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WSex
10-22-2012, 09:11 PM
no reading.
and anyone know what sensor that is cant find connection cant stray too far anyways.

V
10-22-2012, 09:15 PM
its most likely coolant temp or an egr/A.I.R connector

WSex
10-22-2012, 09:17 PM
thanks paul ill look for i in the am

NastyEllEssWon
10-23-2012, 05:38 AM
this was a good read. thanks for this thread :D

WSex
10-23-2012, 07:22 AM
yup all that matter is that it purrs like a kitten!

MyFirstZ
10-23-2012, 07:29 AM
if you have no coolant temp its probably the connector for your coolant temp sensor in the side of the driver side head. since that is your steering shaft I see pretty positive it will be. cant think of any other sensors on that side that would look like that.

Front of the head by the first exhaust primary, I think if you move the wiring harness inthe picture to the right we would see the sensor

WSex
10-23-2012, 07:40 AM
if you have no coolant temp its probably the connector for your coolant temp sensor in the side of the driver side head. since that is your steering shaft I see pretty positive it will be. cant think of any other sensors on that side that would look like that.

Front of the head by the first exhaust primary, I think if you move the wiring harness inthe picture to the right we would see the sensor

yeah thatll be it 1 problem lost the sensor itself.
ill just pick one up with the oil pressure sending unit.
thank you:)

MyFirstZ
10-23-2012, 10:11 AM
Make sure you have the proper socket to do the level sensor. Most part stores will have the socket in stock.

WSex
10-23-2012, 01:32 PM
Make sure you have the proper socket to do the level sensor. Most part stores will have the socket in stock.

think i can get it with the intake placed or pull it out?

MyFirstZ
10-23-2012, 02:08 PM
Not worth the trouble just take it out. Sometimes short cutting isn't worth it if you were flat rate and trying to make time and don't care about scratching the **** out of your arm from the studs on the coil bracket and the push pins on the plastic cowl then yeah..

I dont know if you can anyway, I think that back part of teh intake would be in your way and it would be really hard to get the right socket, extension combination that would give you the room you need without braking some other fragile piece back there . . .

Jersey Mike
10-23-2012, 04:40 PM
I pulled the intake when I did my OPSU. I'd replace it pronto, by the way.

WSex
10-23-2012, 07:49 PM
took it out went fir a drive ordered a 1.5 inch smaller belt to accomidate the ud pulley but wasnt enough on the side of the road on my maiden voyage
********..

LTb1ow
10-23-2012, 08:29 PM
Thats a bitch

WSex
10-23-2012, 09:14 PM
i replaced the sensor
just those hard to reach allen bolts on the intake kill me.

V
10-23-2012, 09:42 PM
gm used allen head bolts?

MyFirstZ
10-23-2012, 09:47 PM
gm used allen head bolts?


Couldn't get to it fast enough. I think every bolt attached to the intake or anything that has to come off is bolted down by a 10 or 8mm head bolt

WSex
10-23-2012, 09:59 PM
my wilson fast intake is allen bolts
car runs great other than the charging issue
it got down to 8v while ripping through the ghetto of east orange. made it to 280 and it started to fail so pulled my self over on a deep shoulder and got flatbedded home
and the exhaust is hitting on the body will get it straigtened out tomorrow

deadtrend1
10-23-2012, 10:10 PM
I'm no expert in mechanics, but i would think that the belt problem and charging problem were related.

WSex
10-23-2012, 10:13 PM
I'm no expert in mechanics, but i would think that the belt problem and charging problem were related.

yes lol thats what i intended.
i had ordered 1.5 inch smaller for the 25%ud but it just wasnt enough.
going to get one 2.5 inches smaller than factory tomorrow

WSex
10-23-2012, 10:24 PM
so here goes my past week

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whaaaTs this? hanging out in my number 2 lifter tray i only had broken rocker 5 a year ago.
now i see why the car was sold..

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rubba rub rub rub
20$ per valve oouuuuuchh


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my partner in crime

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and ohhh bitch take me home
0.00$


got the scarecrow watching it over night.
babied it only to 3k rpm going to let it break in real well.

