1973 Camaro LT

[WSex]

I recently traded my terminator for this 73 camaro a few weeks back. So happy about the trade. Camaro is such a great cruiser, neck breaker, and chick magnet. Has built 327 mated to a th350
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I never felt so happy about about a car.
Cruising around a dealer plate doing everything right with hagerty. Going back and forth .

And the moment you love something you have so much. It gets ruined.
A lady driving her Nissan big metal bumpered car while inserting an address into her GPS because godforbid we stop and lose 2 minutes of our time
Heart broken. Was in shock. My skin changed color and the feeling to vomit.
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This one hurt. This one punched me right in the stomach

[maroman88]

wow that was beautiful. let us know how hagerty handles this

[JW]

Yea that went from an awesome story to a very sad one! That was a nice car, I am also curious to hear how the insurance handles it.

JW :D

[WSex]

I was waiting on hagertys response . They only accepted me hours after the accident. So technically I wasn't cover. The dealer plate was liability only and now we will see how the ladies all state handles everything. I will get my car fixed and paid for depreciation value. I will get it done right. There was no paint under this one. All original panels and sandblasted to get resprayed. I'll get it all back.

[Jersey Mike]

Wow, car was parked right in front of your house!?

Looks like she pushed it a few feet... how many feet did it move?

[WSex]

Wow, car was parked right in front of your house!?

Looks like she pushed it a few feet... how many feet did it move?

8 feet and mine pushed my neighbor s 3 feet

[Jersey Mike]

Whoa! She was moving!

[1320B4U]

Makes me sad and angry. Sorry man. I hope they fix it. What did you have it insured for?

[sweetbmxrider]

That really went from an awesome story to terrible, sorry man. She was definitely doing over 25mph and it doesn't even look like she reacted until well after the initial collision. Looks like she carried the car from the skid mark. Make sure you go to a body shop YOU WANT. Do no let her insurance bully you around. Go to the best shop you can. Beautiful car, I hope it is restored completely to its former glory. I'm surprised she was able to input an address while in motion, no factory installed gps allows that. Only unlocked ones and portables/phones. What a bitch.

[WSex]

Thanks guys. Was a portable GPS.
Very upsetting

According to hagerty condition report for that car they suggested 24k
(I think it's a bit high) but I insured for 30k. Mind you again my insurance was only activated after the accident. So It's in her insurances hands. And lawyer if needed

[Featherburner]

Her insurance will total it and pay the average value for a 73 Camaro. I can't believe you had it parked on the street!

[WSex]

Her insurance will total it and pay the average value for a 73 Camaro. I can't believe you had it parked on the street!

Nah. I've been through this. I either want my car fixed and an extra for depreciation. Or the average of another 73 camaro in the same condition.

[Featherburner]

OK, you know everything. Good luck getting your car fixed.

[WSex]

OK, you know everything. Good luck getting your car fixed.

And here come negative nancies
Thank you

[chrisfrom nj]

that was a beautiful camaro it sucks that that person totaled it

[Featherburner]

And here come negative nancies
Thank you
Not negative...just realistic. I honestly hope you get it fixed but without proper insurance, i just don't see it happening without a bunch of money out of your pocket.

[WSex]

Not negative...just realistic. I honestly hope you get it fixed but without proper insurance, i just don't see it happening without a bunch of money out of your pocket.

Idk we'll see. I also have to look into my home insurance. See what's up.

[BonzoHansen]

This sucks.

Homeowners will not pay anything, even if it had been on your property. I suspect hagerty will deny the claim but you never know.

[WildBillyT]

This one hurt. This one punched me right in the stomach

This is brutal and painful to see. I saw this on my phone first and thought that you were just messing with us. Really sorry to hear about this.

Not negative...just realistic. I honestly hope you get it fixed but without proper insurance, i just don't see it happening without a bunch of money out of your pocket.

One of the reasons that classic insurance exists is because regular companies will pay out like it's a regular car. That shot to the rear is probably the worst place for a 2nd gen to get hit. They will probably total this out. You can forget about NOS sheetmetal.

