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WildBillyT 02-22-2011 10:52 AM

2013 Cruze diesel
 
Does anybody know if the diesel Cruze will actually happen in 2013, or is it still in infancy? If so, will it be offered with a manual trans? Al, you out there? :mrgreen:

V 02-22-2011 10:57 AM

a link that Al posted on facebook like 3 days ago...

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...-power-100638/

BigAls87Z28 02-22-2011 11:39 AM

Yep...we broke the news. Diesel Cruze is a go for 2013.

T69SS 02-22-2011 12:00 PM

Pretty awesome

BigAls87Z28 02-22-2011 12:02 PM

Not sure of the manual option though, but its possible.

WildBillyT 02-22-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 752088)
Yep...we broke the news. Diesel Cruze is a go for 2013.

Thanks!

Turbo diesel or NA?

1QWIKBIRD 02-22-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 752104)
Thanks!

Turbo diesel or NA?

Its got to be turbo, otherwise it will be a complete and total dog. And it had better get mid 40's on the MPG otherwise its a wasted effort. If the VW Jetta can do it, GM had better figure it out as well. The Jetta is its only real competition, so aim high GM and don't price yourself out of the market GM should do just fine.

Frosty 02-22-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD (Post 752108)
Its got to be turbo, otherwise it will be a complete and total dog. And it had better get mid 40's on the MPG otherwise its a wasted effort. If the VW Jetta can do it, GM had better figure it out as well. The Jetta is its only real competition, so aim high GM and don't price yourself out of the market GM should do just fine.

^^^ This

LTb1ow 02-22-2011 01:56 PM

Ew a smoky smelly diesel.

Priuses are better.

Frosty 02-22-2011 01:57 PM

That would be Pruii noob

LTb1ow 02-22-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 752114)
That would be Pruii noob

:rofl:

qwikz28 02-22-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD (Post 752108)
Its got to be turbo, otherwise it will be a complete and total dog. And it had better get mid 40's on the MPG otherwise its a wasted effort. If the VW Jetta can do it, GM had better figure it out as well. The Jetta is its only real competition, so aim high GM and don't price yourself out of the market GM should do just fine.

Diesels are generally underrated when it comes to EPA testing. A quick trip to fueleconomy.gov confirms that most people destroy the EPA estimates. 40mpg+ combined is going to be lovely, and is way better than the 28mpg people are seeing with the regular turbo model.

Blacdout96 02-22-2011 02:59 PM

Dear 21st Century American car companies,

Glad to hear you're entering the market of diesel powered passenger cars, better late to the party then never I guess.


Sincerely,
1970's European car companies

LS1Hawk 02-22-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 752113)
Ew a smoky smelly diesel.

Priuses are better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 752114)
That would be Pruii noob

Prii...credit the Toyota faithful for that: http://www.freep.com/article/20110222/BLOG40/110222061/1014/business01?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitte r&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FreepAutoNews+%28freep.com+ |+Auto+News%29&utm_content=Twitter

Frosty 02-22-2011 03:24 PM

Eh, I was close with the spelling. :rofl: Hopefully no one drives the Prii while drunk or they'll cause millions of recalls.

BonzoHansen 02-22-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 752118)
Diesels are generally underrated when it comes to EPA testing. A quick trip to fueleconomy.gov confirms that most people destroy the EPA estimates. 40mpg+ combined is going to be lovely, and is way better than the 28mpg people are seeing with the regular turbo model.

what gets 28, the cruze?

qwikz28 02-22-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 752126)
what gets 28, the cruze?

According to the user submitted figures on fueleconomy.gov.

V 02-22-2011 03:34 PM

yeah, id say 28 is reasonable for the 1.4 turbo

r0nin89 02-22-2011 03:48 PM

Al correct me if Im wrong but when I was in GMASEP alot of the teachers were former GM corporate employees. My one teacher told us from the very beginning that small turbo diesels were, are and always will be the key to conservation but the topic for the American market had come up 100s of times on the GM chopping block and got shot down because of the big rig, black cloud spewing, rotten egg stigma that diesels have in the US.

sweetbmxrider 02-22-2011 03:58 PM

Diesels do smell, drive around in a European country for a day and you'll have the black lung.

LTb1ow 02-22-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 752136)
Diesels do smell, drive around in a European country for a day and you'll have the black lung.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZhWO6Iulkm...Coal-Miner.jpg

Tru2Chevy 02-22-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD (Post 752108)
Its got to be turbo, otherwise it will be a complete and total dog. And it had better get mid 40's on the MPG otherwise its a wasted effort. If the VW Jetta can do it, GM had better figure it out as well. The Jetta is its only real competition, so aim high GM and don't price yourself out of the market GM should do just fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 752118)
Diesels are generally underrated when it comes to EPA testing. A quick trip to fueleconomy.gov confirms that most people destroy the EPA estimates. 40mpg+ combined is going to be lovely, and is way better than the 28mpg people are seeing with the regular turbo model.

The article states that the diesel cruze in australia averages 34mpg combined, which is pretty decent. For comparison sake, fueleconomy.gov states the 2010 4 door Jetta TDI is also rated at 34mpg combined, and users are reporting an average of 38.1 combined.

While I would love to see world beating numbers out of this car, I would be perfectly happy as long as it ends up with similar mpg numbers and still comes in a bit cheaper than the Jetta. The warranty alone would be a gib selling point for a lot of people with long highway commutes that choose the TDIs.

A friend of mine just traded in his '05 Mini Cooper S on a 2011 Golf TDI, and the only downside he's worried about is the fact that his 36k mile warranty will be shot in less than 2 years due to his commute (Easton, PA to Princeton, NJ).

- Justin

BonzoHansen 02-22-2011 06:10 PM

28 sucks for a 4cyl econobox.

NastyEllEssWon 02-22-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 752153)
28 sucks for a 4cyl econobox.



yeah really. my little saturn does 30s on a heavy foot. 40 if i try.

V 02-22-2011 07:00 PM

i get low 30s if i reset it and do the NY-NJ drive(75mph, not the better 65), but i get the 28ish while up here due to the long warm ups i give it. I can remote start it twice(runs for 10 min each) before i have to put the key in and start it normally. so i let it run 10-15 min before driving it, at 0'F to -20'F , thats the only real choice.


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