best choices for my build. Are you working with a standard timing chain or did you move to a double roller? The only tricky part is making sure the reluctor wheel is lined up with the crank sensor in the timing cover. Speaking of which, I didn't notice but if you have a pre-96 LT1, you will need the 96-97 timing cover or splurge and buy the TPIS covers they sell.

[bigz28man]

its 97 lt1, and it has the double rolling timing chain.

[sweetbmxrider]

Tommy at east coast supercharging is well versed in lt1s. I'm sure they won't have any issue tuning it if you go 24x.

[Blackbirdws6]

its 97 lt1, and it has the double rolling timing chain.

Depending on the double roller, you may be fine with the 24x reluctor wheel. Worst case, you get a different timing set. I use the Cloyes 9-3145 which works just fine with the 24x system.

[bigz28man]

Tommy is the person who sugested i go to the ls coils and pcm. He informed that not only is the lt1 software outdated the ls pcm can be tuned easier, it also can handle far more demands then lt1 firering system which tends to cut out at higher rpms. He referred to running an old computer operating system (windows 98 ) in a higher demanding pc. The analogy made sence.

[LTb1ow]

Makes sense sure, but, the LT1 has been running 9s since 1996 or whenever, and they do it with the stock, "outdated" LT1 PCM...

Easier for tuners means less time they need to spend on it, and more money made. You have a very basic setup, it really shouldn't be an issue.

[sweetbmxrider]

More overhead though having lt1 tuning software and corresponding cables. If you can afford it, nothing wrong with converting to 24x.

[LTb1ow]

More overhead though having lt1 tuning software and corresponding cables. If you can afford it, nothing wrong with converting to 24x.

I don't completely agree with that, a cable is maybe $80 and the entire program to tune is again, maybe what, $60? Compared to HPtuners where one credit is $100 and that doesn't get you the program.

IDK, it irks me that a shop said they could do it no problem, and now is trying to push you into a new LS1 system that they can tune easier.

Adam's car was dyno tuned with an LT1 computer and even with the new cam, is on a mailorder, and still runs great.

[sweetbmxrider]

Hundreds of cars verses like a couple lt1s a year, yes it is more cost effective. I think your prices are off too.

[bigz28man]

Just wanted to mention, east coast superchargers wanted nothing to do with the lt1 tuning, informed me (tommy) that if the software was changed to the ls1 software they would do the tune. Tunetime said they would do the tune with no problem. Only problem i see is the dyno being that it is a mustang dyno im going to get lower readings as compared to a dyno jet.

[LTb1ow]

Have you given any thought to calling up Brian at PCMforless for a dyno tune?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Just wanted to mention, east coast superchargers wanted nothing to do with the lt1 tuning, informed me (tommy) that if the software was changed to the ls1 software they would do the tune. Tunetime said they would do the tune with no problem. Only problem i see is the dyno being that it is a mustang dyno im going to get lower readings as compared to a dyno jet.

Do you want a good tune, or a high dyno number?

[Featherburner]

Do you want a good tune, or a high dyno number?

Everybody knows big dyno numbers trump driveability!

[bigz28man]

Well if i could have it my way I wish I could have two tunes...1st one being a high tune for the track, and the 2nd for drivable. I want to see what numbers this motor can put down. Do the math i should be able to put 440 rwhp but who knows what a good driving tune numbers would look like.

[sweetbmxrider]

Ls1 computers have the ability to run two tunes....

[bigz28man]

Had alittle time today, so i decied to paint my bellhousing, came out pretty good

[Featherburner]

Had alittle time today, so i decied to paint my bellhousing, came out pretty good
You've got all that money in the engine, trans, rear...hell the whole car for that matter and you are still running an aluminium bellhousing?

[bigz28man]

Yeah, not totally what i wanted to do but the suggestion was made to stick with so I did.

