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			i want to take the power steering pump out i want to know if anyone has one or know where i can get one my car is a 92 camaro rs
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-26-2007, 08:18 PM
			
			
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			The early S10 pickup Manual steering box is a bolt-in for the 3rd gen F-car. Not sure what pitman arm you use, but I know it fits.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-26-2007, 09:40 PM
			
			
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			You would probably use the 3rd gen pitman arm. 
 
Why would you want to take PS out?  I guess you are not running large front tires.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-26-2007, 09:46 PM
			
			
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			i want to take out the the ac and pollution pump bracket but the belt tension pulley is on there what can i do to keep the belt tensioner and get rid of whats left of that  ugly bracket
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-26-2007, 09:48 PM
			
			
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			Change to v belts.  You'll hate manual steering.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read. 
 
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold.  I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors. 
 
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			10-26-2007, 09:50 PM
			
			
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			thats what i might do or i can cut the bracket  to make it look halfway decent
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-27-2007, 05:17 PM
			
			
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			The early S-10 manual box with the 3rd gen pitman arm fits great. That's what I have on my car.  
One belt around the crank, water pump, and alternator...no other useless accessories to drive    
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ps - Scott, if Liz can drive her Fiero just fine with manual steering, I think anybody can drive a 3rd gen with it just fine.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				The early S-10 manual box with the 3rd gen pitman arm fits great. That's what I have on my car.  
One belt around the crank, water pump, and alternator...no other useless accessories to drive    
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ps - Scott, if Liz can drive her Fiero just fine with manual steering, I think anybody can drive a 3rd gen with it just fine.  
			
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 i agree with you justin i had no power steering in my 80 camaro it worked perfectly
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			manual steering imo is good for a drag car not a street/ strip car. Especially if you like taking corners...etc.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			10-28-2007, 12:21 AM
			
			
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				The early S-10 manual box with the 3rd gen pitman arm fits great. That's what I have on my car.  
One belt around the crank, water pump, and alternator...no other useless accessories to drive    
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ps - Scott, if Liz can drive her Fiero just fine with manual steering, I think anybody can drive a 3rd gen with it just fine.  
			
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 Apples & oranges - weight, suspension design, tire size, etc.  Thrown some 245s or more in the front of a 3rd gen and try to parallel park.  Not fun.  IIRC the 3rd gen has more of a scrub radius issue which would make it worse.  
 
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have you driven your car with the manual box Justin? didnt think so.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-28-2007, 05:48 AM
			
			
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			S10 box with the 3rd gen arm fits right in...not too bad to drive and turn with skinnies, big street tires will be hard at slow speed
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Change to v belts.  You'll hate manual steering. 
			
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 the S10 box has enough gain in it that other than turning the wheel further you will hardly notice any difference.  
4cyl S10's are in junk yards every where and you can usually get them for under 20 bucks. just swap on your 3rd gen f-body pitman arm and you are good to go. 
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			10-28-2007, 05:23 PM
			
			
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				have you driven your car with the manual box Justin? didnt think so.    
			
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 No, but I hardly had any trouble steering the car while it was being pushed at ~3 mph, so it would only get easier as speed increases. I also had 245s on it at the time with only 15-20 psi in them.
 
But besides that, I was only referencing the fitment in my post, not the way it drove.
 
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			10-28-2007, 05:28 PM
			
			
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			its easy to steer a car without power steering while the car is moveing when you have to parell park its a b
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-28-2007, 07:03 PM
			
			
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			Manual steeing ain't bad. Over time people have gotten lazy and have to have power everything. Plus if ya ain't got the guns to handle manny steering it can be a beyotch.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-28-2007, 07:44 PM
			
			
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				Manual steeing ain't bad. Over time people have gotten lazy and have to have power everything. Plus if ya ain't got the guns to handle manny steering it can be a beyotch.    
			
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