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03-03-2007, 03:28 PM
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What is it about turbo buicks
Why is it that turbo buick cars have no problems with modifications and the right suspensions runing 10's and faster? But when a chevy v6 gets a cam and heads and a custom turbo kit, it doesnt go nearly as fast? Whats different about the buick verses chevys v6?
Im sorry if this is in the wrong place
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03-03-2007, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WayFast84
Why is it that turbo buick cars have no problems with modifications and the right suspensions runing 10's and faster? But when a chevy v6 gets a cam and heads and a custom turbo kit, it doesnt go nearly as fast? Whats different about the buick verses chevys v6?
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1. its called aftermarket support, look into it
2. TB's were set up for boost from the factory, a regular n/a v6 was not...turbo buicks can run upwards of 20 pounds of boost on the stock motor if set up correctly, where as an N/a block turned boosted can run say 6-8...
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03-03-2007, 04:03 PM
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because azz hats cant build em right!
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03-03-2007, 04:54 PM
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the gn / tta 3800 engine has absolutely nothing similar to a series II 3800 (95.5 - 02 f-bodies) except for the displacement. Their heads and intakes are designed much better
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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03-03-2007, 04:58 PM
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What kind of Chevy V6? Only Chevy V6 I can think of are the 60* 2.8/3.1/3.4/3.5/3.9 OHV ones, and the 4.3 V6.
The 3.8 is a 90* V6 and the engines were built to handle the boost. Now, if you compare the TTA to the GN, equally modded, then there is a difference.
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03-03-2007, 05:00 PM
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Al, read my post again.
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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03-03-2007, 05:06 PM
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Kasey, I dont care what you have to say at all. The TTA has different heads then the Turbo Buick's, yet is much faster.
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03-03-2007, 07:08 PM
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Where can I find a list of all the buicks that came stock with turbo's? Im looking into something for about a year or two from now.
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03-03-2007, 08:29 PM
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pretty much the 84? -87/88 ttype or regal. also the 89tta
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03-03-2007, 08:30 PM
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turbobuicks.com
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and 1 more smart ass answer by you and i'm going to reach into this monitor and grab you by the throat
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03-03-2007, 11:13 PM
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turbobuicks.com
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You want the 86 and newer. Thoes were the SFI ones.
Heres a link to run 9, 10 and 11 seconds (they are tested methods)
http://www.rjcracing.com/9_10_11_Sec..._receipes.html
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03-03-2007, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Kasey, I dont care what you have to say at all. The TTA has different heads then the Turbo Buick's, yet is much faster.
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Which still has no relevance to what he was saying. 
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03-04-2007, 02:04 AM
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don't forget lower compression!
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03-04-2007, 02:12 AM
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good luck finding a cheap turbo buick, prices are goin up on all of em, even the T-Type regals are gettin up there
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03-04-2007, 04:49 AM
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my old man had a 87 riviara T-Type that thing got it...the difference is...chevy V-6s fire differently than buick odd fire/even fire wikipedia acualy has this charted out...the buick engine just likes boost better...the 3.4 ehhhh not so much theres thing you can do to make it but not really...not to mention the chevy V-6 aftermarket is nill...i've tried the easy way...there is none
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03-04-2007, 06:32 AM
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Quote:
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Now, if you compare the TTA to the GN, equally modded, then there is a difference.
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As having ridden in both (with the same mods) I have to agree.
Plus the TType doesnt have the aerodynamics of a Cracker Box
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03-04-2007, 07:55 AM
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dont forget the syclone and typhoons, not buicks, but definately some pretty nasty little tubro 4.3s
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03-04-2007, 09:39 AM
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what is nasty about a 14 second awd turbo? Plus they are a real pain to work on.
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03-04-2007, 10:09 AM
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what is nasty about a 14 second awd turbo? Plus they are a real pain to work on.
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ok well i dont mean "nasty" bone stock, ive seen more than enough with serious work done that moved. but i admit i never worked on one so i dont know what thats like. and dont get me wrong, im not sayign they are better than the buicks just saying gm had other stuff which i think is worth mentioning.
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03-04-2007, 10:10 AM
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what is nasty about a 14 second awd turbo? Plus they are a real pain to work on.
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Because I dont know the last time (until the TBSS) that ive seen a 14 sec SUV...and like anything new isnt a pain to work on.
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03-04-2007, 10:18 AM
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If the buick was fired differently why cant the chevy v6's have the same firing order with a different cam, like the 3-7(i think thats it) swap cam sorts of thing
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If they were seroius about making something new they probably wouldnt have been such a pos. Instead they plopped a tiny water to air intercooled turbo kit on a stock 4.3 (yes its the same engine) a locked out transfer case and the same crappy differentials ooo but they have a locker in the front. At least the turbo buicks were totally engineered to be a performance car. Low compression, turbo, intercooler, sfi, and a strong enough drivetrain to handle the power.
If you cant tell I work on my fair share of both of these cars.
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Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE
If they were seroius about making something new they probably wouldnt have been such a pos. Instead they plopped a tiny water to air intercooled turbo kit on a stock 4.3 (yes its the same engine) a locked out transfer case and the same crappy differentials ooo but they have a locker in the front. At least the turbo buicks were totally engineered to be a performance car. Low compression, turbo, intercooler, sfi, and a strong enough drivetrain to handle the power.
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Amen. The turbo 4.3's aren't even in the same league as the Buick 3.8's
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03-04-2007, 12:04 PM
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my buddy had an 11 sec typhoon with different turbo and injectors ported intake! nothing else!
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screw it, get a K20 boosted civic with VTTAKK yo, that will beat all
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