[Featherburner]

Yeah, not totally what i wanted to do but the suggestion was made to stick with so I did.Here is the one you should have! http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MCL-8760-00/

[bigz28man]

Would have been nice to pick that up but unfortunately im stuck with what i have, the car is going back on the road on the 27th of this month. I thought i would add this photo in for you guys....thats my 1400 lb thoroughbred race horse getting ready to hit the track. Figured I would upload it seeing that he is raw horsepower

[sweetbmxrider]

Where do you keep/race it? Do you jockey it? That's a big horse!

[LTb1ow]

That's a big horse

[bigz28man]

He is stabled out in jackson, he races at monmouth park, belmont, saratoga, philly race park. To give you guys how big he is the woman standing next to him is 6' tall , and thats the hight of his back alone or ( 18 hands ).

[bigz28man]

You guys want to hear something funny? The trans I was sent is a ls t56. Fing'SOB.

[Jersey Mike]

Send that bad boy on over here :D

[sweetbmxrider]

I always get ls parts when I order trans stuff :lol:

[LTb1ow]

I always get ls parts when I order trans stuff :lol:

Same! Even when I sell the part to people, they get the curse too :lol:

[bigz28man]

you know i use the phonetic alphabet every day at work, i guess i should use it also when ordering parts for the car.

[maroman88]

you know i use the phonetic alphabet every day at work, i guess i should use it also when ordering parts for the car.

lima tango 1

[bigz28man]

Found this trailer picking it up towards the end of the month. Picked up this front bumper cover today note it doesn't have a notch in for camaro emblem. Should look really good after paint.

[sweetbmxrider]

Nice trailer, what are you pulling it with?

[bigz28man]

GMC sierra

[sweetbmxrider]

Gas or diesel?

[bigz28man]

gas unfortunately, but for the time being it will do the job

[bigz28man]

Well guys after 2 years of searching I think I found a 1997 OEM SS Hood. The guy informed me it came of a wrecked SS. I asked him to take a picture of the back of it and that I was looking for a serial number and a stamped marking that states "made in canada". hard to tell from this photo

http://images.craigslist.org/5L95I45G63K33p23H2c9878b97d12c6dc1be3.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

That would look good on smash's car

[bigz28man]

Need opinions on badges should I go for OEM style badges or badges from emblempors

1. http://pn.b5z.net/i/u/10012033/i/EtchedZ28set-ONYX__2_.JPG
2. http://www.gscreationsllc.com/images/bowtieZ28.jpg

1 or 2 guys?

[Blackbirdws6]

#1.

[bigz28man]

If that hood is a genuine SLP hood, I would then have two mystic teal SS hoods, never really see that color car the streets.

[Mike]

That looks more blue.

[WildBillyT]

Hard to tell from the lighting but that does not look like code 79 Mystic Teal/Blue Green Chameleon.

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah I thought it was medium quasar blue.

[WildBillyT]

Yeah I thought it was medium quasar blue.

MTM/BGC can look blue depending on lighting.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/double_overdrive496/Trans%20Am/8a7af74a.jpg

vs

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/double_overdrive496/aff7b984.jpg

Same car/color but light and camera settings mess it up.


I agree that looks like MQB though. The lighting has to be "just so" to get no green with MTM.

[bigz28man]

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6286&d=1336629757

It looks a lot like this hood I have sitting in my garage...this is not a SLP hood

this is the add on craigslist, spoke to the guy like I said, he stated "it came off a wreck 97' SS"
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/pts/3259538864.html

[WildBillyT]

Yeah, that's MQB.

[bigz28man]

Well I just ordered black mirror "CAMARO" letters and black mirror Z28 badges from emblempros. The black mirror should look pretty hot on a freshly painted metallic silver car. I choose to leave out the lettering on the badges.

http://pn.b5z.net/zirw/163/i/u/10012033/i/CamaroRearFbody-ONYX_1_.JPG
http://pn.b5z.net/zirw/163/i/u/10012033/i/EtchedZ28set-ONYX__1_.JPG

A good idea of what it looks like
http://pn.b5z.net/i/u/10012033/i/jtuy8thddr__2_.JPG

[Blackbirdws6]

I've purchased from them a while back. I have the stainless ram air grills and stainless Trans Am lettering for the side of the car. Both look just as good as when I first got them many years ago.