This sucks.

Homeowners will not pay anything, even if it had been on your property. I suspect hagerty will deny the claim but you never know.

Hopefully Hagerty will be cool about this, especially if the application to them was submitted well before the time of the accident.

[Ray]

Wow man what a beautiful car. It's a damn shame when things like this happen. Best of luck getting it fixed/replaced.

[ThoR294]

Correct, homeowners won't do anything. When my neighbors tree fell on my car they wouldn't do anything.

I would want to kill that lady. :bang: She better pay up man. Good luck! Such a sad story. If that happened to even my silly ws6 I'd be puking and raging too

[JL8Jeff]

Wow, really nice looking car and that looks like serious damage. Hopefully, you can recoup what you had in it and find something close to that.

[NJSPEEDER]

Any update on the recovery or repair?

-Tim

[WSex]

Any update on the recovery or repair?

-Tim

had appraiser come yesterday. nice guy.
asked me to email him the appraisal for the car at condition 1.
which is 28,xxx

now its a waiting game for the offer.

[Mike]

You are lucky they are going to offer anything. An uninsured car on the street is usually automatically found at fault

[WSex]

You are lucky they are going to offer anything. An uninsured car on the street is usually automatically found at fault

It had liability under the temp plate.

[NJSPEEDER]

had appraiser come yesterday. nice guy.
asked me to email him the appraisal for the car at condition 1.
which is 28,xxx

now its a waiting game for the offer.

If they sent out an appraiser then they most likely have something in the works.

Did they say if the plan was to cut you a check and total the car out or repair? Or is that still a pending question as well?

-Tim

[NJSPEEDER]

You are lucky they are going to offer anything. An uninsured car on the street is usually automatically found at fault

Not really. When one party is clearly at fault the insurance companies will try to avoid getting sued for max payout. Remember, liability as far as traffic offenses is vastly different than when in court for a lawsuit. Since the driver that hit the Camaro was clearly at fault when hitting a parked car and fully insured, the insurance company is on the hook for any lawsuit finding that is within the payout threshold.

They simply do the math and make the decision, it is worth cutting a check for 30k-ish for the car or risking paying out the probably 50-100k that is common on full coverage policies?

-Tim

[sweetbmxrider]

Not really. When one party is clearly at fault the insurance companies will try to avoid getting sued for max payout. Remember, liability as far as traffic offenses is vastly different than when in court for a lawsuit. Since the driver that hit the Camaro was clearly at fault when hitting a parked car and fully insured, the insurance company is on the hook for any lawsuit finding that is within the payout threshold.

They simply do the math and make the decision, it is worth cutting a check for 30k-ish for the car or risking paying out the probably 50-100k that is common on full coverage policies?

-Tim

If the car should have not been on the road, the accident would have never happened. An uninsured vehicle should not be on the road. Luckily, it appears he did have coverage via the dealer plate's liability insurance. But yes, it does come down to the bottom line.

[Mike]

If the car should have not been on the road, the accident would have never happened. An uninsured vehicle should not be on the road. Luckily, it appears he did have coverage via the dealer plate's liability insurance. But yes, it does come down to the bottom line.

Right. My comment is moot because of the dealer plate but an uninsured car shouldn't be there. So any accident involving one can be argued that it wouldn't have happened had the car not been there

You can actually get away with rear ending someone in this situation. :lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

:lol: Probably the only time you could rear end someone and not be at fault.

[WildBillyT]

Right. My comment is moot because of the dealer plate but an uninsured car shouldn't be there. So any accident involving one can be argued that it wouldn't have happened had the car not been there

You can actually get away with rear ending someone in this situation. :lol:

Furthermore it's probably not stored in accordance with Hagerty's rules and it's not a Class 1 car according to the paperwork.

Wsex, go buy some lottery tickets!

[BonzoHansen]

Furthermore it's probably not stored in accordance with Hagerty's rules and it's not a Class 1 car according to the paperwork.