WSex
10-23-2012, 10:35 PM
parts used

king bearings
arp rod studs
arp main studs
double roller timing set
25% ud puller tested to 12,500 rpm
smaller belt but not small enough
gaskets
rear main seal and front seal
new motor mounts
comp cam lifters which im pretty sure theyre ls7 lifters machined out a bit.
stock head gaskets
190,000 psi head studs
made in china.
exhaust wrap for the headers bc my feet would get way hot.
sub frame connectors from corey lt1 along with the front rotors since the back wouldnt fit due to the emergency brake shoes being larger than the ones from the lt1( who ever wants the rears come get it.)

all of this was done with 2 stands a cherry picker a jack 60$ in mixed tools at harbor freight and a snap on torque wrench+ lithium 18v 1/2 inch gun.

thank god i didnt end up ising a gallon of gas an a torch.
everything was quite easy.

WSex
10-24-2012, 07:55 AM
yeah z i have the car running.
i put tye studs on 1st but the studs have an allen jey opening ontop if you prefer to put them onafter you seat the head.
biggest pain is getting the gasket through all 15 studs those things are sharp and cut me wideopen.
some of my blood is in the cooling system.

myfirstz- guess you read up a bit more

MyFirstZ
10-24-2012, 08:22 AM
Yeah read the parts list and that was it lol

Then went back up

LTb1ow
10-24-2012, 09:57 AM
So what did you torque the studs to?

WSex
10-24-2012, 11:02 AM
25,45, 65
divided those by 5 and steptorqued in those increments.

...25 for the small ones
45 for the 2 end ones
and 65 on the big ones


anyways but a smaller belt but didnt resolve still not charging.
ughhh just wanna drive this thing

LTb1ow
10-24-2012, 11:04 AM
Not the head stud nuts, the studs themselves.

And what did you use to seal the studs to block?

WSex
10-24-2012, 11:14 AM
Not the head stud nuts, the studs themselves.

And what did you use to seal the studs to block?

finger tight
used sime left over arp sauce.

anyways going to go play with the alternator which in my opinion is like playing with traffic..

WSex
10-24-2012, 11:48 AM
did some research and seems that eeryone runs 25%ud at 550 idle no problem.
i dont know why it isnt charging especially at 1000 idle.
any idead anybody?

sweetbmxrider
10-24-2012, 12:17 PM
Maybe you need a smaller pulley on the alternator so it should accelerate faster that way thus increasing thruster bearing output to compensate for the high idle with the shorter belt meaning less miles traveled per rpm revolution to overcome the low charge frequency

WSex
10-24-2012, 01:04 PM
yes but im at 1000 rpm 25% of that is 250 so the belt is doing 750 rpm which is enough to handle stock alt pulley
im going to make sure i dont have any loose connections.

V
10-24-2012, 01:33 PM
is the alt exciter terminal seeing a signal?

WSex
10-24-2012, 02:03 PM
is the alt exciter terminal seeing a signal?

just pulled the dusty multimeter out
is that the one that goes up to the buse box?
going to see if i get somewhere around 13 volts there and make sure its not battery voltage

WSex
10-24-2012, 03:16 PM
voltage just goes down .01 volts per second
occasionally after it would drop 2 volts it woul jump .5 volts
nothing ever over 12.5
no dofference at 2k rpm

V
10-24-2012, 03:55 PM
so thats the output.. whats the signal at the exciter wire?

WSex
10-24-2012, 04:18 PM
so thats the output.. whats the signal at the exciter wire?

which ones that:(

V
10-24-2012, 04:24 PM
theres a plug going to the alt. Not the power output terminal.
It should have ignition ground and exciter, or a combination of those or even just one wire. That wire is controlled by the dash wiring/cluster in order to tell the alt when to switch the internal voltage regulator one. if that wire doesn't get signal, the alt wont put out voltage.

WSex
10-24-2012, 05:06 PM
theres a plug going to the alt. Not the power output terminal.
It should have ignition ground and exciter, or a combination of those or even just one wire. That wire is controlled by the dash wiring/cluster in order to tell the alt when to switch the internal voltage regulator one. if that wire doesn't get signal, the alt wont put out voltage.

matter of fact i have to see if thats even connected.
what junction does that wite lead to.
runs same path as the injectirs or battery cable.?
know what i mean?

WSex
10-24-2012, 06:07 PM
yeah now that i recall i dont eemember plugging it in.

Mike
10-24-2012, 06:10 PM
Sooo rather than make three post about it, go outside and check

The_Bishop
10-24-2012, 06:22 PM
yeah now that i recall i dont eemember plugging it in.

