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Little G
02-13-2005, 04:18 PM
Yup, another might 3800. The plans are for a strictly N/A build (crazy cam and built heads and intake are definitely in order). I probably won't start working on it until Fall at the earliest. Stay tuned.

g
foff667
02-13-2005, 04:21 PM
cool :)
NJSPEEDER
02-13-2005, 04:22 PM
trying to make the V6 power adder crowd even more crazy by actually doing engine work?
considering you are already faster than most head and cam and power adder cars with just externals, i can't wait to see where this goes :)

later
tim
Mike
02-13-2005, 04:37 PM
are there any parts out there to make it a stroker?....a 4.0 or whatever it would be would be cool as hell.
Little G
02-13-2005, 04:50 PM
They do have a 4.1 stroker kit, however it is a reground stock crank and I have been lead to believe that it would be inadvisable to use it. Also it is rather costly ($1500) which includes rods and pistons.
skorpion317
02-13-2005, 05:36 PM
the stroker kit from ZZperformance is fine, but it isn't strong enough to stand up to forced induction or nitrous. For an N/A motor, though, it would be perfect.
GP99GT
02-13-2005, 05:42 PM
yeah, i dont think the stroker kit is worth the money, i'd rather go turbo :)
1RawTA
02-13-2005, 09:09 PM
They do have a 4.1 stroker kit, however it is a reground stock crank and I have been lead to believe that it would be inadvisable to use it. Â*Also it is rather costly ($1500) which includes rods and pistons.

i belive they are coming out with a forged version soon, id just wait for that
Savage_Messiah
02-14-2005, 12:01 AM
Goddamnit I always have the ideas and not the money... :P nice man
JL8Jeff
02-14-2005, 07:36 AM
What stroker crank are the turbo Buick guys running? They make tons of power so I'd think the stuff would be reliable.
Tru2Chevy
02-14-2005, 09:21 AM
What stroker crank are the turbo Buick guys running? Â*They make tons of power so I'd think the stuff would be reliable.

I don't think any of the series I and series II parts swap.

Can't wait for this buildup Craig....next season will be even more fun than this one :twisted:

- Justin
j0n
02-14-2005, 10:57 AM
i cant wait to see your monster runnin
foff667
02-14-2005, 11:49 AM
i cant wait to see your monster runnin

maybe, if you can get outta church on time and dont get another transfer :roll:
NJSPEEDER
02-14-2005, 03:24 PM
craig and i have been talking about how it would be cool to build a motor for a while. i hope it is something he can get to at the end of the season. with how quickly he is making progress already i can't even imagine where he will end up with a built motor, 10's? maybe even 9's?

later
tim
JerzLT1
02-14-2005, 03:35 PM
i cant wait to see your monster runnin

maybe, if you can get outta church on time and dont get another transfer :roll:

:rofl:
camaro2you
02-14-2005, 03:52 PM
kool
j0n
02-14-2005, 04:10 PM
i cant wait to see your monster runnin

maybe, if you can get outta church on time and dont get another transfer :roll:

:rofl:

u still didnt beat me...and my time's still quicker...keep your mouth shut till we stage
NJSPEEDER
02-14-2005, 04:31 PM
i cant wait to see your monster runnin

maybe, if you can get outta church on time and dont get another transfer :roll:

:rofl:

u still didnt beat me...and my time's still quicker...keep your mouth shut till we stage

hmmm, final showdown at etown on teh 26th maybe kids? that would be a good opporutnity for jon to get losing to bill and craig heads up out of teh way before teh weather gets too hot :P

later
tim
GrandmasterCow
02-14-2005, 04:32 PM
craig and i have been talking about how it would be cool to build a motor for a while. i hope it is something he can get to at the end of the season. with how quickly he is making progress already i can't even imagine where he will end up with a built motor, 10's? maybe even 9's?

later
tim

i dont know, the fastest to date ive heard of for the 3.8 fbody was low 11s, and that was with dumping a ****load of money into the motor, so i dont know if he can reach lower than that or else hed break a record.
j0n
02-14-2005, 04:57 PM
i think that was the idea from the start :shock:
Tru2Chevy
02-14-2005, 04:59 PM
craig and i have been talking about how it would be cool to build a motor for a while. i hope it is something he can get to at the end of the season. with how quickly he is making progress already i can't even imagine where he will end up with a built motor, 10's? maybe even 9's?

i dont know, the fastest to date ive heard of for the 3.8 fbody was low 11s, and that was with dumping a ****load of money into the motor, so i dont know if he can reach lower than that or else hed break a record.

