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SSmokin99 12-02-2007 07:07 PM
suspension help!!
 
Hey i have a 99 camaro ss...looking for some opinions on the best lowering springs to use...lookin to drop the car like 1-1 1/2"...also shocks? any ideaass?

Tru2Chevy 12-02-2007 07:45 PM
Are you dropping it just for looks, or are you after better handling in the twisties as well? Do you drag race the car often?

- Justin

qwikz28 12-02-2007 10:31 PM
stranoparts.com strano springs and koni 4/3 shocks. probably the best handling combination out right now.

NightRydaSS 12-04-2007 05:31 PM
:drool::drool::drool:

so many options....

wretched73 12-04-2007 09:42 PM
Yea there really is, i'm a fan of eibach springs, got them on my '83 and love them

procamaroz28 12-04-2007 09:49 PM
try BMR they got bang for buck and i like there stuff on my car so far but i dont got springs

NightRydaSS 12-05-2007 08:48 AM
the springs from strano seem kickin; but, isn't 500lb compress rate a lil over kill? I mean i want a stiff ride and great handeling, but i also want my suspension to absorb some roads bumps. i don't want to feel like i have steel bars as shocks.

what is the difference between 325lbs springs and 500lbs springs (other then the compression rate)?

qwikz28 12-05-2007 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NightRydaSS (Post 401111)
the springs from strano seem kickin; but, isn't 500lb compress rate a lil over kill? I mean i want a stiff ride and great handeling, but i also want my suspension to absorb some roads bumps. i don't want to feel like i have steel bars as shocks.

what is the difference between 325lbs springs and 500lbs springs (other then the compression rate)?
cant tell you much but i have the strano springs and when they are damped with the konis, the ride isn't bad at all. much firmer than stock but no where near as harsh as stock. its a strange sensation but i love it.

ar0ck 12-05-2007 10:07 PM
Jakes car rode pretty smooth IMO. Hell of a lot smoother then when I was on the SLP Eihbachs & Bilstiens.

qwikz28 12-06-2007 09:03 AM
shocks are a bigger factor in handling and ride quality than springs. get good shocks before making any other executive decisions'

NightRydaSS 12-07-2007 07:23 AM
i have Bilstein shocks; any suggestions as to what springs?

Tru2Chevy 12-08-2007 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NightRydaSS (Post 401697)
i have Bilstein shocks; any suggestions as to what springs?
Which Bilsteins?

- Justin

qwikz28 12-08-2007 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 402080)
Which Bilsteins?

- Justin
i think they only make HDs for our cars. if i were you, i would get them revalved to the specific springs you get. its the proper way to go about things and its best way to maximize handling and ride quality.

1QWIKBIRD 12-09-2007 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 400485)
stranoparts.com strano springs and koni 4/3 shocks. probably the best handling combination out right now.
Give a call to Sam Strano.....talk to the man. Check out his website. Pick up the last two or three copies of GM High tech Performance, the just did a three part deal on Sam's car and his parts onto a stock Z28.

Santa came early and left a set of his springs my back porch so I'll let you know how the ride height changes and the ride quality changes just after the new year.:nod:

Chris

qwikz28 12-09-2007 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD (Post 402158)
Give a call to Sam Strano.....talk to the man. Check out his website. Pick up the last two or three copies of GM High tech Performance, the just did a three part deal on Sam's car and his parts onto a stock Z28.

Santa came early and left a set of his springs my back porch so I'll let you know how the ride height changes and the ride quality changes just after the new year.:nod:

Chris
something like this: (with a 12 bolt which makes the back end sit ~.5" higher)
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...0726070823.jpg

1QWIKBIRD 12-09-2007 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 402220)
something like this: (with a 12 bolt which makes the back end sit ~.5" higher)
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...0726070823.jpg
That's nice. I should be in the same boat then because I have a 12 bolt in the chicken also. Did you happen to measure the before and after? Just curious.

Chris

qwikz28 12-09-2007 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD (Post 402328)
That's nice. I should be in the same boat then because I have a 12 bolt in the chicken also. Did you happen to measure the before and after? Just curious.

Chris
nope... probably wouldn't have helped though. my car sat really low in teh front for some odd reason. guess premature wear from bad driving. stance is nice now though although i would prefer it to be slightly lower in the rear, which is the fault of the 12 bolt. so far its the best mod i did to my car

NightRydaSS 12-10-2007 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 402080)
Which Bilsteins?

- Justin
they're the same shocks that come with the SLP shock and spring package only w/o the springs. I would have bought the springs but: A) i wasn't sure of my desired ride height. B) I didn't have money for the adj panhard bar, lower control arms w/ relocation brackets.

Quote:
Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 402084)
i think they only make HDs for our cars. if i were you, i would get them revalved to the specific springs you get. its the proper way to go about things and its best way to maximize handling and ride quality.
Yea i know, but, i bought the shocks on ebay brand new for $400. I'm not looking for "balls out" race ready competion handeling, I'll deal with however the ride comfort is with the shocks how they're valved from the factory (can't be real bad b/c they're the same ones the come with springs from SLP). I'm not spending the money for they to be revalved, or spend the money for new shocks as these aren't even a yr old yet.

With that being said; what kind of springs should i be lookig at? Like what kind of spring rate? I want stiffer then stock, but i also want to feel like i have shocks on the car. lol.

qwikz28 12-10-2007 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NightRydaSS (Post 402426)
they're the same shocks that come with the SLP shock and spring package only w/o the springs. I would have bought the springs but: A) i wasn't sure of my desired ride height. B) I didn't have money for the adj panhard bar, lower control arms w/ relocation brackets.



Yea i know, but, i bought the shocks on ebay brand new for $400. I'm not looking for "balls out" race ready competion handeling, I'll deal with however the ride comfort is with the shocks how they're valved from the factory (can't be real bad b/c they're the same ones the come with springs from SLP). I'm not spending the money for they to be revalved, or spend the money for new shocks as these aren't even a yr old yet.

With that being said; what kind of springs should i be lookig at? Like what kind of spring rate? I want stiffer then stock, but i also want to feel like i have shocks on the car. lol.
i would check out hotchkiss springs. from my understanding, they are the closest spring rates to the eibachs and i heard awesome reviews about them. for what its worth, i would own a set of those had the strano springs never come out. ride height is pretty nice too, only about a quarter inch or so higher than my setup right now. look into them, they are definitely what you're looking for. heres a pic of the ride height comparison:
your old slp setup:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...bachprokit.jpg
and the hotchkiss:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...8/hotchkis.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...tchkissusp.jpg

NightRydaSS 12-10-2007 08:59 AM
perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ap2000z28 12-10-2007 09:58 PM
Strano springs here with revalved bilsteins. These pics are right after the install, the height has since lowered over time.

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/34...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/34...500x500Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/32...500x500Q85.jpg

NightRydaSS 12-11-2007 07:13 AM
what does it cost to get shocks revalved?

ap2000z28 12-11-2007 01:21 PM
I bought mine directly from Sam I believe I paid like 550 for the shocks.

qwikz28 12-11-2007 01:33 PM
i think its about 200 bucks for the revalve, don't quote me on that though

ar0ck 12-12-2007 08:21 PM
Be warned that Eibachs have rear sag issues.

Stock:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9...maro/AR008.jpg

Eibach SLP Springs:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9...ro/tint003.jpg

Hypercoil Springs:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9...res004copy.jpg

I'll have to update with my coil-overs up front.


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