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

:bertstare:

WSex
10-25-2012, 01:54 PM
well it was plugged but wire was ripped couldnt find it anywhere.
i see its red but where does it come from
i want to drive thiss thing like now.
im considering a tantrum... jk.

LTb1ow
10-25-2012, 02:08 PM
Just splice in a wire from the battery hot.

WSex
10-25-2012, 02:24 PM
Just splice in a wire from the battery hot.

thas it?
i thought it was ecm controlled.
will do so in a few

LTb1ow
10-25-2012, 02:47 PM
As much as I would love to say yes, please don't do that.

BonzoHansen
10-25-2012, 02:51 PM
This thread continues to deliver.

What are we talking about, this plug into the alternator?

http://images.wrenchead.com/smartpages/partinfo_resize/DUS/PT1136.jpg

WSex
10-25-2012, 02:57 PM
This thread continues to deliver.

What are we talking about, this plug into the alternator?

http://images.wrenchead.com/smartpages/partinfo_resize/DUS/PT1136.jpg


thats the one.

ltblow youre an ass lol i figured it wouldnt be that easy.

BonzoHansen
10-25-2012, 02:59 PM
if you screwed it up go down to the store and buy a new pigtail and splice it in. IIRC there are 2 wires. Brown is the trigger wire, the larger red one is voltage sensing. The big red one on the BAT terminal does the charging.

Mike
10-25-2012, 03:37 PM
Some just have one wire

BonzoHansen
10-25-2012, 03:39 PM
Some just have one wire

i saw that somewhere. which one? just the red i'd assume.

Mike
10-25-2012, 03:42 PM
Yeah my 99 is a single red wire

LTb1ow
10-25-2012, 04:25 PM
My 95 is a one wire as well.

WSex
10-25-2012, 06:03 PM
i have a single red wire.
now i have the connector with 3 feet of red wire
but where would i locate to splice.
sorry im a little lost here

WSex
10-25-2012, 06:07 PM
i found it i found it yay yay yayayayayyayay
going to solder shrink wrap and then buy me a fire extinguisher!

V
10-25-2012, 06:33 PM
yea... that broken wire would case a charging issue.


if it burns.... i do buy wrecks and such...
but lets hope it doesn't come to that.

WSex
10-25-2012, 06:57 PM
after 6 stressful weeks i want to thank everyone.
this thread had its ups and downs ...mostly downs.
and i did take plenty of advice, was a pleasure.

thank you all in general:)


feel free to lock this thread up.

grazi
10-25-2012, 07:09 PM
Wheres the celebratory burnout donut video?
:helmet:

BonzoHansen
10-25-2012, 07:49 PM
after 6 stressful weeks i want to thank everyone.
this thread had its ups and downs ...mostly downs.
and i did take plenty of advice, was a pleasure.

thank you all in general:)


feel free to lock this thread up.

:facepalm:

WSex
10-25-2012, 08:03 PM
Wheres the celebratory burnout donut video?
:helmet:

the brakes havent been bled enough for that but heres one i did in canada this past june.
mods dont worry burnouts were mandated by the civilians

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jerking throttle at 3.5k

WildBillyT
10-25-2012, 08:24 PM
There are a lot of Portuguese in Canada I guess :D

WSex
10-26-2012, 12:19 AM
after a 15 mile drive came back looked under and its losing coolant 1 drop at a time
felt around the heads but dry
i had the coolant plugs hand tigtened pretty snug will make sure none are looser than i thought tomorrow

WSex
10-26-2012, 12:24 AM
There are a lot of Portuguese in Canada I guess :D

yeah its crazy pork and cheeses everywhere

LTb1ow
10-26-2012, 07:22 AM
Good news your head studs are leaking as they should.

Way to listen to the internet.

LS1 != diesel.

WSex
10-26-2012, 08:43 AM
LS1 Head bolt/studs do not go into the water jackets like gen I and gen II LT1 small blocks....

i was reading up on metal head gaskets that people usually spray them with some adhesive.
i havent found the source but ill just give them an extra 5 pounds to see if it reaolves anything

WildBillyT
10-26-2012, 08:45 AM
Disregard. I was going off of AFR's recommendations but I guess that's not accurate for the LS1.

LTb1ow
10-26-2012, 08:46 AM
What if you torque em enough, will they strike gold?

