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MonmouthCtyAntz 01-06-2009 04:31 PM

Header question...
 
I just got back from the mechanic and he basically told me that I might as well get a new set of headers because there welded to the collector and it would be a huge pain to fix the leak.

LTb1ow 01-06-2009 04:37 PM

And your question is....?

MonmouthCtyAntz 01-06-2009 04:38 PM

Whats invloved or how much would it run to fix this? or should i start saving for the pacesetter Lts :lol:

BonzoHansen 01-06-2009 04:41 PM

Is the collector broken? you can probably repair it.

LTb1ow 01-06-2009 04:41 PM

Um well you may have problems with that, I would assume that the current setup is welded because its an LS1 in an LT1 car...

LS1 headers will prob not fit in the car without some custom Y pipe being made.
I could be 100% wrong on that, but thats what I would assume.

L8APEX 01-06-2009 04:49 PM

The k-member placement and floor pans of all 4th gens are the same. As long as it is the correct y-pipe for the LS1 headers, there should not be any reason to weld the sections together.

MonmouthCtyAntz 01-06-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L8APEX (Post 530427)
The k-member placement and floor pans of all 4th gens are the same. As long as it is the correct y-pipe for the LS1 headers, there should not be any reason to weld the sections together.

Then i would assume it not....

LTb1ow 01-06-2009 05:06 PM

Not sure how the emissions are with it, is the car registered as a repower? I would assume the LS1 would easily pass a sniff test with LTs and a catted Y. But you will fail visual.

MonmouthCtyAntz 01-06-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 530435)
Not sure how the emissions are with it, is the car registered as a repower? I would assume the LS1 would easily pass a sniff test with LTs and a catted Y. But you will fail visual.

Huh? lol car already has a fresh inspection, I talked w/ the js guys think ima save up for some LT's, these mids are in some pretty bad shape anyway. Not my daily driver and as long as shes in good shape by spring im good.

LTb1ow 01-06-2009 05:38 PM

Well technically an LS1 only needs to pass the computer part versus an OBDI LT1 which is required to pass a sniff test.

BonzoHansen 01-06-2009 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 530444)
Well technically an LS1 only needs to pass the computer part versus an OBDI LT1 which is required to pass a sniff test.

Not on a retrofit.

LTb1ow 01-06-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 530445)
Not on a retrofit.

Well thats what I was trying to get at....

MonmouthCtyAntz 01-06-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 530445)
Not on a retrofit.

No tester honestly knows the engine differance in any 4th gen camaro, nor do i think they really care.

BonzoHansen 01-06-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz (Post 530447)
No tester honestly knows the engine differance in any 4th gen camaro, nor do i think they really care.

Right. So they would test the car like it was just an OBD1 car.

JL8Jeff 01-06-2009 06:14 PM

How much do you plan on driving the car? I would recommend stainless longtubes over coated if it will be driven a lot and in wet weather from time to time. But if it's just gonna be in nice weather then coated should hold up ok. I have the old XS Stainless headers on my car and I bought them used and they still look pretty decent. They are now call LPS I think. Nice 321 stainless headers. Does it currently have the EGR and AIR hooked up to the headers? If so and you plan to retain it then you need to know which year style LS1 AIR hook ups. I think the 98-99 were side to side hookup while the 00-02 were inline(or front to back) style flange.

deadtrend1 01-06-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz (Post 530421)
Whats invloved or how much would it run to fix this? or should i start saving for the pacesetter Lts :lol:

Don't buy pacesetters ....

LTb1ow 01-06-2009 07:12 PM

Porque no?

deadtrend1 01-06-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 530471)
Porque no?

I'm guessing you are saying why not .....

They are junk. Their armor coating sucks. I barely drive my LT1 and within a year they are rusted up to ****.

Go with stainless if you go longtubes. I would definetly hit up those LPP headrs on tech right now if i had spare coin.

LTb1ow 01-06-2009 08:01 PM

Mine seem to be holding up just fine. Guess I will have to wait and see.

L8APEX 01-06-2009 08:33 PM

Pacesetter headers can be a bit hit or miss. I have seen them fit fine, seen them hit the floor pan, and angle slightly down. More often than not, they are ok, but if you get bad ones it is a problem waiting to happen.

Stainless is a better idea than coating as others have stated. Think of coatings as paint, no matter how much prep you do or how good the paint you use is, eventually it comes off. Add the complication of heat cycling since it is exhaust and you can see why it doesn't last.

sweetbmxrider 01-06-2009 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz (Post 530447)
No tester honestly knows the engine differance in any 4th gen camaro, nor do i think they really care.

orly

go stainless. go on ls1tech. they run specials and **** all of the time.

LTb1ow 01-06-2009 09:54 PM

You mean the stock manifolds aren't shiny metal tubes?

noooooo

NJSPEEDER 01-06-2009 10:46 PM

Go with American Racing Headers or Kooks. All stainless construction, merge collector headers, and lifetime warranties.

MonmouthCtyAntz 01-07-2009 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 530454)
Right. So they would test the car like it was just an OBD1 car.

Yes sir

MonmouthCtyAntz 01-07-2009 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JL8Jeff (Post 530458)
How much do you plan on driving the car? I would recommend stainless longtubes over coated if it will be driven a lot and in wet weather from time to time. But if it's just gonna be in nice weather then coated should hold up ok. I have the old XS Stainless headers on my car and I bought them used and they still look pretty decent. They are now call LPS I think. Nice 321 stainless headers. Does it currently have the EGR and AIR hooked up to the headers? If so and you plan to retain it then you need to know which year style LS1 AIR hook ups. I think the 98-99 were side to side hookup while the 00-02 were inline(or front to back) style flange.

I believe the headers on now have all the hookups. Yea man its only going to be a nice weather/weekend car. Most of the time it will be sitting covered. Yea I was looking at your post on tech about those ebay headers, you said on one of the posts that you got a tsp y to work? If so ill order them up..


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