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				watch out for those honduh civics
			 
 
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			dont be biased, post ones for american cars too.
		 
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					Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva  It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts. |  |  
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			^ can't remember one where the wheels fall off   
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			my trailblazer had one because they forgot to put all the brackets in the front bumper.
		 
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					Originally Posted by cbrrmike  dont be biased, post ones for american cars too. |  such as exploding firestone tires, or the one on my dad's 99 f150 that could catch fire just sitting in the driveway????
		 
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					Originally Posted by cbrrmike  dont be biased, post ones for american cars too. |  i get a weekly summary from consumer reports.  if they'd report it, i'd throw it up here.  unfortunately, it seems that the asians are taking quite a beating in the news lately.  which suits me fine, since america needs a wakeup call about supporting our economy.
		 
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			can we please not get into the whole economy thing again. the only thing that has become clear is that no one has a single definition of what "supporting the american economy" actually means. besides, that "asian" car you are ripping on is built in England.
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					Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER  can we please not get into the whole economy thing again. the only thing that has become clear is that no one has a single definition of what "supporting the american economy" actually means. besides, that "asian" car you are ripping on is built in England.
 |  actually, i think we were quite clear on what supporting our economy means.  it's what makes up an american car these days that is the gray area.  one thing that has remained clear, however, is that honduh is owned by the japanese.  at the end of the day, the money goes back there.  it doesn't matter where the car is built.
		 
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					Originally Posted by ryanfx  ^ can't remember one where the wheels fall off   |  where does it say the wheels fall off? it doesnt.
 
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					Originally Posted by GP99GT  where does it say the wheels fall off? it doesnt. |  
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					Originally Posted by GP99GT  where does it say the wheels fall off? it doesnt. 
ls1 piston slap   |  They still run dont they? They still last up into the high miles dont they?
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 and...sure they run like that, lots of cars can and will....that doesnt make it normal
 
 edit: their wheels came off cause theyre canadians, nobody likes them
 
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					Originally Posted by jims69camaro  , however, is that honduh is owned by the japanese.  at the end of the day, the money goes back there.  it doesn't matter where the car is built. |  once again....honda money goes to the men and women that OWN or own stock in honda, not to the country of japan
 
domestic car money goes to the men and women and the shareholders of the companys, NOT TO AMERICA
 
so how does padding rich peoples pockets support our economy?
 
buying a car with an import nameplate that was built here has the company paying AMERICAN workers, AMERICAN taxes and pays americans when a machine breaks down.....then  these american workers leave work, and shop in american stores and pay more taxes, and go back to their american homes and pay those taxes...........
 
that supports the economy more than all these domestic nameplates that sit in a board room in america but oversee all their OUTSOURCED operations that pay foreign workers, foreign taxes and other fees, and than collect the money that they save by not paying americans and line their pockets and buy all their imported suits, fashions, and other things rich people like
 
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					Originally Posted by ryanfx  ^ can't remember one where the wheels fall off   |  My friend was driving his cougar, at the time, and his wheel came off at 70mph. 
 
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		|  09-17-2007, 08:33 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by GP99GT  edit: their wheels came off cause theyre canadians, nobody likes them |  
Maybe the asians wanted to take out the canadians????     
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			Weren't the front end on the Ford GTs falling right out? MY boss was talkign about it and to actually get the recall work done they had to come with flat beds and pick the car up, they wouldn't let you drive the car to the dealer.
		 
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					Originally Posted by jims69camaro    it doesn't matter where the car is built. |  
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			how do recalls work? do manufacturers do it willingly or does the highway association crap make them recall a car they find to be defective? it doesn't make sense that a car company would willingly drop that much money to lose money in repairs. but then again i'm an idiot.
		 
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			it depends on the percentage of vehicles that have the same problem, a certain percent gets a tsb, a higher percent or a safety issue, and it gets a recall
		 
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					Originally Posted by qwikz28  how do recalls work? do manufacturers do it willingly or does the highway association crap make them recall a car they find to be defective? it doesn't make sense that a car company would willingly drop that much money to lose money in repairs. but then again i'm an idiot. |  
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			Wow....drop the word "Honda" in this place and.....  
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					Originally Posted by Firebird67dude  Weren't the front end on the Ford GTs falling right out? MY boss was talkign about it and to actually get the recall work done they had to come with flat beds and pick the car up, they wouldn't let you drive the car to the dealer. |  They made a manufacturing error in the upper and lower front control arms that led to some of them fracturing. Ford also knew that the owners of these cars drive them hard, hence the flatbed deal.
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					Originally Posted by cbrrmike  so correct me   |  i can't.  you're pretty much all over it.  if the men and women who own stock in the japanese-marqueed car live in japan, then the money goes back to japan, where the japanese will buy their own products and services, which helps out their economy, not ours.  the trade equilibrium is in chaos, i agree.
 
what sticklers for details you guys are.
 
my point is, and always has been, that we should be bolstering our own economy by "buying american".  it's not so easy these days to find the "made in USA" label, i concede that, but if you do search it out then you are paying american workers, american fabrication shops and factories, and helping the worker pay his taxes - which is a whole 'nother can of worms.  i feel better when i can put my money down on an american product.  it doesn't matter what it is.
 
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O RLY? 
 
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