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Blackbirdws6 10-23-2010 06:49 PM

How to: Fix a car that won't start
 
Properly diagnosing a car that will crank but not start can be tricky. Most would assume that a LT1 must have an issue related to the opti, coil, or ICM. From those who stayed after the Nats today, remember to first try and tap the fuse box in the engine bay. Works like a charm and some may consider this a "free mod". ;)

Thanks to many of the JSFBOA, Justin, Paul and Sam/Janet for sticking around after the Nats to help get the Bird started. Pretty entertaining. :)

Featherburner 10-23-2010 07:10 PM

The old tap on the fuse box trick. Works every time 50% of the time. Just like knocking on wood.

LTb1ow 10-23-2010 09:14 PM

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...SH20_OU01_.jpg

You need.

Tru2Chevy 10-23-2010 09:15 PM

Just happy to see it running Brian. :)

Although it would have been fun to see you start your build thread with "so after the nats the car wouldn't start - had to fix it" and then just post a pic of an empty engine bay.

- Justin


::edit:: - LOL @ Black & Decker

BonzoHansen 10-23-2010 09:27 PM

Glad to hear it. Such a great car.

I think that great black 1st gen firebird had some issues going home. when we stopped to see if they needed help, they all said no but we thought we heard 'spun bearing' . I hope not, she seemed to have so much fun racing today (sorry, I don't have her name in front of me right now).

Tru2Chevy 10-23-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 733563)
I think that great black 1st gen firebird had some issues going home. when we stopped to see if they needed help, they all said no but we thought we heard 'spun bearing' . I hope not, she seemed to have so much fun racing today (sorry, I don't have her name in front of me right now).

Ouch, hopefully it was just something minor. FWIW, I believe her name is Donna.

- Justin

Blackbirdws6 10-24-2010 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 733556)
You need.

Lol. I can assure you with the new build, the wiring you saw in that corner will be non-existent with the new build. That's the problem when you are trying to get a tach signal for 3 different items lol. Dammn gauges :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 733557)
Just happy to see it running Brian. :)

Although it would have been fun to see you start your build thread with "so after the nats the car wouldn't start - had to fix it" and then just post a pic of an empty engine bay.

- Justin


::edit:: - LOL @ Black & Decker

Oh I wouldn't count something like that out just yet...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 733563)
Glad to hear it. Such a great car.

I think that great black 1st gen firebird had some issues going home. when we stopped to see if they needed help, they all said no but we thought we heard 'spun bearing' . I hope not, she seemed to have so much fun racing today (sorry, I don't have her name in front of me right now).

Thanks and I'm just happy the opti wasn't the problem considering it may have been the first to crap out backing up into a parking spot.

sweetbmxrider 10-24-2010 10:02 PM

don't forget the "Fire in the hole!"

its a call of jsfboa :)

KirkEvil 10-24-2010 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 733878)
don't forget the "Fire in the hole!"

its a call of jsfboa :)

followed by a pal dance to seal the success...Haha

V 10-24-2010 10:13 PM

im glad it all worked out and it started, and before the tow truck showed up.

BigAls87Z28 10-24-2010 11:19 PM

LT1 car doesnt start ---> Is it the Opti?
No---->Are you sure?
Yes------>Are you really sure?
Yes------> Hit relay box, and yell "fire in the hole!" Did it work?
Yes-----> Pal Dance
No------>Its the Opti

sweetbmxrider 10-25-2010 07:14 AM

hahahaha

Blackbirdws6 10-25-2010 04:27 PM

Mark my words, this opti will leave the car in working condition.

http://blogs.westword.com/showandtell/010haters.jpg

sweetbmxrider 10-25-2010 04:43 PM

hahaha hey thanks for the beer again, but i still owe you one!

Blackbirdws6 10-25-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 734019)
hahaha hey thanks for the beer again, but i still owe you one!

No worries. That's what I get for winning two trophies.

I will overlook the beer for assistance with the bird in the future. Something other than wiring of course ;)

sweetbmxrider 10-25-2010 08:48 PM

zing! haha i'm pretty good at teh engine removal and misc lt1 nonsense 8-)

Blackbirdws6 10-26-2010 07:19 AM

Beer and food will be served Nov. 7th if you are interested. All Pals are welcome.

sweetbmxrider 10-26-2010 07:24 AM

you've got my attention :lol: should be able to give a hand

BigAls87Z28 10-26-2010 07:48 AM

Nov 7th sounds good.

KirkEvil 10-26-2010 01:41 PM

Im in for more lt1 extravaganza!!!

Blackbirdws6 10-26-2010 04:39 PM

Wow awesome! Talk about some nice Pals.

Goals are the following:

- Drop the K member with engine of course
- Get the old engine harness out
- Remove nitrous system
- Strip the engine of basic parts (shortblock will stay intact)
- Remove as much of the interior as possible

Should be plenty of room to help and plenty of drinks/food/music to keep us motivated in a well-lit oversized two car garage.

Once stuff is apart, I can likely handle much of the work to rebuild until its time to put the big items back in.

KirkEvil 10-26-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 (Post 734168)
Wow awesome! Talk about some nice Pals.

Goals are the following:

- Drop the K member with engine of course
- Get the old engine harness out
- Remove nitrous system
- Strip the engine of basic parts (shortblock will stay intact)
- Remove as much of the interior as possible

Should be plenty of room to help and plenty of drinks/food/music to keep us motivated in a well-lit oversized two car garage.

Once stuff is apart, I can likely handle much of the work to rebuild until its time to put the big items back in.

Do you have A/C, or plan on keeping it?

LTb1ow 10-26-2010 05:12 PM

Sounds exactly like what we did to my car, I am in for round two.

Do you have a cherry picker Brian? And are you planning on removing the body panels and hood?

Blackbirdws6 10-26-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 734174)
Sounds exactly like what we did to my car, I am in for round two.

Do you have a cherry picker Brian? And are you planning on removing the body panels and hood?

I will take all the skilled help I can get. Front bumper is coming off and so will the hood. Would like to keep the front fenders on (remove the liners). I will be borrowing Jon's cherry picker but would probably suggest additional tools be brought (mainly sockets and such) so everyone can keep moving and won't need to wait for a tool.

I have a compressor and everything else to get it done. Since I will likely be putting a lot of the stuff back together, I'm going to be picky with keeping things organized. Easy to rip apart but very easy to have stuff everywhere making it a pain to put back together.

Kirk - A/C will be staying. The compressor will be replaced during the build since mine is leaking a little bit.

LTb1ow 10-26-2010 05:45 PM

Ok, shouldn't be too horrible, my biggest concern would be messing up your beautiful paint etc.

Do you have flare wrenches for brake lines?

Long list of stuff, I guess I'll wait till you make a thread etc.


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