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Old 07-26-2007, 11:15 PM   #1
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Sicko Healthcare card

Ok guys this was just released to the public at midnight and announced on the tonight show with jay leno. this is such a good idea that any health insurance that hears the name michael moore or sicko health car will give you health car coverage if they denied you treatment.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/wh...o/health-card/
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:47 AM   #2
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great more crap from this biased half truth telling fat ****
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Old 07-28-2007, 02:38 PM   #3
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great more crap from this biased half truth telling fat ****
No kidding. I wish Americans could visit Cuba easily to go see how great their healthcare system really is. Unless you're military or wealthy you're screwed.
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:42 PM   #4
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tony's right. most people praise canada but have never seen their actual healthcare system. it sucks. doctors have no reason to compete and therefore all suck. its a good theory, but sucks in practice
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:53 PM   #5
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tony's right. most people praise canada but have never seen their actual healthcare system. it sucks. doctors have no reason to compete and therefore all suck. its a good theory, but sucks in practice
kinda like communism
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:58 PM   #6
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Same with France. Everyone praises France's "free" healthcare. Yet taxes are out of control over there and they're $12 BILLION in the hole with a budget deficit due to their oh so great healthcare system. Yet we should adopt their form of healthcare.
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:21 PM   #7
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Some related reading for you...

Sick Propaganda
By PAUL OFFIT
July 13, 2007; WSJ Page A13

In Michael Moore's "Sicko," pharmaceutical companies are again demonized on the big screen. It's hardly the first time.

In "The Constant Gardener," a pharmaceutical company that also does pesticides makes an antibiotic that is highly effective against multidrug-resistant tuberculosis. When the antibiotic is found to have a fatal side effect, the company buries victims in a mass grave outside of town and kills others who know of the problem. In "The Fugitive," a pharmaceutical company hires a one-armed man to kill Richard Kimble when he finds out that its drug, nearing FDA approval, causes fatal liver damage. Neither the screenwriters nor the public considered these two scenarios to be implausible.

In "Sicko," Mr. Moore shows how citizens in Cuba pay pennies for medicines that cost hundreds of dollars in the United States, and how companies make drugs like Ambien to "dope up" citizens who now realize that the American dream is only a myth. He shows buildings bearing the logos of Pfizer, Merck and Eli Lilly: faceless, monolithic, and impenetrable. Mr. Moore never interviews anyone from these companies. "They already have their story out there," he has said. "It's called the nightly news."

Mr. Moore's choice not to talk to anyone from pharmaceutical companies was a loss for his viewers. During the past century the lifespan of Americans increased by 30 years, and almost all of that increase was due to one class of medical products: vaccines. Children today receive 14 different vaccines by the time they are two years old. Although most people don't know it, nine of those 14 vaccines -- which save about eight million lives a year -- were made by one man. And that man, Maurice Hilleman, spent much of his career at Merck. If he hadn't -- if he'd stayed in academia -- he would never have been able to convert his dedication and brilliance into the products that save our lives. When Mr. Moore talked about better health, it would have been nice to have seen Hilleman's image on the screen.

There is another image that Mr. Moore could have included. In 2006, a vaccine to prevent rotavirus was licensed by the Food and Drug Administration. Rotavirus, a disease of young children that causes vomiting, high fever, diarrhea and dehydration, kills 2,000 children in the developing world every day and causes a great deal of suffering in the developed world. Penny Heaton of Merck was the pharmaceutical company executive who headed the program.

At the end of a pre-licensure study that took four years to complete, included 70,000 children and cost about $350 million, Dr. Heaton called together 200 people at her company. (As a co-inventor of the vaccine, I was present at this meeting.) She started with a series of slides. "This is what the world looks like now," she said, pointing to a map that contained hundreds of small black dots concentrated in Asia, Africa, and Latin America. "Each of these dots represents 1,000 deaths a year from rotavirus." Then Dr. Heaton showed a map without any black dots. "Now," she said, pointing to the clean map, "we have the technology in hand to eliminate deaths from this disease."

Then she wept. She stood in front of 200 people with her head down and her shoulders shaking. This isn't an image that anyone has of a pharmaceutical executive. The rotavirus vaccine is now available in Mali, Ghana, Vietnam, Bangladesh and Nicaragua.

Mr. Moore could have framed the real problems with pharmaceutical companies by asking the right questions. How can we eliminate marketing practices that unduly influence clinicians by providing unethical incentives? Does direct-to-consumer advertising mislead the public by creating the notion of magic medicines without side effects? Do we benefit from companies developing yet another hair-loss or potency product while diseases with a much smaller market go ignored? Can the federal government become the sole purchaser of drugs without eliminating the profit that drives companies to make them? And does society benefit from the tax that is included in the price of every drug because of massive litigation?

But Mr. Moore yielded to the zeitgeist, vilifying companies and their lobbyists in an easy, populist act that failed to educate his viewers.

Dr. Offit is chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, co-inventor of a rotavirus vaccine, and the author of the just-published "Vaccinated: One Man's Quest to Defeat the World's Deadliest Diseases" (Smithsonian Books).
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:42 PM   #8
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F**k Michael Moore...he is someone who gives independent film makers a bad name...
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:49 AM   #9
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My grandfather got kick *** healthcare in Australia
although it was a flying doctor (small aircraft to/from hospital)
he was diagnosed with lung cancer and all the treatment/transport was free

dual citizenship FTW
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