[sweetbmxrider]

The camaro on the emblems doesn't look good, glad you didn't go with that.

[bigz28man]

Well the new trans is up and in, small problem arose lastnight when we fired it up. It was surging lastnight. It had always ideled at 800, lastnight night it was at 1000 and surge up to 1300. The only thing i did while the car was up in the air was steam wash the underbody....made sure NOT to near opti. So what gives?

[Blackbirdws6]

Well the new trans is up and in, small problem arose lastnight when we fired it up. It was surging lastnight. It had always ideled at 800, lastnight night it was at 1000 and surge up to 1300. The only thing i did while the car was up in the air was steam wash the underbody....made sure to get near opti. So what gives?

You made sure to get near the opti?

[bigz28man]

Wow typo let me fix that LOL

so here what was tested at 2 in the morning vacuum lines seem good, no codes came up but I'm thinking the knock sensor may have went, its the original one. Also need to check 1,2,4 plugs. Took a temp reading of the headers lastnight 3,5,6,7,8 where all about 570* , 1,2,4 were at about 390*. pulled the valve covers off, all rockers and springs looked good.

[sweetbmxrider]

I'd disconnect the battery, reset the computer and let it relearn. Could be just something stupid or it could be the cold weather its trying to get used to. Start simple like you are doing then go further.

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/2002%20SS%20camaro/2012-09-13_15-34-16_931.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/2002%20SS%20camaro/2012-09-13_15-34-54_931.jpg

here they are boys 97' Z28 and 02' SS

[madness410]

sweet u did get the ss...how much did you buy it for if you dont mind me asking? miles, mods, etc too

[bigz28man]

well to be honest, my soon to be wife surprised me with it. I was going to pass it up but she really wanted me to have this car. It has 126,000 on it... I know its high but hey new motors change all of that. she paid just under 7K for it. The car is pretty much bone stock. I have yet to even speak really with its previous owner. right now its runs better then my 97'. which all came down to an exhaust leak on the driver side causing the the O2 sensor to dump 20% more fuel into the mix. So after it gets back from paint it gets new header gaskets, new spark plugs and Im putting new O2 sensors in it. I'm done screwing with it. That F'er will be running right after that.

[madness410]

haha sounds like a keeper if shes buying you camaros as surprise presents. good luck with all of it

[sweetbmxrider]

That's pretty awesome! If that exhaust is just 1 pipe out the left, I think its an slp exhaust and might be worth a little something to someone.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

That's pretty awesome! If that exhaust is just 1 pipe out the left, I think its an slp exhaust and might be worth a little something to someone.

Both cars have two tips.

[sweetbmxrider]

Shut up, Nick. :lol:

[bigz28man]

if possible please move thread to appearance section

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/image003.jpg

Spoke with Rodger at emblempros, here are what the new badges will look like but in mirror black

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

It's not just an appearance project so that doesn't make much sense, but I moved it to member projects.

[bigz28man]

thanks man

[bigz28man]

Badges and rear CAMARO letters came today, I'll post photos up later

[bigz28man]

crappy photos, it was us the flash and get a big white glare, or no flash and they look unmirrored but never the less they look sick
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-17_20-13-05_201.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-17_20-12-58_658.jpg

[bigz28man]

So the Z is in the body shop, I to have been doing some of the break down of the car so here are some photos I took today of her, and to start off all the problem that were on the body.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-07-44_292.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-04-14_297.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-04-32_215.jpg
damn arm that the frame of the car rests on snapped causing the car to smash down on the arm of the lift goes under the car.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-04-48_918.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-04-59_288.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-05-17_17.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-05-55_509.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-06-10_877.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-06-24_76.jpg