Wsex, go buy some lottery tickets!

i am assuming the other driver's insurance is paying since she is at fault.

[WildBillyT]

i am assuming the other driver's insurance is paying since she is at fault.

Then wouldn't they go by actual cash value?

[NJSPEEDER]

Its great to say nothing would have happened had the car not been there but I know someone who got a nice check from someone's insurance company when they tried to use that argument in court. Don't confuse traffic law with a lawsuit.

The contention to the negative is invalid on it's face anyway, the Camaro had a dealer plate on it. Dealer plates are registration and insurance for short term transit. So even if the classic car policy that had been applied for wasn't in place yet there was a policy on the car making it legal to park on the street.

-Tim

[BonzoHansen]

unregistered/uninsured could jeopardize a claim, but that is not the case here it seems. so moot point. but yes that could in theory cause problems.

yes, the drivers ins company is not obliged to any agreed value. if hagerty pays anything up to their agreed limit they will seek reimbursement from the other company.

[Mike]

Also seeing how the car wasn't in the inventory of a used car dealer (unless this thread about you owning it is nonsense) it could put that dealer in a sticky situation.

[ThoR294]

It had liability under the temp plate.

I was going to say, doesn't the temp plate put it under some sort of insurance anyway? (dealer i assume)

[WSex]

If they sent out an appraiser then they most likely have something in the works.

Did they say if the plan was to cut you a check and total the car out or repair? Or is that still a pending question as well?

-Tim

Pending.



I read everyone's response.
I don't mind going to court....
I do want max payout.

The plate was a temp plate. It's all legit.

[elle]

Wow, just happened to see this. Love that car!

[V]

You had a terminator ?





lol

[NJ Torque]

You had a terminator ?





lol



Thats what crossed my mind when I seen it too.....

[WSex]

You had a terminator ?





lol



Yes. and you can laugh but this camaro was very very well kept. Long story short
The first allstate offer is very low. Mind you I'm in the green I won't lose any money I have invested. But I want more. I explained it all to hagerty and believe it or not they have an appraiser to go check the car on Monday.

So at that point hagerty will determine what should be done.
The damages are in upwards of 12k$ that's not even with every single nos part. Just the major things. And that's not including if frame is twisted etc.

About the cobra
I have a strong connect with a finiance company. Car was a repo took a Month to get title transfered to my name. But 8500 for a 28k mile termi? Hellooo

And off subject
I have info on repo of
A 69 camaro ss 18k original miles for very very cheap
53 vette in red
67 vert maro in yellow
And 70 judge orange

Pm if interested

[Featherburner]

Yes. and you can laugh but this camaro was very very well kept. Long story short
The first allstate offer is very low. Mind you I'm in the green I won't lose any money I have invested. But I want more. I explained it all to hagerty and believe it or not they have an appraiser to go check the car on Monday.

So at that point hagerty will determine what should be done.
The damages are in upwards of 12k$ that's not even with every single nos part. Just the major things. And that's not including if frame is twisted etc.

About the cobra
I have a strong connect with a finiance company. Car was a repo took a Month to get title transfered to my name. But 8500 for a 28k mile termi? Hellooo

And off subject
I have info on repo of
A 69 camaro ss 18k original miles for very very cheap
53 vette in red
67 vert maro in yellow
And 70 judge orange

Pm if interestedMust be the only one like it. No one in their right mind would paint a 53 Corvette red.

[WSex]

Must be the only one like it. No one in their right mind would paint a 53 Corvette red.

Lol no bullsiht

[Tru2Chevy]

So, how did things go with the Hagerty appraiser?

- Justin

[WSex]

So, how did things go with the Hagerty appraiser?

- Justin

Car was appraised at body shop. I was at work. Should be getting a call tomorrow

[donnj]

extremely eager to hear what response was, updates?

[WSex]

extremely eager to hear what response was, updates?

Appraiser is working numbers still
Said it's going to be very close to totaled.


Anyways

69 ss
For sale
Bank is looking for 15-20

I'm just in a bad situation right now or else I'd buy.

