A Diesel Camaro: What do you think?

[BigAls87Z28]

What do you think? With CAFE getting hiked up to 35mpg for all of GM, a diesel engine could help Camaro achieve over 35mpg while maintaining performance.
GM is going to put the new 2.9 TDI V6 in the VE Holdens. They make 250hp adn 406ftlbs of torque. VE and Zeta are pretty much the same, it would make for an easy drop in, and a good 35mpg performance machine
GM also has its brand new 4.5 Duramax diesel. This engine will go into half ton pick ups and suv's. It has a brand new design where the cylinder heads are reverse,t he intake on the outside and the exhaust towards the center. The car will have no manifolds as the air will come right over the top of the valves on the intake side. It will fit in the same area as any current SBC. Its rating will be 350hp and 520ftlbs of torque.

So, which do you think would be cool?

[bubba428]

as long as its a turbo diesel, I guess thats not the worst they could do to it

[Knipps]

as long as it's not weak, i don't really think i'd have a problem what it ran on

[Tru2Chevy]

I can't say I would definitely buy one, but it would be nice to see either/both. Anything to help make diesel more mainstream is for the better....

- Justin

[procamaroz28]

why not dot not having a hidh reving tach will prob get to some of us

[EchoMirage]

say that in english?

[qwikz28]

Originally Posted by EchoMirage

say that in english?

Originally Posted by procamaroz28

not having a high revving tach will probably get to some of us

i did the best i could

[12secondv6]

No.

Granted.... I am a fan of diesel technology. I just turned in a 08 R320 CDI and saw a best of 34.5 mpg...... with more consistent 32 mpg and an average of about 30 mpg on long trips.

[SteveR]

Not a bad idea, but diesel prices are a lot more than gas.

[damon_Z]

Good info in the original post.

I do like the 4.5 liter diesel V8 idea. The rating is only at 350 HP, but the most important thing when it comes to real world driving is the 520 ft-lb torque--that's what you'll feel. And most of the time, peak horsepower will only be felt at the higher RPM's. Also, there will always be aftermarket parts to increase the horsepower rating. I've also heard that diesel engines are a lot more durable than regular, non-diesel engines. And I would gladly pay the extra price for diesel gas.

[firebirdcrazy]

Are you talking about a new camaro with a diesel? Or installing a diesel into one of the F body Camaros? The civilian Hummer 6.5 liter diesel engine would be an ideal candidate to drop into a camaro. That would be some project to try out if someone had the time to do it.

[trashman01]

Originally Posted by firebirdcrazy

Are you talking about a new camaro with a diesel? Or installing a diesel into one of the F body Camaros? The civilian Hummer 6.5 liter diesel engine would be an ideal candidate to drop into a camaro. That would be some project to try out if someone had the time to do it.

i hope ur talkin the H2 version as the H1 one only has 200hp and aint a real screamer

personally i say do it, cuz the aftermarket would explode, remember a programmer comes in 5 flavors from 30hp to 150hp and an extra 200-300lb ft. and nothing would be better then a ricer gettin lost in a cloud of soot

[9C1]

Sounds like a good idea to me. Again, HP doesnt matter as much as torque. HP is more like the force that makes your engine want to keep reving faster whereas torque is really what propels the car forward. The amount of crankshaft turning energy.

[Frosty]

A diesel motor in a Camaro, no matter how powerful it is, doesn't sound right. I don't know...if it'll help keep it around for a while then I guess it's a good thing but...it doesn't sound right lol

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by firebirdcrazy

Are you talking about a new camaro with a diesel? Or installing a diesel into one of the F body Camaros? The civilian Hummer 6.5 liter diesel engine would be an ideal candidate to drop into a camaro. That would be some project to try out if someone had the time to do it.

The 6.5 is a hunk of ****. The 6.6 Dmax Diesel that is in the H1 Alpha is a great engine. Problem is it is a very heavy, expensive, and large engine.
And im talking about in the new Camaro. The 4.5 and 2.9 are the only two diesel engines that would fit that are also currently in the stable. Teh 4.5 might be too tall though, but its a thought.

Originally Posted by trashman01

i hope ur talkin the H2 version as the H1 one only has 200hp and aint a real screamer

personally i say do it, cuz the aftermarket would explode, remember a programmer comes in 5 flavors from 30hp to 150hp and an extra 200-300lb ft. and nothing would be better then a ricer gettin lost in a cloud of soot

H2 does not have a diesel option, only gas. The standard H1 uses the old GM diesel.

Originally Posted by Frosty

A diesel motor in a Camaro, no matter how powerful it is, doesn't sound right. I don't know...if it'll help keep it around for a while then I guess it's a good thing but...it doesn't sound right lol

It could keep it around as well as be a big seller in Europe and Australia, where they are planning to put the car.

[Tru2Chevy]

Originally Posted by SteveR

Not a bad idea, but diesel prices are a lot more than gas.

Yea, but diesel motors get way better milage. My brother just bought an 05 Ram 3500 quad cab long bed with the Cummins....he averaged 22.8 mpg on the way home doing 80 mph on 295 for an hour. My Aunt's 05 Ram 1500 standard cab, long bed Hemi has gotten a best of 15.2 on the highway. Both trucks are 4x4 automatics.

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

The 6.5 is a hunk of ****. The 6.6 Dmax Diesel that is in the H1 Alpha is a great engine. Problem is it is a very heavy, expensive, and large engine.

The H1 Alpha only got the D-max for it's last year, every other H1 diesel sold by GM had the POS 6.5L.

- Justin

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I'd like to see one, but I don't know if I would personally get it.

[88Z-Man]

Call me old school or behind the times, but a sports car is not a sports car without a V8 gas engine. So no to the diesel.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by 88Z-Man

Call me old school or behind the times, but a sports car is not a sports car without a V8 gas engine. So no to the diesel.

Yeah...a little behind the times.

[mudjnky]

How about this one:
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/c...ing/index.html

Not a sports car, but equally impressive

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by 88Z-Man

Call me old school or behind the times, but a sports car is not a sports car without a V8 gas engine. So no to the diesel.

The Germans would have you think otherwise. And I'm talking about much more than the Audi posted above.

[Teds89IROC]

Tough choice. Diesels smell like **** and they don't sound good (compared to a V8 gas engine) On the other hand, better gas mileage while maintaining power are all a plus.

[bandit88]

i'd buy a camaro diesel...... gas milage FTW

[firebirdcrazy]

I used to fix these hummers in the USMC and it was only till 1998 that the the Hummer A1 as we called it was upgraded from 1 1/4 ton to the Hummer A2 2 1/4 ton with the 6.5 liter diesel allen and 4 speed overdrive tranny. And what a difference it was compared to the old 6.2 liter and 3 speed tranny with no park or overdrive. The difference in power and performance was incredible and the fuel economy depending on the tires and how it was driven reached 25 miles per gallon. Not bad for such a heavy truck. Put that engine in something half its weight and sleek you have one economical vehicle. And another reason for having a diesel engine you cant kill it. If well taken cared of you can get 250,000 miles no sweat.

[r0nin89]

6/8 cyl diesels are way too heavy for the front end of a performance car. A turbo 4cyl cummins makes enough power for a lightweight car.

Put a 6.5 diesel in a camaro and try to not do donuts all day.