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-06-40_896.jpg
needs to be adjusted
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-06-56_585.jpg
this hood will no longer be on the car
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-06-15_20-07-23_997.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_11-40-58_764_zpsdb4dc2eb.jpg
was time to remove the box
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_11-41-11_12_zps07c577a0.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_11-41-23_491_zps7cb05a4b.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_11-41-36_323_zps09635cd8.jpg
pulled the old badges off and all the fender and door molding is gone:)
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_11-41-49_448_zps2ef9d37f.jpg
new nose going on
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_11-48-03_808_zpsd946a0f4.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_11-48-13_227_zpsf445646d.jpg
right in the garbage

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-02-16_591_zps5e91ab63.jpg
box is completely out now
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-03-03_445_zps08441fc6.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-03-30_111_zps1d955623.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-17-47_433_zps2c742e28.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-20-52_338_zpse6bd89aa.jpg
vinyl letters...time to go soon new Emblempros black mirror letters to come
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-27-13_113_zps8f674ae2.jpg
it was harder to get these letters off then it was to take off all that vinyl on my 02' what a little bastard this was.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-27-45_221_zps36be5ae1.jpg
progress being made......SLOWLY
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-33-07_843_zps91c2e6f6.jpg
done...a half hour was spent on that.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-33-38_791_zpsd4f987ef.jpg

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-33-46_144_zps192f5c55.jpg
rocker panel is defiantly fubar
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-19_12-33-54_306_zps0f8535e8.jpg
remember guys I bought this car in newark off a newark cop, who actually is good friend of mine now, but man this car was in a bad area.

[bigz28man]

So the plan is to have the quarters sanded and prepped ready for paint by the end of this week, also what is coming at the end of this week are the hood, fenders, doors, front and rear windows, rear hatch, berger panel and rear bumper cover. The car will be going into the shed as bare is it can be....completely stripped down.

[bigz28man]

took these the other day, the car is completely stripped down down....photos to come.

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/1348496249827_zps9be8781e.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-24_13-56-30_153.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-24_13-55-14_816.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-24_13-55-31_522.jpg

figured I'd post this photo of the car, a few days before it went into the body shop
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-04_17-22-08_825_zps5ae88e25.jpg

[bigz28man]

some photos from the body shop, new front bumper cover and SS hood tested fitted. they looked pretty good without even making any adjustments, obviously some do need to made.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-27_15-33-53_802.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-27_15-22-00_44.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-27_15-22-22_522.jpg
a huge piece of bondo in the rear driver side quarter
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-27_15-26-22_484.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-27_15-26-34_308.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-27_15-27-01_223.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-27_15-27-13_675.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-09-27_15-29-07_492.jpg

[bigz28man]

I'm thinking about doing a black mirrored 396 badge under the driver side tail light. I know that's not the norm as far as location goes, but i was wondering what you guys thought?

[sweetbmxrider]

That could be cool. Or get rid of the z28 badge but leave the bow tie and do it there under the passenger tail light.

[Blackbirdws6]

That could be cool. Or get rid of the z28 badge but leave the bow tie and do it there under the passenger tail light.

I like this idea better than a badge on the other side.

[Jersey Mike]

Ditto that. Less is more.

[bigz28man]

I think I'll leave it alone. I just cant wait till it's done and submit photos of it to njfboa in hopes that it makes it as car of the month.

[bigz28man]

here are some photos of the Z i took, i guess its something to be happy about seeing that the SS wants to have tranny issues.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-05_13-06-46_789.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-05_13-24-52_624.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-05_13-07-01_406.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-05_13-07-39_130.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-05_13-08-00_869.jpg
^^^^^^^
driver side rocker panel repaired
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-05_13-08-23_584.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-05_13-20-01_884.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-05_13-21-44_719.jpg

[bigz28man]

I took a bunch of photos of the car yesterday which i will upload later. The car should be done by next Friday or the Monday following. I also picked up a 10x20 storage unit for it so it will be put away once its done for the winter.

