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07-28-2009, 12:24 PM
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LS1 Balancer tool
im just about halfway done the reinstall of everything on my z and i was wondering if anyone had a tool to install the balancer and would be willing to either stop by for a little bit so i can use it or let me borrow it to get the job done
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07-28-2009, 12:24 PM
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KirkEvil has one.
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07-28-2009, 12:31 PM
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thanks ill shoot him a pm
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07-28-2009, 02:41 PM
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The harmonic balancer that needs to be pressed on?
If so you use the old bolt and torq it to 200 something lbs then remove it and put the new bolt in and trq it to 60ish, I don't know the exact numbers but that is what the chilton book said to do and it worked great for me.
Ask Ron aka 98taDriver he has the specifics.
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07-28-2009, 04:09 PM
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well i tried but the stock bolt seemed a little to short with the balancer on the end of the crank(couldnt catch and threads) but yea ive found alot of sites on the specs plus i have the set of GM service manuals for the 98 f bodys. i figured anyway while its off that im just going to order and underdrive pulley anyway so that should be here thursday or friday.
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07-28-2009, 05:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emolineaux
well i tried but the stock bolt seemed a little to short with the balancer on the end of the crank(couldnt catch and threads) but yea ive found alot of sites on the specs plus i have the set of GM service manuals for the 98 f bodys. i figured anyway while its off that im just going to order and underdrive pulley anyway so that should be here thursday or friday.
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I have a tool to install the balancer. I bought it off LS1tech and it works like a charm, no chance to damage threads in the snout of the crank shaft or any of that. When you are ready for it, let me know. I work in Mt. Holly and live in Hamilton, so I could drop it off after work one day.
Here's a link to the tool I have....
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/tools-...tool-pics.html
Chris
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07-28-2009, 10:22 PM
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if you cant catch threads with the stock bolt bang on it with a rubber mallet or dead blow to press it in a bit.
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07-28-2009, 10:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
if you cant catch threads with the stock bolt bang on it with a rubber mallet or dead blow to press it in a bit.
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Ya with a SBC you need to get it on a bit further or you can pull the threads out of the snout, soulds like LSx is similar
Here's a link to the tool I have....
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/tools-...tool-pics.html
I saw that before, looks nice for a "home made" tool too
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07-29-2009, 09:20 AM
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i rented a normal balancer install tool from autozone...
didnt work, so i cut up and modified the tool to work properly.
obviously i could never return it then,... was only like 35 bucks if that and now ill always have one
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07-29-2009, 12:00 PM
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Don't order the Comp Cams one from summit, it wont work, I learned the hard way after getting it over nighted to me.
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07-29-2009, 04:11 PM
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chris (1QWIKBIRD) is letting me borrow his to install my new balancer
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07-29-2009, 04:39 PM
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I used a BFH and an impact socket. Works like a charm and no chance of damaging threads.
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07-29-2009, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
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I used a BFH and an impact socket. Works like a charm and no chance of damaging threads.
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With the right tools there's no chance of damaging threads either and you don't beat on the thrust bearing. I wouldn't ever try using the old bolt to pull it on, that's asking to strip the threads in the snout of the crank.
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07-29-2009, 05:40 PM
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BFH = potential bearing issues. That is why they make install tools.
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07-29-2009, 05:56 PM
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put the balancer in the oven for like 10 mins on 250* it will expand the hub and it will go on the crank. then with a wooden block and a hammer, beat it on there, then torque according to specs. NEVER had any problems
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07-29-2009, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
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BFH = potential bearing issues. That is why they make install tools.
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x2. a dead blow or rubber mallet is the way to go on this one.
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07-29-2009, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
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x2. a dead blow or rubber mallet is the way to go on this one.
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? are you agreeing or disagreeing. those are not balancer install tools
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
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07-29-2009, 08:32 PM
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rubber mallets and dead blows are a lot softer than a real hammer.....ive pounded plenty of balencers with rubber mallets and never had a problem
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07-29-2009, 08:36 PM
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as Pops used to say there is a right way a wrong way and my way. no professional engine builder I've ever spoken to smacks a balancer on with a hammer. but many balancers have been installed in that manner w/o incident. it's wrong, but if nothing goes wrong oh well.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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07-29-2009, 09:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
as Pops used to say there is a right way a wrong way and my way. no professional engine builder I've ever spoken to smacks a balancer on with a hammer. but many balancers have been installed in that manner w/o incident. it's wrong, but if nothing goes wrong oh well.
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Yeah, same deal with suspension bushings and a BFH. Use the right tool for the job unless you run out of options.
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08-02-2009, 05:55 PM
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ill tell ya what. that blancer installer that chris (1QWIKBIRD) dropped off worked like a charm. balancer went right on.
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