Satin Colors

[ar0ck]

Thinking of going a different direction with my new toy, the car is currently Mystic Teal Blue, but will require some paint work. I'm considering two options, painting or vinyl wrapping. If anyone has seen the latest GM High Tech, the owner of that flat olive drab green LS1 Camaro with the big turbo had peaked my interest in the entire idea as it is a vinyl wrap job. I know Jake has tried the flat black route with his Camaro as well with mixed results, but I wanted to get some other people take on both routes.

Heres two examples I cam across on LS1Tech:
http://images.highperformancepontiac.com/images/hppp_0809_08_z+trans_am+front_view.jpg
http://images.highperformancepontiac.com/images/hppp_0809_02_z+2000_trans_am+top_view.jpg

I'm worried that painting wouldn't blend very well.

[sweetbmxrider]

Budget way would be wrapping if you do it yourself and it isn't permanent for resales. Also easy to repair if something happens or if you get a new body panel you don't have to worry about matching paint. I have been thinking about it for my car but I would paint mine only because I have access to a body shop. I love checking paint jobs out before they get cleared, they look pretty damn awesome. What color are you thinking about?

[LTb1ow]

Seems to work for exotics, but, I am partial to the look.

A satin MQB or SOM would be sweet.

[ar0ck]

Have you found any places that sell the wrap? Does it come in sheets? I'm thinking of staying with that blue satin just like the Trans Am above, blue has always been one of my favorite colors. I'm also looking into the painting route as well, i've got a few friends left that do it, so I put out some feelers for a price.

I'd prefer to have it painted personally, I want everything perfect

[BonzoHansen]

Ask rich why satin is not a good option for a street car.


Imo it's trendy and will look dated in a few years.

[ar0ck]

How do you even go about washing a wrap too, just thought of that angle? You can't wax it or polish it.

[sweetbmxrider]

Seems to work for exotics, but, I am partial to the look.

A satin MQB or SOM would be sweet.

Metallics won't look the same without gloss clear over them. It will look cool no doubt, just not the same as you'd think.

Have you found any places that sell the wrap? Does it come in sheets? I'm thinking of staying with that blue satin just like the Trans Am above, blue has always been one of my favorite colors. I'm also looking into the painting route as well, i've got a few friends left that do it, so I put out some feelers for a price.

I'd prefer to have it painted personally, I want everything perfect

I believe most everyone buys a roll of vinyl and goes to town. Kirkevil has his sources, I'd ask him.

[LTb1ow]

http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/xVSR15.jpg

Dat Arock mobile

[ar0ck]

Hit the nail on the head right there.

[unstable bob gable]

I'm doing my new ride in satin black paint. Gonna be a base coat/clear coat so I can still wax it for protection and ease of clean up. I need to be able to clean off bird poop and such. From what I hear, wraps are only good for 4-5 years on a daily driven type car, and they can be a beyotch to remove after long periods of time. I know the matte look ain't for every one, but I've been dying to do a car like this forever, so I'm in it for the long haul.

[edpontiac91]

Years ago, if your car looked like this Flat Satin craze, everybody would say how come you never waxed your car and look how badly it has faded. When you see 2 Audi's side by side, the gloss finish just pops, but the satin is just different enough that some people say WOW. Sorta like the ricers that put lime yellow wheels on their blue cars and think that's sharp. It's your car and do to it whatever makes YOU satisfied, that's important.

You have to be very careful when cleaning these finishes. DO NOT rub too hard when washing/ or applying any wax. If you do, there will be an area where it will be shiny and there is no way to dull it back again to blend in with the rest of the paint.

[grazi]

That first TA is pretty mean

[transmaro93]

satin can look cool... but its very tough to paint to have it come out really nice. so do your research and find somone really good at it if you go paint route. paint will be hard to keep super clean but any of the exterior satin paints are made to withstand the weather and road abuse. just cant really be waxed or buffed. If you get it painted get extra paint because if you crash or scratch it youll have to repaint an entire panel and it cannot be blended out so youll need to have extra paint of the exact mix you sprayed with. Paint will probably last longer

as said above the vinyl wrap probably wont last forever but is removable. But the satin color vinyls seem to breakdown and dry out from the sun alot faster than the shiny ones. They will crack in little peices. and removal will be a nightmare on such a big scale. hope this helps out a little and good luck with what ever you decide to do... that blue 5th gen camaro is pretty cool looken up there

[unstable bob gable]

http://www.drbeasleys.com/matte-paint-prescription.html

[MyFirstZ]

Google BMW frozen colors

Frozen black
Frozen grey
Frozen blue not sure of the exact.
Frozen bronze metallic

I have seen all but the blue in person and they are gorgeous. As far as the wrap most places that install the paint protection film can do it. But its not cheap by any means.