[bigz28man]

some photos from the body shop the other day
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-02-40_581.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-02-55_212.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-03-07_755.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-03-19_782.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-03-28_976.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-03-40_255.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-04-46_60.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-04-57_114.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-05-11_3.jpg

[bigz28man]

the hood still needs to be sanded and the front bumper needs to be primed and and sanded but its getting there. I was informed that the those two parts would be done today.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-05-30_543.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-12_12-05-41_730.jpg

[greenformula92]

looking good so far

[ar0ck]

God damn this project is coming along nicely!

[bigz28man]

some photos from today. I showed up alittle early was hopping to get there as it was being painted but Mouse told me he was giving me all the photos on a cd.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-32-47_385.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-45-12_43.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-33-02_868.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-33-10_112.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-33-35_72.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-35-21_524.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-36-28_185.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-39-59_201.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-40-45_311.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-15_09-45-02_646.jpg

[bigz28man]

the car has gone a long way since I dropped it off. Still a bunch more that still needs to be prepped and sanded ie. hood, front bumper cover. I also decided to get all new rubber molding around doors, windows, new door hinges. well its getting there.

[sweetbmxrider]

Lots and lots of work, can't wait to see it finished!

[bigz28man]

Well guys the majority of the car is done. All that's left is what you see that needs to be sprayed, put back together, final wet sanding and buffing. the front bumper cover still needs to be cut into and the black gloss applied, where it was on the previous bumper.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-19-50_140.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-01-25_354.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-01-36_730.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-01-55_472.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-02-26_147.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-03-02_397.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-03-14_368.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-03-32_292.jpg

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-03-52_424.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-04-25_158.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-13-22_145.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-13-37_878.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-14-09_507.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-15-20_75.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-15-28_304.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-15-49_230.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-17_13-19-44_60.jpg
Well guys thats it for now. I'll be taking more photos come friday. End of next week and the car will be completely done.

[bigz28man]

Great news everyone, all the parts have been officially painted and are ready to be put back on the car. Also got most of the new window and door molding in today. I'll post photos up later today. To my suprise on how over cast it was today, one photo i took still shows my reflection.

[WSex]

looks great!!

[bigz28man]

so here are the photos from today, I was not able to get photos of the hood, seeing that it was in the paint booth drying.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-19_15-28-18_949.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-19_14-10-40_961.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-19_14-10-55_992.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-19_14-12-21_226.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-19_14-15-18_946.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-19_15-26-46_618.jpg

[bigz28man]

small piece of information here. seeing that GM used various sebring silver paint codes and clear coats as well throughout 95-02. I decided to us the 2002 paint codes seeing that 3/4 of the 02' car will be repainted. Might as well have them match

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-19_15-30-42_745.jpg
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
the photo i took outside the other day when it was really over cast.

everything is back inside for preparation to be put back together the front bumper still needs to taped and cut into with gloss black and the hood still needs to be buffed which will be all done by the end of today
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-40-11_274.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-33-37_500.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-33-51_924.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-34-12_150.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-34-30_494.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-34-48_79.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-35-04_965.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-35-33_645.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-36-25_450.jpg

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-36-43_261.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-37-27_685.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-10-22_12-38-37_193.jpg

[greenformula92]

looks like she turned out really good

[bigz28man]

Thanks man, she is coming along real nicely, better than i anticipated. Mouse just finished the front bumper yesterday. Mouse also informed me that he got alittle behind with collision work which was no problem seeing that I'll be possibly stuck at my PD with this approaching storm.

[bigz28man]

http://s1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/?action=view&current=2012-10-26_12-14-27_9.jpg

[bigz28man]

Well guys the car is 99% complete all that is left to do is put the silver front bowtie on, the rear and fender badges, and front marker blackouts. Bringing her home tomorrow before the next storm comes our way. Here are some photos I took today I'll upload more photos tomorrow.
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-11-05_16-50-09_565.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-11-05_16-49-50_538.jpg
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[maroman88]

looks great!

