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11-22-2004, 10:05 AM
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Mach 1 Block
I'm currently in a debate with someone I know (unfortunately) He has a 03(i think) mach 1 mustang, and hes insisting that it has an Alpha Romeo block. I say that alpha romeo makes little 4 cylinder engines for tiny little touring cars and that if i had an alpha romeo engine in an american v8 car, i would be ashamed and not tell anyone. I've asked a few people, and nobody knows for sure, but they dont think it has a romeo block. Im asking the masses now: What kinda block is it? If anyone has any websites or related info, please include a link. If I'm right, next time i see him i wanna pummel him with information showing him that hes wrong. Hes an *******. he deserves that kinda treatment.
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11-22-2004, 10:22 AM
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stop spending money on non-performance mods and get a decent performance setup in ur t/a then add n2o and pummel him on the track
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11-22-2004, 10:30 AM
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its not an Alpha romeo block, its more than likely a Romeo block...thats pretty probable since the old pre 03 Cobras had the same DOHC motor
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11-22-2004, 11:31 AM
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Re: Mach 1 Block
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
Â*I say that alpha romeo makes little 4 cylinder engines for tiny little touring cars and that if i had an alpha romeo engine in an american v8 car, i would be ashamed and not tell anyone.
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Why would you be ashamed? Even if it was true (which it isnt), , Alfa Romeo makes some quality products, and most of their products are hand made in Italy. Its quality top notch stuff. It blows away the craftsmanship of your standard american made small block.
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11-22-2004, 11:56 AM
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Look at alpha romeo cars. there tiny little 4 cylinder cars, and the fastest they probably go is 110. Im not saying that its a bad engine, im just saying that the only alpha romeo engines ive seen are 4 cylinder.
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11-22-2004, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
its not an Alpha romeo block, its more than likely a Romeo block...thats pretty probable since the old pre 03 Cobras had the same DOHC motor
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exactly what is a Romeo block? i thought romeo and alpha romeo were the same thing.
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11-22-2004, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
its not an Alpha romeo block, its more than likely a Romeo block...thats pretty probable since the old pre 03 Cobras had the same DOHC motor
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exactly what is a Romeo block? Â*i thought romeo and alpha romeo were the same thing.
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I think its a Romeo block (like Romeo & Juliet)
Engine: 4.6-liter/280.0 cu.-in. DOHC 32v V8 (Similiar to the 99-02 Cobras, minus the shaker hood)

And the car is Alfa Romeo (Ro-MEy-O)
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11-22-2004, 04:03 PM
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o, well he was pronouncing it Ro-may-yo...thats what made me wonder
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11-22-2004, 07:16 PM
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11-22-2004, 10:16 PM
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LEXI, are you done with the ford avatar yet?
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11-22-2004, 11:42 PM
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2003 Alfa Romeo 147 GTA. 3.2L V6 making 250 HP.
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11-22-2004, 11:46 PM
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 that's great!
I don't even want to think about all the money I've put into the Super Coupe.......It makes me sick!
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11-23-2004, 12:09 AM
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Romeo is where the engine is made. The Mach1 block is a Romeo block, as are all the Ford modular motors are. The SVT's motor is hand built, but the motor and parts are made at the Romeo plant.
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11-23-2004, 12:14 AM
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I was wondering when you'd post an answer  That brings me to my next question. SVT: He says its a completely seperate company, i say its a lineup, like SS, or AMG, or M. Whats the final answer Al?
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11-23-2004, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
I was wondering when you'd post an answer  Â* That brings me to my next question. Â*SVT: He says its a completely seperate company, i say its a lineup, like SS, or AMG, or M. Â*Whats the final answer Al?
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Lineup. It's Ford's in-house high-performance division.
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11-23-2004, 12:23 AM
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SVT is part of Ford, but they pretty much do what they want. I belive that SVT has its own budget for itself, but the SVT people are paid by Ford. I am not 100% of that, becaue I really could care. SVT has its own warranty program, and has its own engine building plants to hand build the Cobra and GT motors.
SS is different as its a branch of GM Performance Division. GMPD puts on badges per division.
SVT is more or like like PVO(Chrysler/Dodge), AMG and M.
Holden's performance divison, HSV, is a seperate division and is loosly based with Holden. HSV uses Holden cars in racing, and has made such sick machines as the infamous 427 Monaro.
I really wish Alfa sold cars here in the US again. Alfa is part of GM BTW...well, GM owns X% of Alfa.
