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Originally Posted by procamaroz28 (Post 364201)

dude im a salesman for nissan
what your saying is 100% tru to be honest the 3.5 6 speed altima is much faster than the z but they dont got sht on my lt1

you drive a LS1

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro (Post 363945)

again, this is an aging stereotype. it simply doesn't exist anymore. anyone who works for a car manufacturer that is in charge of more than sweeping the floor has already seen what a sloppy work ethic will do to their jobs. they are a lot more intent on keepig their jobs than ever before, and the only way to get that done is to make sure there are no mistakes.

reputation has a lot to do with what car people buy, this is true. if it was so easy to win people back, GM, Ford and Chrysler would have already done it. the only way to get people back to american cars is to educate them. ask 10 people where their money goes after the purchase and 9 of them don't know or don't care. if they know that one car equals ten jobs for americans, their point of view adjusts. that is, if they care about anyone other than themselves. that also has a lot to do with what kind of car people buy - how ego-centric are they, exactly? if they found out that their buying decision affected people's dinner tables, would it make a difference?

part of the problem is the government actually. our government follows a foreign policy that gives the advantage to other countries because apparently our economy is infallible and it is our duty to help others. countries like japan protect only their economy and will not allow import, but do large amounts of export. we do the opposite. this is good for other countries, but bad for us. we suck

i still havent sold my camaro and btw no other car in that price range got sht on the ls1

well jake the reson for that is some people think the more others have invested their market in us, the more they need to back us up b/c we are the reason for ther well being. but doesnt really turn out that way tho

nissan, hassan, rockman, pokemon, its all ok for someone else
chevy's and fords are my choices

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Originally Posted by cam70nfs (Post 364502)

chevy's and fords are my choices

YES!!!11!one

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro (Post 363623)

QFT - all except the part about liking their product. it's built into my psyche that i positively, absolutely will never like anything foreign. well, all except the elite car makers - like ferrari, lamborghini, bugati, etc. of course, i will never be in a position to buy anything like that, but i certainly will not, ever, buy a japanese car. and i influence all of those around me that i can against buying foreign. why not support your own economy?

to back you up...me being a mechanic, I haven't seen a foreign car at my job with more than 200,000 miles. Where as an American car, I've seen at least 5-10 in the last 2-3 months. Especially those 3100 series made by GM. Those f'n things seems to last forever.

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Originally Posted by SupermanX24 (Post 364785)

errr.... you sure you mean 3100, not 3800? lol

I did mean 3100, but those 3800's last long too.

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Originally Posted by SupermanX24 (Post 364785)

maybe you havent seen the high mileage imports because they dont need work at your shop?

personally id like to pick up an older celica with the 2.2...they never die, ive seen tons over 200k

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah (Post 364852)

errr.... you sure you mean 3100, not 3800? lol

of course he did.....60* v6 FTW!

- Justin

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Originally Posted by GP99GT (Post 365018)

maybe you havent seen the high mileage imports because they dont need work at your shop?

personally id like to pick up an older celica with the 2.2...they never die, ive seen tons over 200k

lol my buddies died right after it rolled 200k. not saying they are bad cars, just noting the irony

my friends 3300 in his cutlass lasted till 194k. the motor was still good but the trans lost 2nd lol

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Originally Posted by maroman88 (Post 365091)

my friends 3300 in his cutlass lasted till 194k. the motor was still good but the trans lost 2nd lol

my 3800 did the exact same thing!!! lol. Except the trans lost 4th and reverse too :D

I had a 2003 Altima.....greatest car I ever owned....never had a single problem with it.....my mustang, camaro and gtp and more problems in the first weeks that I owned them then in the 4 years I had my altima.

eh my friend has a 93 civic with 250k and another friend has a 95 passat with over 200k that he daily commutes to philly with and races at the track.........i had a 93 silverado with 150k that was dieing.

its the individual car, and the individual owner that will determine the reliability of a car, not the nameplate on the bumpers.

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 365129)

its the individual car, and the individual owner that will determine the reliability of a car, not the nameplate on the bumpers.

QFT!

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 365129)

for the most part, yes. but not entirely. some cars have known trouble spots. VWs and all german cars for that matter have electrical problems, fords have transmission problems, hondas have weak axles and auto trannys, etc.... some cars, no matter how well you treat them, there are some problems you can't avoid.

but mike you're right, the biggest factor is the driver. i would be surprised if this saturn i'm driving cuts 100k with my driving habits.

my dads boneville ssei with a s/c 3800 went to 190 then he sold it an then that person totaled it but the motor was sitll going