WSex
10-26-2012, 08:48 AM
What if you torque em enough, will they strike gold?

idk let me check with my torque to snap setting on my torque wrench.

LTb1ow
10-26-2012, 09:06 AM
Torque wrench?

3/4 impact gun them in.

WSex
10-26-2012, 09:13 AM
Torque wrench?

3/4 impact gun them in.


dont own one of those.
i got the big 1 inch though! the long barreled ones for truck tires.
but id have to stand ontop of my car but dont want to damage the paint so yano?

but how do you think i tigtened the oil pan.
dont want them to leak, petroleum products are costly.
1 inch impact clankclankclankclankx10

BonzoHansen
10-26-2012, 09:15 AM
but how do you think i tigtened the oil pan.
dont want them to leak, petroleum products are costly.
1 inch impact clankclankclankclankx10
that is sarcasm right? with this thread it is hard to tell

WSex
10-26-2012, 09:19 AM
that is sarcasm right? with this thread it is hard to tell

yes,
why would it be hard havent done anything too beyond the line so far

L695speed
10-26-2012, 11:56 AM
If it is leaking from the head studs...this is why they sell Indian head shellac compound.....

donnj
10-26-2012, 06:52 PM
"feel free to lock this thread up. "

oh no, you spoke too soon.....

I once heard if you dump alot of black ground pepper into the coolant it also helps with leaks, altho I could have heard wrong

WSex
10-26-2012, 07:06 PM
"feel free to lock this thread up. "

oh no, you spoke too soon.....

I once heard if you dump alot of black ground pepper into the coolant it also helps with leaks, altho I could have heard wrong


yes i spoke way too soon,

but i got better advice. if you remove all the coolant from the system you get no leaks. hmm decisions decisions.
tightened up the plugs on the back of the heads. still havent gained the courage to check it out.

LTb1ow
10-27-2012, 09:53 AM
Doesn't an LS1 have that stupid crossover thing under the intake with 4 bolts holding the fittings down? Check that maybe?

Temp sender in head tight?

Check for a leak down test or compression check to see if you blew the HG?

Drain coolant and run liquid molten sodium as a coolant?

Rip it all out and throw in a common rail?

Que?

WSex
10-27-2012, 10:56 AM
Doesn't an LS1 have that stupid crossover thing under the intake with 4 bolts holding the fittings down? Check that maybe?

Temp sender in head tight?

Check for a leak down test or compression check to see if you blew the HG?

Drain coolant and run liquid molten sodium as a coolant?

Rip it all out and throw in a common rail?

Que?



all i heard was high pressure common rail.:)))



yeah has the crossover in front and 2 plugs on back
i tried to make it leak but it stopped.
i dont believe problems resolve themselves but this time im going to pretend it did

donnj
10-29-2012, 12:10 PM
still dry sex?

WSex
10-29-2012, 12:14 PM
still dry sex?

yessir 60 year old dry..

WSex
11-11-2012, 07:02 PM
250 miles later and many many pulls oil pressure went to 20 pounds at idle 50 cold.
but today it went to 0 and when reved to 3k it would go up to 10. no clanking or knocking. the sending unit is new. but looked ****** to begin with(got it at a local parts store).

anyways, going to pick up a manual gauge tomorrow. is there anywhere else i can hook it up to or has to be behind intake?
if its bad then i wouldnt know where to look but change the factory stock oil pump.

at time of rebuild i wasnt able to put on the melling high pressure/volume pump. the double timing set made the pump come further back which caused the cover to not sit correctly.
does anyone know of a pump that i can get that will let the cover sit?

V
11-11-2012, 08:29 PM
i have a stock filter bypass plate for LS engines, already drilled and tapped for a 1/8" npt sender. $20 shipped

WSex
11-12-2012, 05:26 AM
i have a stock filter bypass plate for LS engines, already drilled and tapped for a 1/8" npt sender. $20 shipped

trade for a 55 gallon drum?

V
11-12-2012, 08:07 AM
trade for a 55 gallon drum?

sure

Mike
11-12-2012, 10:57 AM
If my oil pressure showed 0 I would deffinatly rev it to 3k

WSex
11-12-2012, 03:04 PM
started up tempermental tina and she gave me oil pressure on my dash again.
this time only 40 pounds at cold.

Mike
11-13-2012, 12:32 AM
Are you relying on the stock cluster for these readings?

The_Bishop
11-13-2012, 05:24 AM
Sounds like it.