[coolmanvette75]

A satin som or similar burnt orange color with either bronze or gunmetal rims would look sick IMO...

[ar0ck]

Now I'm really thinking far out in left field here, but has anyone heard of Plasti-Dip?

Original LS1Tech thread:
http://ls1tech.com/forums/paint-body-work/1443836-plasti-dip-faq-pics.html

A car completely painted with this:
http://g35driver.com/forums/dfw-g35-owners-club/365391-worlds-first-infamous-plastidip-g35-2.html

Just alternative methods to a DIY unique paint job that isn't temporary.

[Lt1_8U]

I sprayed my brothers friends older cavalier. It came out great but again any body or paint blemishes will show. Buy a cheap harbor freight gun to spray it. Best 15 dollars you can spend. They are great for shooting primer too

[maroman88]

i dipped my blazers wheels last fall... that ****s tough after all the mudding and rock crawling, leaf piles, snow piles and such, its still going strong, only missing spots is where a chunk of aluminum wheel also came off lol

also tested out some stripe patterns on the vettes hood and then peeled it right off

[donnj]

satin might be a fad but this color IMO nails it,

[Jersey Mike]

Frozen bronze metallic

I can't speak for the others, as I haven't seen them in person, but this color looked incredible in person.


Don't do Plasti-Dip, please.

[HardcoreZ28]

Satin is in fact very tricky. Whatever comes out of the gun is what you're left with as you can't cut and buff it. You can either go with a flat single stage or run a standard base coat with a flat clear. The clear will give you better protection against the elements but as stated earlier you can't polish it or even rub it too hard when you wax it. I've had a flat clear on my Harley for about 4 years now and it's still holding up great. The bike has a nice satin finish to it and wax brings it up nicely without turning it to gloss.

[ar0ck]

I'm constantly going back and forth, and the more I think about it, the more an actual paint job is far out of reach at this time. I'd love to try something different, and i'm definitely leaning towards Vinyl wrap and attempting to tackle it myself.

Some of the 3M distributers market a 2Dr coup as 40ftx5ft, and a 4Dr Sedan at 50ftx5ft. at close to $500 for the larger 4Dr roll, which I think would better suit a F-Body. All of that for a fraction of the cost of a paint job.

Thoughts?

They've got all sorts of colors, and some that have struck my attention are Gloss Sterling Silver, Matte Grey Aluminum, Matte Silver, Gloss Burnt Orange, & Black Carbon Fiber (For the Sail Panel maybe?)

I've got to much time in Afghanyland.

[ar0ck]

For example: 3M's Matte Dark Grey

http://autovinylsolutions.com/image/cache/data/Matte%20Grey%20BMW-500x500.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

Just do it.

[WildBillyT]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/622242_10151242295513930_269564636_o.jpg

[Lt1_8U]

Oh mah gawd. That vette looks amazing

[BonzoHansen]

amazingly dull. make that same color shine and I'm on board.

[sweetbmxrider]

Silly old men, it looks amazingly bad ass.

[BonzoHansen]

dull and trendy. you know nothing, you like lt1s.

[Jersey Mike]

Would make babies with.

[sweetbmxrider]

dull and trendy. you know nothing, you like lt1s.

Primer cars weren't bad ass back in your early years?

[BonzoHansen]

no, they were the domain of poor folk and likely half-ass cars.

imo these flats are cool because they are different. like pastel colors in the lase 80s/early 90s and recently two tones

trendy paint is cool if you have the scratch to do it again in 10 years and decide resale value matters not. even though it always does.

[ar0ck]

trendy paint is cool if you have the scratch to do it again in 10 years and decide resale value matters not. even though it always does.

This is where I think the Vinyl fits in perfect, lasts lets say 3-4 years, trend dies, Vinyl comes off. Its win win.

[LTb1ow]

This is where I think the Vinyl fits in perfect, lasts lets say 3-4 years, trend dies, Vinyl comes off. Its win win.

And it protects the paint under it from road debris damage. Win win win.

[BonzoHansen]

This is where I think the Vinyl fits in perfect, lasts lets say 3-4 years, trend dies, Vinyl comes off. Its win win.

i agree with that if cost is reasonable and it really doesn't hurt the paint coming off years later.

[BigAls87Z28]

I agree with the fact that it is a trend, but it's a trend that has been going on for much longer than I thought. Usually once OEMs get into the game, it's usually time to get out. Everyone from Bentley to Hyundai has a flat or matte paint option for their cars.
Looks great at autoshows, but that first time you see bird **** on the hood....I don't want to be there.

[unstable bob gable]

unstable bob gable says people should do what the hell they want to do, screw what's "in or not in." God, if every one was a follower there would be nothing but red '69 Camiros at car shows!

[BigAls87Z28]

Bob....that's exactly all I see at car shows.

[LS1ow]

plastidip is your friend Alex.