Text me for pics
9734459231


20% finders fee:p

[WSex]

hagerty did a total loss
kept the car for 3100
and recieved 26900

keeping the car as is for the moment
getting a quote with aftermarket panels.
if not itll sit like that in a garage until the time is right.


case closed boys.
thank you and goodnight

[elle]

I would think that is a great outcome for you. Plenty of nice cars to buy with that kind of cash. Good luck!

[ThoR294]

Nice man good to see you got a decent amount

[V]

buy another terminator

[WSex]

buy another terminator

Definetely not.

[V]

k, buy me one? lol. That's the one mustang I actually like.

But I'm glad things worked out for you, even though the car not getting hit at all would have been better.

[Jersey Mike]

Go buy the 69 SS and pocket the rest

[IROCZman15]

wow, i've been anxious to see the result of the insurance process. looks like you made out and did not get burnt. i hate looking at the photos on page 1, so sad.

[WSex]

Anyone interested in buying the car as is?

[WSex]

So decided I'm going to fix the car.
Question is who sells the best body panels

Year one?
Or no

Looking for people that have bougtmht body panels before

Thank you.

[WildBillyT]

So decided I'm going to fix the car.
Question is who sells the best body panels

Year one?
Or no

Looking for people that have bougtmht body panels before

Thank you.

Dynacorn aka DII

All the big parts houses just re-sell other people's stuff. I think most of it is DII, Golden Legion, or Goodmark.

Year One is a grossly overpriced reseller of other people's stuff from my experience.

I'd give Rick's Camaros (Eckler's) a call and ask them what they have that's best. I have not dealt with them since Eckler's bought them out but in previous years you could call up and ask who makes the parts they sell and what the best quality option was. An extra $200 to save 2 days of panel beating is well worth it IMO.

[NJSPEEDER]

The who makes the best thing is a huge debate. Year One has nice stuff but also Year One prices. Check around, there are only a few companies that actually make quality replacement panels and they sell through a lot of different outlets, often retagged into the seller's or some other local brand name. AMD is an example of this, they sell direct, through Summit and Jegs under their own brand, and some people have stated they ordered parts from 'resto' companies and inside the box was an AMD tagged piece.

Also keep in mind that any panel will require some amount of massaging because of variations in the car, especially one that has been hit, and variation in the production of the part. So anyone claiming a perfect fit and no finish work needed should be ignored.

Good luck with it and keep us up to date on your progress. Are you going to do the work on your own or through a shop?

-Tim

[BonzoHansen]

Vendors do not make sheet metal, so it’s not about year one or classic industries, etc. Hell you can get quality sheet metal from rock auto and summit.

And some companies that make sheet metal might make a good part X but bad Y, so you cannot blanket say 'buy all sheet metal from company Z" because that may be wrong.

My suggestion is start prowling NastyZ28.com for info on 2nd gen aftermarket sheet metal. And make a list of what you need.

Maybe get used GM parts where you can? Or search for key NOS parts. Depends on who is doing the work, and how right you want it I suppose.


oh, you might be better off finding a decent donor car and using parts off your to build one good car. that shell is probably tweaked pretty good.

[WildBillyT]

Vendors do not make sheet metal, so it’s not about year one or classic industries, etc. Hell you can get quality sheet metal from rock auto and summit.

And some companies that make sheet metal might make a good part X but bad Y, so you cannot blanket say 'buy all sheet metal from company Z" because that may be wrong.

My suggestion is start prowling NastyZ28.com for info on 2nd gen aftermarket sheet metal. And make a list of what you need.

Maybe get used GM parts where you can? Or search for key NOS parts. Depends on who is doing the work, and how right you want it I suppose.


oh, you might be better off finding a decent donor car and using parts off your to build one good car. that shell is probably tweaked pretty good.

This is good advice. :nod:

[WSex]

I'm not doing the work myself.
I just want it all after martket.
And my body shop can massage the panels all they want.