[sweetbmxrider]

Definitely looks real clean dude

[Blackbirdws6]

Looks like they did a nice job. I'm sure you are happy to have it back.

[bigz28man]

Well guys, shes all done. Just got her home (winter storage unit )
I have to say she looks amazing. I got over to Mouses later then expected today, so i was not able to get photos today. Thanks guys for all the compliments on the car. I'll get photos later in week.

[bigz28man]

hey guys check out this video i recorded of the car the other night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ75prWRx_s&feature=BFa&list=HL1353429618

[bigz28man]

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-11-16_16-23-15_207.jpg

[coolmanvette75]

Cut out the middle of the rear valence and it look much better IMO

[maroman88]

DAT ASS

[bigz28man]

Got some caliper covers for the Z. Here are some before and after photos I took of the rear calipers. I still have have to put the fronts on. Now that I think about it I should have gotten the ones that have "camaro" engraved into them. Oh well I guess the SS will get that.

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj569/bigz28man/1997%20Z28%20camaro/2012-12-18_12-50-51_150_zpse7f70b7a.jpg
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[ar0ck]

Turned out incredible!

[bigz28man]

Need help chasing a demon in this lt1 of mine. Brought the car back to tunetime today. After changing all the plugs, new plug wires, new O2 sensors, and header gaskets. The car is running extremely rich on the driver side. The car has crazy throttle response with no load to it but under load its misfiring and being lazy. I'd like to rule out opti but matt and everyone else seems to be puzzled by this. Would the tps not at the right voltage cause these issues. Oh the car did make just over 360 rwhp, but Matt says it should make much more.

[sweetbmxrider]

What is the tps voltage at? What is the fuel pressure at? What are the o2's reading?

[deadtrend1]

Check to be sure injector and plug wires are all not crossed?

[bigz28man]

All the wires have been checked and are in the proper location, Adam sorry man i dont have those numbers for you, thats something Matt had at but i didnt get

[bigz28man]

quick update. readings on O2 sensors coming out normal, fuel pressure is normal, i did find out that I had injectors 6 & 8 mixed, they were properly relocated and for some reason that fixed the rich reading from +50 % to + 30% on left bank. tps reading .95 volts, this still needs to be adjusted down but thoughts are nothing will change. here are both dyno pulls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adup8r5bNtQ&feature=youtu.be


second pull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNuJ6ei6VIQ&feature=youtu.be

[deadtrend1]

..... i did find out that I had injectors 6 & 8 mixed.....
Damn I'm good. Congrats on the fix.

[bigz28man]

well guys the Z is finally done (for now). I have to say I cant be happier. Turned out it was not the opti after all, just alot of little things working against the motor. the future will bring a 24x kit to the car, but that will be when the opti does go. maybe then I'll procharge the car. Here is its finale pull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoEDNA8sdp8

[Blackbirdws6]

Sounds great.

[sweetbmxrider]

Those numbers are much more appropriate. Congrats on getting it all sorted! Go enjoy it now! :lol:

[greenformula92]

Nice man!! I'll have to keep and eye out for you

[bigz28man]

had both the ladies together the day of my wedding
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[greenformula92]

Saw you last week over by the car wash. Car sounds amazing man

[bigz28man]

Saw you last week over by the car wash. Car sounds amazing man

Thanks man...lol your like the fifth person to mention that they seen/heard the car out. That car sure makes itself known when its in an area. I'd like one for one friday night to get a few guys out to go cruising with.

[greenformula92]

wow a month and a half later lol. I don't have a f-body right now :wink: lol. but I would be in for a Saturday night or something like that after I get a car. I work Friday nights

[bigz28man]

So i decied to take the car out today, noticed check engine light came. Drove the car over to advanced auto to have the code scaned. Both o2 sensors reading no activity. Am i looking at bad o2 sensors or maybe burnt wires?

[WildBillyT]

So i decied to take the car out today, noticed check engine light came. Drove the car over to advanced auto to have the code scaned. Both o2 sensors reading no activity. Am i looking at bad o2 sensors or maybe burnt wires?

