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04-19-2007, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
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12 bolt 0r S60
I will be getting a new rear in a month or so,what should I get? Car is weekend use/ track car. Car is a 3 channel M6
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04-19-2007, 04:04 PM
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12 Second Club
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I like the Dana S60, but it seems some folks are having issues with them. 12 bolts are good if they are set up right.
If I could not do the Ford 9, I would go with the Dana S60 set up then.
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04-19-2007, 04:15 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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12 bolt. No reason to run an S60 in just about every case.
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04-19-2007, 04:16 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Millville, NJ
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I would go with the ford 9in but i wanna keep my abs. I've heard that 12 bolt don't last because of the torque arm on 93-02 Fbodys.
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04-19-2007, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by naSSty99ss
I would go with the ford 9in but i wanna keep my abs. I've heard that 12 bolt don't last because of the torque arm on 93-02 Fbodys.
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I have the same issue, 3 channel setup.. I think if you look @ ls1tech a place called Exotic has a Ford 9 3 channel set up.
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2002 Fbody Nats Elimination Winner
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2006 HP Pontiac Show n Go Elimination Winner
2006 NJFBOA Fbody vs Mustang Eliminaton Winner (Mrs. Bandit driver)
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04-26-2007, 11:14 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: East Brunswick, NJ
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I'm pushing 800HP through a Strange 12-bolt. Been in the car for 8 years. Spohn torque arm. Baxter ran close to 900HP through his Strange 12-bolt, with a Madman torque arm. 6K clutch dumps with a Street Twin and very sticky slicks, and it never missed a beat.
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1994 Formula - 381ci / 300-shot N2O / TH400 / Gear Vendor OD / Strange 12-bolt 4.11 - 11.5@117 on straight motor
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05-06-2007, 11:07 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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if you want to save money why not a ford 9" get any 3rd member from junk yard and some have detroit locker and a new housing is like 900
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05-07-2007, 11:07 PM
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I got a itchy trigger finger on placing an order for a 12 bolt right now ....
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05-07-2007, 11:56 PM
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try drivelinesolutions.com they have good 9inch setups. i got a 12bolt for weight reasons.
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05-08-2007, 05:03 PM
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I hear Bob @ exoticperformanceplus on ls1tech will have your answers
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12's on moda? One day
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05-16-2007, 04:30 PM
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I've had no problems with my 12 bolt.
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09-16-2007, 06:05 PM
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10 Second Club; Has fan club
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yo pete, its been over a month and you dont have your rear yet. you better get one before the 10 bolt dies
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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09-17-2007, 10:47 PM
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10 Second Club
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got a moser 12 bolt (60ft 1.30's) for 420 passes
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09-18-2007, 08:13 AM
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9 will take the most beating - Dana 60 will take the most power to operate and the 12 will take the least amount of power to run the car and as was said they work very well in a real race car our 9.30 super gas nova has had a 12 since 1990 it has broken twice - its a trans break car with stiff side wall super stock 14 32 tires - its like popping the clutch wheels in the air starts -jz
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09-25-2007, 09:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
I got a itchy trigger finger on placing an order for a 12 bolt right now ....
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hell yea me too and my car isnt even fast.
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87 iroc with the usual go fast stuff
heavier than your half ton.
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10-05-2007, 04:13 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: East Brunswick, NJ
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According to Evan Smith's article in National Dragster a few year ago - Drivetrain loss:
Dana 60 - 5%
GM 12-bolt - 7%
Ford 9-inch - 10%
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1994 Formula - 381ci / 300-shot N2O / TH400 / Gear Vendor OD / Strange 12-bolt 4.11 - 11.5@117 on straight motor
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10-05-2007, 06:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Injuneer
According to Evan Smith's article in National Dragster a few year ago - Drivetrain loss:
Dana 60 - 5%
GM 12-bolt - 7%
Ford 9-inch - 10%
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i thought it was a dana 44?
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10-06-2007, 12:26 AM
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13 Second Club / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Injuneer
According to Evan Smith's article in National Dragster a few year ago - Drivetrain loss:
Dana 60 - 5%
GM 12-bolt - 7%
Ford 9-inch - 10%
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no way! dana 60 is huge. theres no way it soaks up less power than a 12 bolt
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Quote:
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Except Jersey mike, great kid, but the way he looks at me makes me feel like im in danger
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10-06-2007, 02:18 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Union Beach, NJ
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it does take less power to operate, its all in the angles.
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10-07-2007, 07:41 PM
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The guy I bought my truck off of had a 9second nova. He showed me pictures of the thing doing 4 foot wheel stands. I asked him about the rear and he said it was a 12bolt. From the stories he told me they hold up to a beating.
I was actually quite suprised because tire size wise they are quite week for an offroading truck.
If you NEVER EVER EVER EVER want to worry about breaking anything get a full floating 14 bolt. Thats what us mudders use for strength  500lb's of strength.
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12-25-2007, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Moser does make a 3 Channel 9".
I am seriously considering a 3 channel custom 9" from a company called Midwest Chassis and Performance. They are now a sponsor on LS1tech. I have been talking to the owner, Eric, and it seems like an awesome deal. He includes many of the options that you would have to pay for on a Moser for free with his rear. Such as a drainplug, sway bar brackets, etc and his prices and very fair. His SN is ssvert99 on LS1tech.
Here's some pictures and information:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...110&highlight=
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...399&highlight=
Last edited by Grifter; 12-25-2007 at 11:23 AM.
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