Car will be for sale afterwards

[BonzoHansen]

talk to the body shop, sometime the labor involved with aftermarket metal cost more than OE sheet metal. I guarantee they'd rather have OE fenders, even solid used ones

you're rebuilding it to flip? huh.

[WSex]

talk to the body shop, sometime the labor involved with aftermarket metal cost more than OE sheet metal. I guarantee they'd rather have OE fenders, even solid used ones

you're rebuilding it to flip? huh.

Yes I'm going to go over a few more stuff before ordering.
Flipping my way up into a used tesla s roadster

[donnj]

any updates? maybe throw a turbo under the hood while your fixin her up..

[redsoxsstink]

any updates? maybe throw a turbo under the hood while your fixin her up..

i think hes got his hands full with one turbo build :bertstare:

[elle]

Not Goodmark! I've bought their stuff for 2 different cars and the body guy wanted to kill me after fitting the parts. Twisted, short, long, bowed, you name it the panels were anything but straight and fitment was terrible.

[WSex]

Red Sox - for real

Elle- thanks for the input. Still haven't ordered panels.

[redsoxsstink]

Not Goodmark! I've bought their stuff for 2 different cars and the body guy wanted to kill me after fitting the parts. Twisted, short, long, bowed, you name it the panels were anything but straight and fitment was terrible.

really? i dont get my hands on personally with goodmark products, but i work with shops that do use them and havent heard terrible things about them. just standard stuff for aftermarket panels.

[elle]

really? i dont get my hands on personally with goodmark products, but i work with shops that do use them and havent heard terrible things about them. just standard stuff for aftermarket panels.

I got fenders and a hood for a 67 Camaro. Fenders were too long in lower rear area and when bolted up they actually bowed out. Body guy had to trim and shorten. Hood fit like a shoe box top that was stepped on.

Hood for a 63 Nova. It looked great out of the box. I went to body shop and couldn't believe how much work it needed.

[WSex]

Yupp. That's the stuff I don't want to deal with

That's why it's upforsale.
Caigslist for now

[BonzoHansen]

Yupp. That's the stuff I don't want to deal with

That's why it's upforsale.
Caigslist for now

Which is why I said hunt for oe parts!

You might be better off selling or parting

[WSex]

Which is why I said hunt for oe parts!

You might be better off selling or parting

I'd hate to part it. I rather make a little less and know it'll live again.

[BonzoHansen]

Does it have a salvage title now?

I suspect it's worth much more in parts. It isn't a first gen yenko car.

[WSex]

Does it have a salvage title now?

I suspect it's worth much more in parts. It isn't a first gen yenko car.

Cars 8 years or older don't get salvage titles in the state of New jersey

[BonzoHansen]

nice, did not know that

[V]

trade for a 2001 Kia Rio? lol

[NJ Torque]

trade for a 2001 Kia Rio? lol





:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Featherburner]

Cars 8 years or older don't get salvage titles in the state of New jerseyNot exactly true.

nice, did not know that

To convert a salvage title to a standard title on a vehicle eight years or older that does not need an inspection, you must have the following:
•Salvage Title
•$60 title fee
•Before and after photos of the vehicle – all sides
•Receipts for parts with full vehicle description, year, make and VIN
•Work order
•Damage report from insurance company
You must submit all of the required documents to:
NJVMC Special Title Unit
PO Box 017
Trenton, NJ 08666-0017
(609) 292-6500 ext. 5063

Transactions will not be done while customer waits. Processing time for these transactions will take a minimum of three weeks.

Possible reasons your title may be rejected: •Incomplete assignment
•Improper fees, penalties
•Alterations, erasures, etc.
•Improper signatures – power of attorney
•Incorrect or missing supporting documents (police reports, statements, estimates, etc.)
•NOTE: We do not issue titles to out-of-state residents

[Mike]

Yeah that is not true

[WSex]

It just sold for 9k.

Lock it up
It's on its way to devlin way, Howell

[Jersey Mike]

It's a shame you didn't get to enjoy the car more, but from a monetary standpoint things worked out well for you.
I hope you get another 2nd or 1st Gen once the dust settles.