Check for burnt wires first.

You may have posted this but are the O2 sensors relatively new? Or are your headers?

[bigz28man]

Check for burnt wires first.

You may have posted this but are the O2 sensors relatively new? Or are your headers?

The o2 sensors are a year old. The headers had to come off last month, the flanges had to milled. Found out that the flanges were not level. So it kept blowing header gaskets. Once the they were milled they were coated with epoxy to stop the the exhaust leaks caused by flange not being true. Then the headers were bolted back onto the heads. I did look under the carthere and i didn't see any wires hanging. So they may be just burnt and not severed completely.

[bigz28man]

Im wondering if i can rule out the opti on this issue

[bigz28man]

So all the O2 wires check out good. Heater element in both are shot. So now just trying to figure out if anything cause them to go or did they just crap out on their own

[bigz28man]

Seeing as thought the stock z28 exhaust tips are garbage and my 396 has cracked them all to hell. I picked up these magnaflow stainless tips and had powder coated black. They should look good pretty good on the car.

[sweetbmxrider]

Diggin the black

[bigz28man]

After some cutting, stretching, and welding the new tips are on. They look great i know it's hard to tell from the photo.

[sweetbmxrider]

Is that a storage unit or shipping container in the driveway? :lol:

[bigz28man]

Is that a storage unit or shipping container in the driveway? :lol:

That be a storage unit sir

[bigz28man]

So the Z will be going up on the lift next week, last year I discovered a small leak of trans fluid. while tune time had it they discovered a oil leak as well. I was told the oil was coming from the oil pan seal and not the rear main. I should have had them fix the oil leak then but 1400 to fix the trans and some other issues caused me to turn down the oil pan seal fix. oh well I guess it just never ends. the repair seems pretty straight forward. drain oil, unbolt motor mounts lift motor slightly unbolt pan, replace seal and repeat steps backwards. Am i missing anything?

[LTb1ow]

Yea pretty much, its a bear of a job

This is where have a tubular K member is a god send,

[bigz28man]

So I was able to fix the oil leak without having to drop the pan. turned out i just had really just reset the pan. though tonight I went to start it and about after 5 minutes of it idling it dies. no SES light warning. I started it again and it dies a minute later, I'm totaling thinking the opti has taken a crap.

I'll pull the MAF sensor wire off tomorrow and see if it stays running to check to see if MAF sensor has gone bad.

[sweetbmxrider]

I would personally check fuel pressure. I would think a bad opti would be a no start or rough idle. Also, if the car hasn't been used in a while, it may need to relearn idle. What happens if you give it throttle while it is running?

[bigz28man]

I would personally check fuel pressure. I would think a bad opti would be a no start or rough idle. Also, if the car hasn't been used in a while, it may need to relearn idle. What happens if you give it throttle while it is running?

I'm going to head over to the storage unit now and check it out now that I have some daylight. Its weird two weeks ago it ran perfect.

[bigz28man]

so after starting the car today it stalled out about 4 minutes or so I remembered the last time i had it out, the fuel tank had gotten pretty low (1/8) so i decided to try some fuel cleaner. I let it run for about 15 minutes tonight at idle...it didn't stall out stayed at constant 1000-1100 range the whole time. I gonna chalk this up to IDFK. I'll be able to get it out next week and see what happens. I'll keep you guys posted.

[bigz28man]

https://youtu.be/OkjNsVmx_Pw
What do you guys think this noise is you can hear it right after I shut the car down. About 14 second mark

[sweetbmxrider]

Hmmm.....maybe an electric motor like the fuel pump or a fan or waterpump? Could you tell where it was coming from roughly?

[bigz28man]

Could you tell where it was coming from roughly?

Naa, without having a second person to shut it off I can't listen from the front. This was on a cold start and the car was running for 10 minutes. Will the fans kick on low at that point?

[sweetbmxrider]

So it was from the front? That rules out fuel pump.

Depends but the fans could have kicked on at that point.