[ar0ck]

plastidip is your friend Alex.

Tell me about it :lol: I've been searching the internet high & low for different ideas. I want to know about it as much as possible before I commit, because it seems pretty new to me, granted I've been out of the game for a little while. I priced everything out for a complete car, to just doing the wheels. If i'm going to do this I'm going to do it once, and do it right.

The one site I've been looking at is dipyourcar.com they sell complete kits for automotive. They have a pretty nice Flat navy blue color similar to the Camaro that was posted earlier.

I have a buddy whos willing to paint the hood, front & rear bumpers for $600. The guys good, but my main concern is the Mystic color matching from front to back regardless of blending. If I plasti-dip I can lay down one solid matte color.

[Blackbirdws6]

If you are looking to do it once, plastidip won't be an option unless you just want to see how it would look. Do you have a render of how you want the car to look? Does your friend have any samples to look at for reference that could be helpful?

[ar0ck]

If you are looking to do it once, plastidip won't be an option unless you just want to see how it would look. Do you have a render of how you want the car to look? Does your friend have any samples to look at for reference that could be helpful?

Let me re-frase, "looking to do it once". I'm all for the temporary solution the Plasti-dip or Vinyl offer as far as a life span of lets say a few short years. I change my mind often, and who knows I may end up selling the car sometime in the future, I can always know that theres a fair paint job underneath unscathed by the elements. At least the new skin can protect that even if its only temporary.

I want to find the best of these temporary inexpensive solutions and get the right color.

[ar0ck]

Some examples of the Plasti-dip

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/481519_413055428765553_1673448540_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/406581_417505954987167_949316069_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/67720_417211651683264_1380103249_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/9184_416566981747731_65921252_n.jpg

www.dipyourcar.com offers a complete car kit for $300 vs a $600 paint job with questionable matching due to a difficult color. The DIY Kit I can shoot myself with the help of Ted in a weekend.

I'm just mulling about here, i'm pretty sure this is the route i'm going just narrowing everything down.

[Blackbirdws6]

Let me re-frase, "looking to do it once". I'm all for the temporary solution the Plasti-dip or Vinyl offer as far as a life span of lets say a few short years. I change my mind often, and who knows I may end up selling the car sometime in the future, I can always know that theres a fair paint job underneath unscathed by the elements. At least the new skin can protect that even if its only temporary.

I want to find the best of these temporary inexpensive solutions and get the right color.

Ahh. I thought you meant do it once as in, last for a long time. Not, do it once and simply do it minus the rattle can. I got you now. If the finished product can come out that uniformly as you have shown in the pics while still being relatively easy to remove, then that's not bad at all.

[LS1ow]

in the few weeks ive been threw 35 spray cans of plastidip and 1 car kit. The stuff really is amazing and if you dont like it it will peel right off. Not hard to do at all. I plastidipped my roof and people were questioning it at a meet so i peeled it off right then and there and the paint looks as good as ever. Plastidip deffinatly gets my vote

[Lt1_8U]

I may plasti dip the nova till I paint it....... Just to protect my primer. Does a special gun need to be purchased or can you use a regular gravity feed gun?

[ar0ck]

The original videos on YouTube from Dipyoucar.com were using a Black & Decker sprayer!

[Lt1_8U]

I've seen people using that 10.00 gun from harbor freight. Some say to thin it more when using a gravity fed gun.

[WildBillyT]

I may plasti dip the nova till I paint it....... Just to protect my primer. Does a special gun need to be purchased or can you use a regular gravity feed gun?

Do it and post up :d

[Lt1_8U]

By the time it warms up I may just paint it though😬

[ar0ck]

Gave it a photoshop render, I'm sticking with the gold/bronze. Haters gonna hate.

[donnj]

Alex, the look is growing on me, some more inspiration for ya

[V]

IMO, if you leave the sail/roof panel black, leave the side mirrors black too.
Also I'd leave the marker lights untinted but maybe just spray them with matte clear to eliminate the gloss look.

[unstable bob gable]

Gave it a photoshop render, I'm sticking with the gold/bronze. Haters gonna hate.

I think that looks pretty ballsy. 8-)

[Tru2Chevy]

Gave it a photoshop render, I'm sticking with the gold/bronze. Haters gonna hate.

Looks good Alex! I agree with leaving the mirrors black though, think that will look better. Also, what's going on with the hood in that chop? Are those some sort of stripes or tear effect on top of the scoops?

- Justin

[ar0ck]

Looks good Alex! I agree with leaving the mirrors black though, think that will look better. Also, what's going on with the hood in that chop? Are those some sort of stripes or tear effect on top of the scoops?

- Justin

I had to photoshop the Ram Air hood on, the original photo it came from had reflections of trees but it was the best angle/size to work with! :lol: Now I'm just waiting for Jim to swap the motors and to come home and paint this thing!