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11-14-2004, 01:25 PM
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Little G better get on the ball
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99 Riviera, Bone stock, 14.34 @ 96 "Walking 5.0's in luxury" RIP
95 Cherokee, Bone stock 16.2 @ 83 "Treeing your 3rd gen and beating it to the line despite trapping less....and looking better"
93 TA, Bone stock, 13.8 @ 100 "Beating ****** drivers in ****** LS1's"
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11-14-2004, 03:34 PM
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Re: Little G better get on the ball
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
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funny that the guy who can't change his own oil and won't replace his dead opti is the one to talk smack about people getting on the ball. :finger:
actually the number is currently at a 13.94 @ 94.5 for matt. get with teh program dude. hehe
later
tim
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11-14-2004, 04:03 PM
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p.s. craig has a few tricks up his sleeve for wednesday night. don't worry about it. hehe
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11-14-2004, 05:48 PM
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Matt's best run: 13.944 @ 95.44 with a 1.952 60'
And don't bother with heads up Craig, 'cos he's cutting good lights too....that run was a .070
- Justin
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11-14-2004, 05:48 PM
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Re: Little G better get on the ball
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
funny that the guy who can't change his own oil and won't replace his dead opti is the one to talk smack about people getting on the ball. :finger:
later
tim
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Heh, I just changed the oil for the first time on the Trans. (Only had it since like, june. first change i had zero time, so i took it to get done) God damnit. and from what i hear, the 4th gens are supposed to be even tighter than the 3rd gens. Oh well. I finally got a look at how bad my flat spot is (think 60-0 as fast as possible when a t top flies off) (_) lol its pretty bad.
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11-14-2004, 05:53 PM
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HOLY S%#&! damn matt good job...when you pickin up that rim/tire? That thing is heavy as hell  craig better get on it...hey craig did u get the wideband/enhanced version of hptuenrs yet?
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11-14-2004, 09:38 PM
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Re: Little G better get on the ball
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
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funny that the guy who can't change his own oil and won't replace his dead opti is the one to talk smack about people getting on the ball. :finger:
actually the number is currently at a 13.94 @ 94.5 for matt. get with teh program dude. hehe
later
tim
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life sucks....buy a ****ing helmet :finger:
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99 Riviera, Bone stock, 14.34 @ 96 "Walking 5.0's in luxury" RIP
95 Cherokee, Bone stock 16.2 @ 83 "Treeing your 3rd gen and beating it to the line despite trapping less....and looking better"
93 TA, Bone stock, 13.8 @ 100 "Beating ****** drivers in ****** LS1's"
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R.I.P. Tia
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11-14-2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: Little G better get on the ball
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
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funny that the guy who can't change his own oil and won't replace his dead opti is the one to talk smack about people getting on the ball. :finger:
actually the number is currently at a 13.94 @ 94.5 for matt. get with teh program dude. hehe
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life sucks....buy a ****ing helmet :finger:
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man up and race you pussy
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11-14-2004, 11:49 PM
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Congrats! That's not too shabby for a fullsize pickup without a blower 8)
I think I can get you a few more tenths and like another mph with some more chip tuning. I want to get a wideband on it before I lean it out at WOT. I CAN however lean it out a bunch more in open loop so long as the catalytic converter is MIA. If it's there I can only remove a tad bit so as not to melt it. Also if you notice a decrease in gas milage because of that "decel backfire" let me know and I can give you another chip that'll be smooth as glass.
As for Squirrel, he's got a chip FINALLY installed in his car. Should be interesting to see how it runs at the track if it ever makes it there  .
Craig, I can help you get into the 13's. Since you don't have cats we can lean her out a bit. When you lean it out you can add the ever so slightest amount more of timing at WOT since leaner burns do burn slower. I've even got a slick fuel curve that richens everything up a bunch right before you shift... I'll explain the reasoning in person.
Matt, sorry I couldn't go, I got my car running though  . Friend came over and we reassembled my TBI, got it fired up and now I'm back in buiesness.
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If it\'s EFI I can tune it. Specialize in 82-95 GM (yes Lt1\'s)
\"If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner till the time you brake for the next turn.......Then, you have enough horsepower\" - Mark Donohue
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11-15-2004, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
Congrats! That's not too shabby for a fullsize pickup without a blower 8)
I think I can get you a few more tenths and like another mph with some more chip tuning. I want to get a wideband on it before I lean it out at WOT. I CAN however lean it out a bunch more in open loop so long as the catalytic converter is MIA. If it's there I can only remove a tad bit so as not to melt it. Also if you notice a decrease in gas milage because of that "decel backfire" let me know and I can give you another chip that'll be smooth as glass.
As for Squirrel, he's got a chip FINALLY installed in his car. Should be interesting to see how it runs at the track if it ever makes it there  .
Craig, I can help you get into the 13's. Since you don't have cats we can lean her out a bit. When you lean it out you can add the ever so slightest amount more of timing at WOT since leaner burns do burn slower. I've even got a slick fuel curve that richens everything up a bunch right before you shift... I'll explain the reasoning in person.
Matt, sorry I couldn't go, I got my car running though  . Friend came over and we reassembled my TBI, got it fired up and now I'm back in buiesness.
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when am i gonna get your help on my gtp  im ordered the license today hehe
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11-15-2004, 10:45 AM
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Re: Little G better get on the ball
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man up and race you pussy
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calm down miss, dont get your pantaloons in a bunch...it'll get there eventually 8)
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99 Riviera, Bone stock, 14.34 @ 96 "Walking 5.0's in luxury" RIP
95 Cherokee, Bone stock 16.2 @ 83 "Treeing your 3rd gen and beating it to the line despite trapping less....and looking better"
93 TA, Bone stock, 13.8 @ 100 "Beating ****** drivers in ****** LS1's"
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R.I.P. Tia
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11-15-2004, 11:37 AM
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Man, this is going to get pretty ****ing serious before too long. I hate to see my friends have it out like this but what the hell.
