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WildBillyT · 02-22-2011, 10:52 AM

Does anybody know if the diesel Cruze will actually happen in 2013, or is it still in infancy? If so, will it be offered with a manual trans? Al, you out there?

V · 02-22-2011, 10:57 AM

a link that Al posted on facebook like 3 days ago...

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...-power-100638/

BigAls87Z28 · 02-22-2011, 11:39 AM

Yep...we broke the news. Diesel Cruze is a go for 2013.

T69SS · 02-22-2011, 12:00 PM

Pretty awesome

BigAls87Z28 · 02-22-2011, 12:02 PM

Not sure of the manual option though, but its possible.

WildBillyT · 02-22-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Yep...we broke the news. Diesel Cruze is a go for 2013.

Thanks!

Turbo diesel or NA?

1QWIKBIRD · 02-22-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Thanks!

Turbo diesel or NA?

Its got to be turbo, otherwise it will be a complete and total dog. And it had better get mid 40's on the MPG otherwise its a wasted effort. If the VW Jetta can do it, GM had better figure it out as well. The Jetta is its only real competition, so aim high GM and don't price yourself out of the market GM should do just fine.

Frosty · 02-22-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD

Its got to be turbo, otherwise it will be a complete and total dog. And it had better get mid 40's on the MPG otherwise its a wasted effort. If the VW Jetta can do it, GM had better figure it out as well. The Jetta is its only real competition, so aim high GM and don't price yourself out of the market GM should do just fine.

^^^ This

LTb1ow · 02-22-2011, 01:56 PM

Ew a smoky smelly diesel.

Priuses are better.

Frosty · 02-22-2011, 01:57 PM

That would be Pruii noob

LTb1ow · 02-22-2011, 01:57 PM

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That would be Pruii noob

qwikz28 · 02-22-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD

Its got to be turbo, otherwise it will be a complete and total dog. And it had better get mid 40's on the MPG otherwise its a wasted effort. If the VW Jetta can do it, GM had better figure it out as well. The Jetta is its only real competition, so aim high GM and don't price yourself out of the market GM should do just fine.

Diesels are generally underrated when it comes to EPA testing. A quick trip to fueleconomy.gov confirms that most people destroy the EPA estimates. 40mpg+ combined is going to be lovely, and is way better than the 28mpg people are seeing with the regular turbo model.

Blacdout96 · 02-22-2011, 02:59 PM

Dear 21st Century American car companies,

Glad to hear you're entering the market of diesel powered passenger cars, better late to the party then never I guess.

Sincerely,
1970's European car companies

LS1Hawk · 02-22-2011, 03:22 PM

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Ew a smoky smelly diesel.

Priuses are better.

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Originally Posted by Frosty

That would be Pruii noob

Prii...credit the Toyota faithful for that: http://www.freep.com/article/20110222/BLOG40/110222061/1014/business01?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitte r&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FreepAutoNews+%28freep.com+ |+Auto+News%29&utm_content=Twitter

Frosty · 02-22-2011, 03:24 PM

Eh, I was close with the spelling.

Hopefully no one drives the Prii while drunk or they'll cause millions of recalls.

BonzoHansen · 02-22-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28

Diesels are generally underrated when it comes to EPA testing. A quick trip to fueleconomy.gov confirms that most people destroy the EPA estimates. 40mpg+ combined is going to be lovely, and is way better than the 28mpg people are seeing with the regular turbo model.

what gets 28, the cruze?

qwikz28 · 02-22-2011, 03:28 PM

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what gets 28, the cruze?

According to the user submitted figures on fueleconomy.gov.

V · 02-22-2011, 03:34 PM

yeah, id say 28 is reasonable for the 1.4 turbo

r0nin89 · 02-22-2011, 03:48 PM

Al correct me if Im wrong but when I was in GMASEP alot of the teachers were former GM corporate employees. My one teacher told us from the very beginning that small turbo diesels were, are and always will be the key to conservation but the topic for the American market had come up 100s of times on the GM chopping block and got shot down because of the big rig, black cloud spewing, rotten egg stigma that diesels have in the US.

sweetbmxrider · 02-22-2011, 03:58 PM

Diesels do smell, drive around in a European country for a day and you'll have the black lung.

LTb1ow · 02-22-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

Diesels do smell, drive around in a European country for a day and you'll have the black lung.

Tru2Chevy · 02-22-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD

Its got to be turbo, otherwise it will be a complete and total dog. And it had better get mid 40's on the MPG otherwise its a wasted effort. If the VW Jetta can do it, GM had better figure it out as well. The Jetta is its only real competition, so aim high GM and don't price yourself out of the market GM should do just fine.

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Originally Posted by qwikz28

Diesels are generally underrated when it comes to EPA testing. A quick trip to fueleconomy.gov confirms that most people destroy the EPA estimates. 40mpg+ combined is going to be lovely, and is way better than the 28mpg people are seeing with the regular turbo model.

The article states that the diesel cruze in australia averages 34mpg combined, which is pretty decent. For comparison sake, fueleconomy.gov states the 2010 4 door Jetta TDI is also rated at 34mpg combined, and users are reporting an average of 38.1 combined.

While I would love to see world beating numbers out of this car, I would be perfectly happy as long as it ends up with similar mpg numbers and still comes in a bit cheaper than the Jetta. The warranty alone would be a gib selling point for a lot of people with long highway commutes that choose the TDIs.

A friend of mine just traded in his '05 Mini Cooper S on a 2011 Golf TDI, and the only downside he's worried about is the fact that his 36k mile warranty will be shot in less than 2 years due to his commute (Easton, PA to Princeton, NJ).

- Justin

BonzoHansen · 02-22-2011, 06:10 PM

28 sucks for a 4cyl econobox.

NastyEllEssWon · 02-22-2011, 06:41 PM

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28 sucks for a 4cyl econobox.

yeah really. my little saturn does 30s on a heavy foot. 40 if i try.

V · 02-22-2011, 07:00 PM

i get low 30s if i reset it and do the NY-NJ drive(75mph, not the better 65), but i get the 28ish while up here due to the long warm ups i give it. I can remote start it twice(runs for 10 min each) before i have to put the key in and start it normally. so i let it run 10-15 min before driving it, at 0'F to -20'F , thats the only real choice.