Are you talking about Shirl? She's got nitrous and a blower on a car that weighs 3800 lbs and has next to nothing for suspension prep. It's a show car.

- Justin
96ImpSS
02-14-2005, 05:07 PM
Yup, another might 3800. Â*The plans are for a strictly N/A build (crazy cam and built heads and intake are definitely in order). Â*I probably won't start working on it until Fall at the earliest. Â*Stay tuned.

g

Craig, i don't doubt that you are gonna go all out. I cant wait to see ur car in the 12's,11's, 10's whatever.
j0n
02-14-2005, 05:09 PM
i think 12.99 with the engine hes got in the car now is not out of the question...now add on a couple hundred hp :shock:
Tru2Chevy
02-14-2005, 05:17 PM
i think 12.99 with the engine hes got in the car now is not out of the question...now add on a couple hundred hp :shock:

I wouldn't add a couple hundred hp....remember, this is going to be an all out N/A motor. It will be interesting to see how it sounds once the cam and heads are done....nice lopey v6 idle :)

- Justin
NJSPEEDER
02-14-2005, 05:23 PM
a couple hundred is pushing it, but an additional 100-125 woudl be easy with a matched head and cam motor. that woudl prolly be enough to push teh car to mid 12's as it sits right now, much less the way the rest of teh combo will be by the time the motor is prepared. :)

later
tim
12secondv6
02-14-2005, 08:20 PM
This is the ZZP 4.1L stroker car: 12.60@104.90 on a 1.71 60' all natural in her ZZP Grand Prix GT

As for 3800 series 2 f body.....
No HOLDS BARRED:
2002 Firebird with a v6 engine running 11.97@112mph N/A Harry Doolittle

More info here:
http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=001781

When I got into HPP for the cover shot and 3 page article he sent a letter disputing their claim of me being the fastest 3.8L v6 f body at the time... he was mid 12's at the time... I was quicker....

As for Shirl's car... I have seen a 12.6 or 12.7 out of that car..... true boost/ nitrous amount is not known yet.....I've yet to figure out how you can go from 12.6 to 11.8 with no mods... All I ever ask for is proof.....

I've got video/ picture of my 12.1 run
12secondv6
02-14-2005, 08:20 PM
Oh, and craig... I can't wait till you get seriously involved in this!!!

It will be kick @ss!!!!
NJSPEEDER
02-14-2005, 08:23 PM
is teh 11.97 still his known best? hell, if you get yer car over here we could knock a whole second off that at ASS :)
feel like getting kicked out of the track for not having proper safety equipment for your et? :D

later
tim
Savage_Messiah
02-14-2005, 09:10 PM
is teh 11.97 still his known best? hell, if you get yer car over here we could knock a whole second off that at ASS :)
feel like getting kicked out of the track for not having proper safety equipment for your et? :D

later
tim

again :wink:
12secondv6
02-14-2005, 09:32 PM
Damn Island!
Tru2Chevy
02-15-2005, 09:22 AM
As for Shirl's car... I have seen a 12.6 or 12.7 out of that car..... true boost/ nitrous amount is not known yet.....I've yet to figure out how you can go from 12.6 to 11.8 with no mods... Â*All I ever ask for is proof.....

I've got video/ picture of my 12.1 run

I'm anxious too see if she really brings her car to A.S.S. Isn't she claiming 8 psi and a 150 shot now?

- Justin