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09-10-2007, 12:27 PM
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Winter Project 1 - Exhaust
Beginning the winter project planning. I’m starting with the exhaust since Pypes has some nice GP buys this month. Plus these are the basic designs, so other systems (torque tech, custom/cobbled together) would be similar in nature. This is for the 77.
Exhaust choices:
Option 1:
Pypes SGF11 - 2.5” "Rear-Exit" System w/ X-pipe
• 16 gauge, mandrel-bent, 409 stainless steel pipe
• Street or Race-Pro mufflers
• Factory fit tailpipes, cad plated clamps and stainless hangers.
Option 1a:
Same as above with this crazy x-pipe, simply for the cool factor, of course. All the cool kids have cutouts.

And look at those flames LOL
Option 2:
Pypes Crossflow setup

• True 'straight thru' flow path. There is absolutely no loss of flow thru the muffler.
• Driveshaft tunnel X crossover kit for maximum ground clearance even on lowered vehicles.
I plan on using this one for the 67, so worst case scenario is I could take it out of the 77 and put it in the 67 and do something else in the 77. Appears to be same kit, although I have to confirm that.....
The added ground clearance is very enticing. Just looking for thoughts. The temporary turn downs have to go. LOL
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
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09-10-2007, 01:31 PM
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Dick Hammer
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Crossflow set up with your lowered car , then you can bring the nose down.When you get the 17's it will be even lower. More ground clearance.
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09-10-2007, 03:04 PM
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NJFBOA Co-Founder
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i still say tailpipes look goofy on second gens.
headers, 3" - 2.5" reducers, x-crossover, magnaflow or similar mufflers, turn downs in front of the rear axle.
clean, simple, inexpensive. save the money for the 6spd swap or an engine with some serious snot.
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09-10-2007, 03:43 PM
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The car will have tail pipes. Not an option. Go redneck your own car, LOL
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-10-2007, 03:47 PM
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NJFBOA Co-Founder
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why would i do that when i can spend your money?
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09-10-2007, 03:50 PM
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Tailpipes are cheap. As is the black paint to paint them.
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-10-2007, 04:14 PM
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scott, you should see if you can do the gp, and then pick the parts up at the swap meet and save on shipping....could carry em over to my spot untill it closed for the night and then pull your car in and take them home
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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09-10-2007, 04:20 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbrrmike
scott, you should see if you can do the gp, and then pick the parts up at the swap meet and save on shipping....could carry em over to my spot untill it closed for the night and then pull your car in and take them home
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If I remember correctly, PYPES is in Hatfield PA- not that far for a pickup.
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09-10-2007, 04:52 PM
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Good thought Mike (and Bill).
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-10-2007, 05:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Good thought Mike (and Bill).
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and hope they don't forget to put it in the trailer before they head up there .....
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09-10-2007, 07:42 PM
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BadMod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
and hope they don't forget to put it in the trailer before they head up there ..... 
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you honestly dont think their trailer wont be full of f-body exhausts? even if they dont have the one he paid for, they will have the model
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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09-10-2007, 07:43 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbrrmike
you honestly dont think their trailer wont be full of f-body exhausts? even if they dont have the one he paid for, they will have the model
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ah, that is a very good point you bring up there ...
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09-10-2007, 07:58 PM
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BadMod
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that second pic he posted, they had one assembled sitting on a rack last april (my spots in april were 20 feet from the pypes truck)
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So much stupid, so little time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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09-10-2007, 09:52 PM
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I will beat you with a toaster!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
The car will have tail pipes. Not an option. Go redneck your own car, LOL
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Yeah, so I guess just leave the good sounding exhaust to us rednecks
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09-10-2007, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bad64chevelle
Yeah, so I guess just leave the good sounding exhaust to us rednecks 
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Yes.
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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09-11-2007, 09:41 AM
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I will beat you with a toaster!
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09-12-2007, 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
i still say tailpipes look goofy on second gens.
headers, 3" - 2.5" reducers, x-crossover, magnaflow or similar mufflers, turn downs in front of the rear axle.
clean, simple, inexpensive. save the money for the 6spd swap or an engine with some serious snot. 
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You know you like the turndowns, how much less work were they?
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09-12-2007, 03:47 PM
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I've never liked the sound of any of the pypes mufflers that I've heard......get the tubes from them, and then pick up some spintech mufflers!
- Justin
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09-16-2007, 09:20 AM
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Banned Camp Director Emeritus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
I've never liked the sound of any of the pypes mufflers that I've heard......get the tubes from them, and then pick up some spintech mufflers!
- Justin
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and 1 more smart ass answer by you and i'm going to reach into this monitor and grab you by the throat
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10-09-2007, 12:15 PM
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For the record, I want to bottom of my car to resemble this:
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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10-09-2007, 01:12 PM
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That's a sick suspension with some serious tire, a great suspension, and a T56. Why doesn't that car have a driveshaft safety loop??????????????
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10-09-2007, 02:22 PM
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Admin.
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That is a lateral dynamics 3 link, IIRC. The x-pipe would work for a loop, no? LOL
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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10-09-2007, 02:38 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
That is a lateral dynamics 3 link, IIRC. The x-pipe would work for a loop, no? LOL
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Hah. Nope! Driveshaft loops also protect the floor of the car LOL
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10-09-2007, 02:45 PM
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Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
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That suspension looks BA. Too bad they didnt use mandrel bends on the tubes.
Is that the first gen you showed me the engine compartment to? Penny or something like that?
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10-09-2007, 04:53 PM
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Admin.
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Yes
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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