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11-23-2004, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
SVT is part of Ford, but they pretty much do what they want. Â*I belive that SVT has its own budget for itself, but the SVT people are paid by Ford. Â*I am not 100% of that, becaue I really could care. Â*SVT has its own warranty program, and has its own engine building plants to hand build the Cobra and GT motors. Â* Â*
SS is different as its a branch of GM Performance Division. Â*GMPD puts on badges per division. Â*
SVT is more or like Â*like PVO(Chrysler/Dodge), AMG and M. Â*
Holden's performance divison, HSV, is a seperate division and is loosly based with Holden. Â*HSV uses Holden cars in racing, and has made such sick machines as the infamous 427 Monaro. Â* Â*
I really wish Alfa sold cars here in the US again. Â*Alfa is part of GM BTW...well, GM owns X% of Alfa.
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from what i hear, Alfa Romeo is coming back to the states in a few years.
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11-23-2004, 12:35 AM
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Yeah, I head that along with many other cars such as Fiat, Peugo(sp?), etc....but I doubt it.
Alfa would need a lot to come here.
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11-23-2004, 12:46 AM
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Peugot is here...sort of. Theres a peugot dealership in ramsey, but that place is shady as hell, and all of the peugots there (none for sale. they only repair them there) are ancient. But, there is at least 1 new peugot around here. its an orange one. dont know who owns it, or where its from...but yea.
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11-23-2004, 02:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
Peugot is here...sort of. Â*Theres a peugot dealership in ramsey, but that place is shady as hell, and all of the peugots there (none for sale. Â*they only repair them there) are ancient. Â*But, there is at least 1 new peugot around here. Â*its an orange one. Â*dont know who owns it, or where its from...but yea.
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how is it a dealership if they don't sell any cars? if they just repair them, that would make it a repair shop, wouldn't it?
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11-23-2004, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
Peugot is here...sort of. Â*Theres a peugot dealership in ramsey, but that place is shady as hell, and all of the peugots there (none for sale. Â*they only repair them there) are ancient. Â*But, there is at least 1 new peugot around here. Â*its an orange one. Â*dont know who owns it, or where its from...but yea.
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how is it a dealership if they don't sell any cars? if they just repair them, that would make it a repair shop, wouldn't it?
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from what i hear, they used to sell them back in the day, and they have a showroom, its just always closed. Some pretty nice cars in the showroom. A pantera, a delorean, an old thunderbird (OLD old), and a jaguar.
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11-23-2004, 11:30 AM
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Re: Mach 1 Block
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
I say that alpha romeo makes little 4 cylinder engines for tiny little touring cars and that if i had an alpha romeo engine in an american v8 car, i would be ashamed and not tell anyone.
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Why would you be ashamed? Even if it was true (which it isnt), , Alfa Romeo makes some quality products, and most of their products are hand made in Italy. Its quality top notch stuff. It blows away the craftsmanship of your standard american made small block.
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 CERTAINLY you must be talking about very recent history...Alfa Romeo has historically made some of the most unreliable crap ever sent to the United States in the past...fun cars, good looking ones in some cases even but I assure you that their engines were NOT  quite up to the standards of even a basic LS1 or Romeo plant (yes it is Romeo, a Ford owned plant in the US, NOT Alfa Romeo the Italian car company LOL) built modular V8.
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11-23-2004, 11:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
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Originally Posted by skorpion317
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
Peugot is here...sort of. Theres a peugot dealership in ramsey, but that place is shady as hell, and all of the peugots there (none for sale. they only repair them there) are ancient. But, there is at least 1 new peugot around here. its an orange one. dont know who owns it, or where its from...but yea.
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how is it a dealership if they don't sell any cars? if they just repair them, that would make it a repair shop, wouldn't it?
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from what i hear, they used to sell them back in the day, and they have a showroom, its just always closed. Some pretty nice cars in the showroom. A pantera, a delorean, an old thunderbird (OLD old), and a jaguar.
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Yeah I 've pulled through that place (on Route 17?) as well, Peugots all over the place and a couple of classics in the showroom.
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11-23-2004, 12:08 PM
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That Pantera 
1987 Pantera GTS
should be a 351 cleavland w/ a ZN 5 Speed Transmission, which was a lemanse winner in the Ford GT40
One of only 2 made that year
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11-23-2004, 12:10 PM
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That Pantera 
1987 Pantera GTS
should be a 351 cleavland w/ a ZN 5 Speed Transmission, which was a lemanse winner in the Ford GT40
One of only 2 made that year
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my mom's cousin owns a '79 Pantera, which he races on the weekends. beautiful car, only 8,000 miles on the odometer.
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