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11-15-2004, 11:47 AM
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matt won the race to 13's....doesnt really seem important to me anymore
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99 Riviera, Bone stock, 14.34 @ 96 "Walking 5.0's in luxury" RIP
95 Cherokee, Bone stock 16.2 @ 83 "Treeing your 3rd gen and beating it to the line despite trapping less....and looking better"
93 TA, Bone stock, 13.8 @ 100 "Beating ****** drivers in ****** LS1's"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/285090241699967/
R.I.P. Tia
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11-15-2004, 11:51 AM
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Man, this is going to get pretty ****ing serious before too long. I hate to see my friends have it out like this but what the hell. 
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Don't worry Scott, Matt and Craig will handle themselves in their usual dignified manner.....wait, maybe you should be worried. I guess we'll have to wait till Wednesday to find out
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11-15-2004, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel
matt won the race to 13's....doesnt really seem important to me anymore 
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last i heard teh race was to see who was faster on a particular night. getting 13's is cool, but he still has to run better than craig on the same track, on the same night to prove who is quicker
if etown sees it's famous headwind i am saying craig has a serious advantage over the barn door aero of the big block.
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11-16-2004, 11:46 AM
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Heh - I think it will be close, but I'm saying that unless Craig has something new that I haven't heard about, Matt will take him by just a little (even though Craig will def. have the mph).
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11-16-2004, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Heh - I think it will be close, but I'm saying that unless Craig has something new that I haven't heard about, Matt will take him by just a little (even though Craig will def. have the mph).
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 but the mph can also be partly because matts truck is an auto compared to a more efficient m5 that craigs sportin.
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11-16-2004, 01:04 PM
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Little G, if you're reading this, remove the belt at the track. The power stearing and alternator will give you a tenth or more. Remember, even if those accesories aren't doing ANYTHING they're still being accelerated and the alternator is not a lightweight so it takes horsepower. It's the same idea as getting a light driveshaft, tires, and rotating assembly.
I hope to see that thing in the 13's before snow starts sticking.
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Owner of a Red Sled.
If it\'s EFI I can tune it. Specialize in 82-95 GM (yes Lt1\'s)
\"If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner till the time you brake for the next turn.......Then, you have enough horsepower\" - Mark Donohue
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11-16-2004, 03:36 PM
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i don't think 13's are really a problem at this point. teh car has proven to be very capable of enough trap speed(96.5-97mph) and has proven to cut short tiems that are plenty good(1.88-1.91 normally). jsut have to get these two elements together to make it happen.
craig worked out a few things last week at etown to get teh shrot time sbetter and more consistant, but it was into the etown head wind, he was down like 2.5mph. that isn't enough to compensate for shift time with the stick
we will see how it all shakes out tomorrow night. if that wind is there matt's traps speed will suffer more than craigs, but matt has shown to 60ft better, so ti si still anybody's game.
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11-16-2004, 04:00 PM
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so the boys are going head to head at etown tomorow?
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99 Riviera, Bone stock, 14.34 @ 96 "Walking 5.0's in luxury" RIP
95 Cherokee, Bone stock 16.2 @ 83 "Treeing your 3rd gen and beating it to the line despite trapping less....and looking better"
93 TA, Bone stock, 13.8 @ 100 "Beating ****** drivers in ****** LS1's"
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11-16-2004, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
Little G, if you're reading this, remove the belt at the track. The power stearing and alternator will give you a tenth or more. Remember, even if those accesories aren't doing ANYTHING they're still being accelerated and the alternator is not a lightweight so it takes horsepower. It's the same idea as getting a light driveshaft, tires, and rotating assembly.
I hope to see that thing in the 13's before snow starts sticking.
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u can remove the belt and still turn the car on?
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11-16-2004, 04:22 PM
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it'll survive for a couple runs....not sure if it will be able to crank after 4 or 5 runs though, unless you throw a charger on it in the pits
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99 Riviera, Bone stock, 14.34 @ 96 "Walking 5.0's in luxury" RIP
95 Cherokee, Bone stock 16.2 @ 83 "Treeing your 3rd gen and beating it to the line despite trapping less....and looking better"
93 TA, Bone stock, 13.8 @ 100 "Beating ****** drivers in ****** LS1's"
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11-16-2004, 04:28 PM
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when teh car is rolling it really isn't too bad to turn power steering with teh pump disconnected. if you are stopped or have to cut it to get in or out fo a parking spot it sucks monkey nuts.
so jsut drive straight back to teh lanes and you will be fine
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11-16-2004, 05:28 PM
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hrm i think ima try that tomorrow...dammit i need a 13
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11-16-2004, 05:45 PM
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I know removing the belt will help get into the 13's, it's just a matter of how bad you want it. Removing belts reduces bearing friction from single shear load paths AND reduces rotating inertia. Also power steering pumps do something funny... they never stop moving fluid. Since at low vehicle speeds you're usually at low engine speeds, the pump is designed to give you enough power assist there which means at higher engine speeds it's pumping a TON of fluid. There is a pressure relief valve internal to the pump that bypasses the vain pump circuit at high rpm but that doesn't happen until really high rpms.
The car will start easier without a belt, not by much but it will. Not to mention we could push him in the lanes. I've had my alternator go bad on me and my cars run for a good 20 minutes or more on the street on just the battery. I think it's possible so long as the battery is in great shape (less than 2 drains and alternator charges). I know he's drained it once before but it should still help.
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